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Misc I.V Valium, I.V Tramadol ...

Retrospect

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.Please no bashing. I know this is a terrible idea, with pretty much not much of a benefot. I know this very well and how terrible of an idea this is. It really is stupid, I honestly know that. I have been without Suboxone for 3 days or more, and havent IVd anything since either. I'm not feeling too hott.. to say the least.. and I know my best and most effective bet is to take these orally or even crush the valium and let it dissolve under my tongue (yuck) , but honestly, at this point in time, I have a bit of a needle fixation.. && im proud to go this long as it is.. but this is going to happen, as stupid and dangerous as I knoww it is, so please help me on preparation. Im feel proud I havent dissolved my clonidine yet or destroy my veins with welbutrin.
So please be understanding. I know this is terrible, I know the risks, its a terrible idea, im being honest, I want to inject, it will happen tonight and this what I have till Thursday..
I love you guys and im not usually like this. Sweating. Legs wont stop. No sleep. Rough day guys.
So like I said.. I have tramadol and valium..
I have nail polish remover.. && thats about it.
Can I use this? Please walk me thru it if so.
 
.Please no bashing. I know this is a terrible idea, with pretty much not much of a benefot. I know this very well and how terrible of an idea this is. It really is stupid, I honestly know that. I have been without Suboxone for 3 days or more, and havent IVd anything since either. I'm not feeling too hott.. to say the least.. and I know my best and most effective bet is to take these orally or even crush the valium and let it dissolve under my tongue (yuck) , but honestly, at this point in time, I have a bit of a needle fixation.. && im proud to go this long as it is.. but this is going to happen, as stupid and dangerous as I knoww it is, so please help me on preparation. Im feel proud I havent dissolved my clonidine yet or destroy my veins with welbutrin.
So please be understanding. I know this is terrible, I know the risks, its a terrible idea, im being honest, I want to inject, it will happen tonight and this what I have till Thursday..
I love you guys and im not usually like this. Sweating. Legs wont stop. No sleep. Rough day guys.
So like I said.. I have tramadol and valium..
I have nail polish remover.. && thats about it.
Can I use this? Please walk me thru it if so.

The diazepam isn't very water soluble unfortunately, so you'll have a hard time getting it in the rig without drawing up the entire pill.

The tramadol would be easier. Do you have the 50mg caps with powder inside, or solid tablets? What brand is the medicine? That will help me give you better advice.
 
Why not just IV some water?

And what does nail polish have to do with anything?
 
Thank you.
Regular 50mg tabs.58/tv pill i.d
Tramadol.
Rough go today. Thank you.

Okay looks like they're manufactured by Teva.

I can give quite a few good reasons why this is a horsesh*t idea. Please think carefully before doing this man.

1.) The valium isn't very water soluble so it will be incredibly difficult to actually get it into solution to put it into your veins. You'd pretty much have to inject the powder of the crushed pill as it floats around in the water, which would be hideous, and probably kill you. Even if it didn't you'd get barely any higher than if you took it sublingually.

2.) The tramadol is more water soluble, but so are plenty of the fillers and binders in the tramadol pill too. You're gunning for some pretty serious damage trying to bang these two pills.

3.) Damage aside, think abut what you'd gain. Buprenorphine blocks the effects of other opiates pretty damn well. Take me for example. Normally 0.2 grams of heroin gets me feeling nice, but tonight after taking a 4mg subutex, I had to shoot 0.8grams to feel high. I got no rush, and it just sort of crept up on me,and only lasted for about an hours time at the most. Tramadol's opiate effects are caused by one of its active metabolites called o-desmethyltramadol. How is that weak o-desmethyltramadol going to beat buprenorphine at binding to the receptor sites? You will feel nothing from taking tramadol, regardless of how you administer it. Actually, you may feel some of its SNRI effects but on their own they are actually quite unpleasant. Most of the good effects of tramadol come from the opiate component, which you won't feel.

Please don't try to shoot these pills. I have a needle fixation too, and I normally shoot citric acid or vitamin C (or crack cocaine) when I haven't got any heroin. I'm also on subutex and I know how it feels to still be craving that high that we're supposed to be quitting. In the UK we have to mix our heroin with an acid to make it water soluble, so I tend to inject the acidic water to at least emulate the taste of an IV shot coming up the back of my throat. It helps to satiate that desire for a shot.

So, once again: PLEASE don't try to shoot those pills. As you've seen, backed up by facts: you won't gain anything from it. Take the pills orally and inject some sterile water or something if you must. Your veins, capillaries, lungs and heart valves will thank you for it. I'm serious, it's dangerous.

I hope you make the right choice man, i'm worried about you. Please check in and let us know how you're doing.

Niksput
 
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You can plug them both if you want the quickest ROA while still having healthy veins, lungs, and cardiovascular system... just don't plug more than 250mg tramadol in a day.

Also, since the diazepam acts so quickly, give sublingual diazepam a try.
 
Niksput, Thank you veryy much for your thoughts, research, and input! Taking the time to respond, understanding, and just your overall help, without any pun intended, means a lot man. Thanks, I greatly appreciate it.

I took the Valium sublingually, && swallowed the tramadol. As well as a clonidine.
&& then I was soo sick, realizing how much my mind was made up, convinced that I was going to do this regardless, I got frustrated realizing how bad this was all effecting me and my mentality, so frusttated with myself, I even broke the tip off my last rig.
I, however, did get a new one..lol.. but no plans to use it at the moment.

I really appreciate everyones advice, thoughts and input. I greatly appreciate it. I was in rough shape. I am currently 25 years old, with a beautiful girl, the mother of our handsome 4 year old boy. She did nothing for the first 4-5 years we were together.. besides occasional Extacy woth me (See 'Gs Up Hoes down' trip report of mine, very detailed, amazing).. She watched me battle addiction fo many years. I caused her soo much pain, that I wish I could take back. Eventually, a month before my son was born, I checkd into rehab amd emded up being on meyhadone for 3 yrs. 110mg. Well that was its own demon, and I still didnt quite find myself, realize what I had and as sad as it is to say, realize how inlove i truly was with her.. I ended up cheating.. That crushed her the worstt.. && it crushed me too, just comfirmed even more how deeply I loved her.. well, at the emd of 11', we broke up for the firstt time in 5 years. It crushed us both. && this girl who did nothing, went from doing nothing to i.v dilaudid with airl "friend" of hers. She got locked in.. i developed a hatred towards drugs.. detoxed of methadone.. was totally clean besides herb, 6 months. I couldnt stand what I just seen happen. This beautifulll, I mean amazing, smart girl, so unconditionally devoted to me, after everuthing i put her thru.. it killed me. Well when we got back together May of 2012, she was on suboxone. I noticed signs here n there of needle use.. two weeks in, we were doing so amazomg.. but i sat her down to talk and ask her about this. She was honest with me amd told me about iv 'ing her sub. I was dumb founded, didnt even know you could.. well got curious.. figured one good night with my girl... turned into every few days, every day. Plus she emded up on fove different scripts a month, welbute 150 and 300s, vyvanse 60s, addy 30s, plus suboxone amd occasional other jumk.. all ibd. It got bad. We both wanted to be clean nut just couldnt get it together, together. I felt if I didnt do something, i wouldnt make it much further.. Mu life was a mess. So i decided in oct 2013, that okay, i would leave, go detox and come back so she could go detox, amd i can take care of our boy (who is very healthy and well taken care of, honestly!), handle everything while shes gone or in bed. Well, two weeks clean into novber, she wasmt ready, didnt meam meet me in the middle.. and I couldnt put myself back there, in that lifestyle. She wemt a differemt path, i t crushed me. Afterall i was doing this for my son and family as well as myself. So when i figured that out, that it wasnt happening with her right now.. i saod fuck it, whays wrong with literallyy a mg or two of sub a day if its gonna help me right now?? A lot beyyer then two strips plus all the other scripts amd shi got with money.. so i started back up w that but limited it. Mg or two. Thats usually it. Ots really a sad story and now, shes just not the same girl. Ive changed my ways, have never cheated since, i would neverrr hurt her, but she is full of negativity and he lifestyle, for my sake, i cant live it.. we are still commited.. as far as i can tell anyways.. she never has cheated on me.. i would post a pic of us.. if acceptible.. but we are still living seperately. I did howver just had my son, my handsome lil man for a little over a week amd when i broight him home, i came home to a noce clean home, and my sexy lady waiting, wanting me to stay a couple nights. A couple nights turned into 5, we did do some ampetamine, regular sub, and it was amaxing. Amazingg week with my fami. I could tell changes were being made.. but i made the decision to leave after 5 nights because i knew it was for the best right now. Work on ourselves, get stable, do things like this for now.. reunite in spring..
It's reallyy hard and honestly, thats kind of the "short" version of my story. Iy has been really hard these last couple years. 7 years, this girl has been myy girl. The mother of my son. She could do much better, if only based on looks alone, she really is beautiful, but to add in her personaloty.. shes a keeper.. but right now, stuck in a vicious cycle and very muh with a negative mind frame. When she is ready, she knows the resources are there for her and I support her 110, like she did me.. and for my family, I would do anything. Everyone gets to it at their own pace i gues

Thank you all very much again for your support and feedback!! I finally snapped out of it.

&& tommyboy, I was thinking nail police remover with the acetone, proplyene glycol(sp? ) or what not may be of some use or what not, where non water soluble, etc. I wasnt sure if it could be of use. Either way, those are the choices I made, thanks to the advice and input, stubborness and mentality awaken. Boy i was frustrated..lol. 2013 sure was a rough year.

Thanks again everyone,
- Retrospect
 
Hey there, I am still a little confused and I am curious, what was it you were thinking that the nail polish removed with acetone and the "proplyene glycol" might possibly be useful for? I cant even imagine so I am really curious where you were going with that.. (not being a smart ass or trying to give you a hard time or anything..really just curious)
 
Damn, I took orally a diazepam 10mg/2ml ampoule the other day cause I didn't had my stash with me and was in about week 2 of bupe withdrawal.....let me tell you I understand you'll do it anyway but it's a terrible idea, since you don't have ampoules you might as well shoot it with clonidine, I worked at a psychiatric facility and we always applied diazepam ampoules via IM, IV benzos are used in anesthesia or really strong cases of psychosis, and it generally is Midazolam not Diazpam that burns like a MF on the propylene glycol it comes dissolved in.....I also have experience with tramadol ampoules 50mg/1ml, NOT WORTH IT, especially if you don't have ampoules.....also better suited for IM use, they are used by nurses for minor injuries when Nubain won't suffice, no rush or anything, I ued to get them from work and breok the ampoules and mied them with a beverage and drank away.....I really tell you you are much better off taking the tramadol, diazepam and clonidine (and throw some lope) orally, and IVing water or damn something small and water soluble.....bt really you'll regret IVing those pillos, take them orally, save the suffering, damn IV ethanol if you must but even with a micron filter it's a terrible idea, damn the diazepam pills weigh around 100mg and only have 10mg of active content that ain'y water soluble, I used to IV lormetazepam,midazolam, zolpidem and some other rare ons I'm forgetting, always filtered and still regret0 the abcess I got to this day, luckily I got treated right away.....and my hygiene and technique were spot on....I just had loads of access and was bored and suicidal/with self esteem issues...not sayin don9orally't do drugs, I know I couldn't live without them....but there's no need to punish yourself that way when the Oral Bioavailabilty of those drugs is so high and they help on Bupe W/D.....damn gon and score some shitty coke/crack and shoot that after takig the other shit orally if you really need to feel an IV rush.....but keep the tramadol dose low due to increased seizure risks, also if you could get clonazepam to do before te tramadol that's always good....really hope you get better, been there know how it feels to not give a fuck what pill you're gonna shoot next...if you are on that road try toget back on bupe ASAP....though you are prolly banging it.....but try to get ampoules/good asian pharmaceutical drugs of the internet/befriend people in the medical community....really those binders even with micron filterin/g will fuck you up in the long run and your mindframe will likely not be the same 10years from now.... Damn I hate alcohol, but just get drunk instead.....how many mg of tramadol were you planning on IVing? I remember I had this bodybuilder friend ages ago that used to IM it with his anabolics/steroids.....them tramadol ampoules were really popular in the bodybuilder scene in the late 90s/early 00s, but once again all IM use, no IV
 
You can plug them both if you want the quickest ROA while still having healthy veins, lungs, and cardiovascular system... just don't plug more than 250mg tramadol in a day.

Also, since the diazepam acts so quickly, give sublingual diazepam a try.

This^

Why would u want to IV tramadol? I agree with tommy just shoot some water if u really need a needle in you that bad , plug the tramadol, and put the Valium under your tongue.
 
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