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*I.V.* 5-MeO-DMT - First time with this MOA, experienced with drug - Eek!

Jamshyd

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[Disclaimer: What I did here is very, VERY stupid and potentially extremely dangerous. I do not recommend anyone trying it!!]

I was lying in bed at around 6:30pm, just resting, and waiting for 7:15pm to roll by so I can take the bus to go for a drink with a friend. Nothing out of the ordinary. Then, it hit me.

I got up, washed my hands, and gathered all equipment necessary for I.V. injection. I used a (cleaned) contact lens canister to dissolve a tiny bit of brownish 5-MeO-DMT (estimated to be 2-3mg) in about 50 units of Saline solution. It dissolved effortlessly. I then took a cotton from the tip of a cotton swab, rolled it as tightly as I could, dropped it into the solution and pulled in with a 30unit syringe. I intentionally used more drug and more water because I knew that some of it will be lost in the process. The solution in the syringe was crystal clear, but I still dried the canister and cleaned it with an alcohol swab, re-injected the solution in it, used a new cotton ball and re-drew it, just in case. Again, the solution was crystal clear and had only one small bubble that I tapped off easily. I then recapped the 28G needle.

I put a pillow against the wall I was leaning on to make myself more comfortable. I did not have anything useful for a tourniquet, and even if I did I just couldn’t see myself being able to undo it while keeping the needle steady where it is once I register. So, the tourniquet was skipped. My veins were visible but not bulging. I cleaned my inner-elbow with an alcohol swab. After only three probes (much better than the 11 I needed for my first I.V. experiment!), I was able to “feel” that I was in a vein, and as I pulled back surely enough blood flowed into my solution. This is it!

I pushed the plunger and took out the needle and re-capped it, and cleaned the site (hardly visible) with an alcohol swab. At this point, I felt nothing. I thought, “hehe, I guess the amount of drug I actually got was negligible.” The moment I finished this thought, I went instantly from sober to THOROUGHLY FUKTUP!

There was a huge rush. But you see the rush happened after I got instantly hit – as in, after the huge instant shift, I was still climbing. There was the characteristic 5-MeO-DMT tinnitus. There was a constant, sharp tingling rush that went from my solar plexus to the crown of my head. This was in every way like smoking, but without the physiological reactions such as crazy heartbeat and sweating and pressure in the head (that feeling of implosion). The only way I can describe what I felt is that it was IDENTICAL in every way to the MDMA rush (with all the anxiety associated with it), and I mean identical, but without the euphoria and nystagmus.

For a few seconds, I was immobilized. I was definitely NOT enjoying it. My vision blurred. Space and time lost all meaning – everything seemed to be the same size. It is hard to explain this phenomenon but that’s exactly how I perceived the world. I decided this was too strange so I closed my eyes. I didn’t see much – I perceived what looked like fire at the edges of my visual field. I also did not hear anything but the sharp ringing in my ears.
As I reopened my eyes, I was still buzzing, but the rush was gone, and now I was able to actually think again. I looked at my arms and found that all the veins in my body were bulging. This scared me a bit, though I suspect that it probably had a vasoconstrictive property. I was quickly returning to baseline, a bit shaken, and feeling very stupid at what I just did, since I really do not have much experience with I.V. administration. I looked at my watch to see that it was just after 7:00pm. This meant that the whole experience should not have lasted more than 5 mins. I checked my arms again, my veins were still bulging but not as much. The puncture wound seemed to have already healed, as I could not easily see it.

I went out to wait for the bus. I found that, although I was pretty much baseline, there was a lingering anxiety coupled with slight mood elevation (funny eh?), and that my senses were all very heightened. The sparkling of the snow against the moonlight was very overwhelming. By the time I was on the bus my veins were no longer bulging, so I figured I was fine. The night was enjoyable at the bar, and beer tasted great, and it dissolved all anxiety that I had.

I think this is my goodbye to 5-MeO-DMT. The only time I ever found it useful was when I mixed it with cannabis, and it was the cannabis that did most of the job. Taking it in vein is the ultimate way of experiencing it purely, and I still did not find the effect to be very enlightening. The whole thing in itself was an interesting experience, but I would not repeat it.


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I really don't recommend this to anyone. If you like 5-MeO-DMT, stick to smoking, much more convenient and MUCH safer. If you MUST, try to use a micron filter. I have no access to those. I was also careless with the dosage, 1mg being quoted as powerful in TiHKAL, but then I had tried smoking 20mg with not much effect, so I knew I would be able to take a high dose of this material. YMMV.
 
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im gonna leave iv for a while thanks for the report although it didn't sound too great. DMT might be better,

peace
 
This is the only psychedelic I have any interest in IVing. Very interesting report. Too bad you do not find this entheogen useful. I feel blessed that 5-MeO-DMT has been so wonderful with me.

PS, Syringe filters are easy to find. Try a simple google. I pay under $2USD for each.
 
Sounds fucking intense man. I'd never try that now thanks. I was surprised to hear that you didn't find it enjoyable, when smoked cos I'd heard it was like MDA which I really enjoy. Anyway nice report, keep em coming.
 
LOL when u told me this @ the bar I almost fell off my chair. Interesting report man. Although that rush sounds like it would feel great I dont think that 5-meo-dmt is something that I'll be trying in the near future however.
 
Interesting report, Jamshyd... you're braver than me that's for sure. I don't think I'll ever use needles... eek 8o

So you injected 2-3mg you say? Could you compare the intensity (approximately) of this IV dosage to a smoked dosage? How many mg did it feel like if you had smoked it?

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john
 
Jamshyd, I can't remember if you've smoked N,N-DMT before? If so I'm interested in your comparison. I'm still digesting my own foray into freebase DMT (trip report coming soon) and well, for me anyway, it made 5-meo-dmt seem like useless crack-like garbage.
 
Thanks for the input, everyone :)

To answer questions:

Victor: I have yet to try DMT, but when I do, I actually would like to give it a shot (no pun) with I.V. if I was able to obtain a purified product and micron filters. I have personally always found 5-MeO-DMT (at least on its own) to be, as you describe it, "useless crack-like garbage." I am very aware that many people find it useful. See my general notes below..

John: Yep, thats what I was saving what little 5-MeO-DMT I had for ;). I can very easily say that 2-3mg I.V. was about as intense as 25mg smoked. If I were to make a dosage conversion (for me at least) would be 1mg I.V = 10mg smoked.

Likuidkid: Yep, its not everyday that I inject 5-MeO-DMT then go out for a drink. lol.

Yeasutom: I have thought a lot about that and I figured this is one of the major risks in this experment. But when I found that it dissolved so readily in water, I thought that it wouldn't make much of a difference. The idea is to have the drug dissolve in water, correct? Btw, I apologize for not replying to your message... will do soon!

MGS: Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it seems like they are all sold in bulk so I'd have to find someone to perhaps split the order with or something like that...

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I am getting the impression that 5-MeO-DMT brings about a state of mind that only some people find useful. I found it interesting how the majority of people who like 5-MeO-DMT also appreciate MDMA and Psilocybin (the opposite being true for those who don't). I have found one thing in common with all three compounds: They put me in a thoroughly dysfunctional state of mind. I guess thats what people call "mindfuck." I personally cannot do anything productive (psychologically/spiritually) in such a state, as opposed to what I call the "clarity" of such compounds as LSD, DPT, 2C-D and Ketamine.

I am really not a McKenna fan but I do see his point in calling 5-MeO-DMT "the Power" (as paired with DMT being "the glort"). The experience has something very incapacitating, very martial (in the astrological sense), and very "Giburic" (in the Qabalistic sense) about it. Interestingly enough, McKenna praises mushrooms too.

I do not regret the experience at all...
 
nice one, IVing research chems is unexplored territory. i would love to attempt it at one time, if i finally order some RC's :)
 
wow, crazy report, but bit risky for my liking,.
though if i could get 5-MeO-DMT here in new zealand i wouldnt mind smoking it.
cheers for the read man, play safe

peace.
 
A friend of mine has IVed 5-MeO-DMT before.. he said that it was essentially just like vaporizing it, but without the 'lung local anaesthesia' and with less of a bodily presence (if breakthrough 5-MeO can be said to have a 'bodily' presence as opposed to an out-of-bodily presence; I think he meant that it felt like there were less elephants than usual sitting on him ;) ), more of a cleaner 5-MeO head trip. He came out of the space, laughed his balls off for about 20 minutes, and then highly recommended it. Of course, both my friend and I find that 5-MeO-DMT is perhaps the deepest space we have ever worked with, I only wish you could experience this compound in the way we do.. DMT seems to unlock the metainformation for this universe, whereas 5-MeO-DMT seems to unlock the metainformation for all possible side-real universes. 5-MeO and DMT at the same time is INTENSE...

Be warned, the guy who did this can casually eat 1200mcg of acid and go to restaurants... YMMV!
 
this report is tempting me to try I.V'ing dmt I extracted from wattle bark....dunno what dosage would be good in IV though, maybe start with 60mg (it aint pure dmt crystals so hell).

but yeah....would love to experience I.V psyches in general.

Peace Out

Dirty_DEED
 
the "clarity" of some psychedelic spaces as opposed to others

wow, amazing report.
very brave and not something i am planning to do.

I am going to start a thread in PD regarding your statement on the "clarity" of certain spaces. :)
 
I wouldn't try injecting bark extract DMT in any form.... its far too unpure. Atleast 5-meo-dmt is still available as a pure compound from certain locations. :)
 
I don't see why not...it's just alkaloid crystals with around about 55-60% dmty purity the rest being other non active alkaloids. Sif I would inject it if it was just resin style extract :S....

Peace Out
 
as for the dosage...once again, these crystals I extracted are not pure dmt, so 60mg of it is about 30mg anyway.. takes about 200mg (little under) in freebase to breakthrough on it (for me anyway)
 
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