I have to make this happen

[Sickandtired3]

Hey everyone,
I'm currently in the embryo stage of my sobriety. I'm no stranger to withdrawals or detoxing, I have danced with the devil many times. I'm just a few days into d-tox. While all is going as good as I could expect, insomnia and RLS are issued I am fighting.
One big concern I have is that I may be building a loperamide addiction. I had used it on and off for WD's and really never gave it much thought because I would always go back to my DOC, so now being over what should be the worst of WD's I quit taking the lope and 24-36 hrs I jump rite back into WD's. If I take lope again they disappear. To be clear I'm detoxing off OP's and hydrocodone.
In the past when doing it 3-4 days and physical symptoms were fading fast. Now that I have used lope it's different. I was taking 10 2 mg lopes = 20 mgs twice a day. It made my wds a lot easier but now I'm scared.

I don't want to endure methadone type WD's for weeks. Been there done that. I have read about lope wds but I never took big amounts <snip>

My sobriety is so important to me this time and for the first time in my life I'm ready to do this for me. Can anyone help with info on this. I'm tapering the lope but I didn't think it was gonna ba an issue. Maybe I'm tied to this long term until I can taper this to not endure the WD's ????? Help

 

[neversickanymore]

I saw a post buy smimmingdancer awhile back that stated that the loperamide does cross the blood brain barrier all buy itself but is metabolized really fast. Based on that, Yeah Swim packs some serious grey matter I think, as well as the people kicking Im following, the ones that relied on nothing that was narcotic, including loperamide, made it out of the woods much much faster. I know it sucks nut you can do this.. Hang in there So much bullshit to leave behind and so much good stuff to get to.. your awesome don't let the addiction tell you are not.. it likes to blather all kinds of nonsense.. yep it lies all the time

On the edit I just snipped that info out to protect others that it may have given info or triggered.. allot of people taking that, because of where they are, are really vulnerable.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Also there are opioid receptors outside of your brain, this is a huge part of why loperamide helps with withdrawal symptoms. Are you having trouble reducing your loperamide dose or only if you stop taking it abruptly?

If you are just a few days into detoxing from the oxy + hydrocodone and using lope I wouldn't worry about it, you aren't going to have long-term methadone-style withdrawals from that. I would just try to only use as little lope as you can handle and to not use it for very long, and do a quick taper to get off it rather that stopping suddenly.

The withdrawals you are experiencing when you don't take the lope are likely mainly still just oxy/hydro WDs that the lope was covering, since it's only been a few days since you quit the oxy/hydro. It's normal for WDs to get more severe and last longer the longer you have been taking opioids/the more times you've been through WD, so just because you felt your WDs improved after 3-4 days in the past doesn't mean that the lope is the sole thing making them improve less quickly this time.

But it is possible for lope to delay your recovery, since it is an opioid, so I'd say don't be too freaked out but also don't take the lope too long or in too high of doses. One thing I've learned from detoxing is that trying to make it painless can hold us back because we can end up taking drugs to alleviate or mask the WD longer or in higher doses than we should, and it becomes like ripping off a bandaid - the slower you do it the more painful it is.

 

[brutus]

Keep in mind that no matter how much you taper, you will have to eventually pay the piper and go through withdrawals.

 

[soundsystem00]

Just kick. That's what I'd do. I'd throw all the loperamide away and just kick.

You may suffer for a few days, 1 week tops, but at least it would be over for good after that.

I don't really like the idea of tapering and stuff. I did a suboxone taper down to a tiny amount and still felt like shit for 1 month.

It's just delaying the enenvitable.