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I have never used MDMA or LSD. I want to candyflip.

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Let me introduce my past. I'm from Ukraine and I think you can already call me an old junkie. It so happened that during my youth, the culture of drugs in our country was not as developed as, for example, in the USA or Europe. Our culture stood on three pillars: "black", "white" and marijuana. Without a doubt, ecstasy, LSD and others began to appear in the capital and other large cities in the mid-90s, but for most drug users only the substances named above were available. And I am one of them. Let me explain. "Black" is anhydrous raw opium. "White" is methamphetamine. Or rather, a crude methamphetamine solution. Anyone who knows about the reduction reaction of ephedrine with red phosphorus will understand what kind of solution we are talking about.
It was with this solution that I happened to get acquainted in 2001. And this solution is my faithful companion to this day with different frequency of consumption. I make the solution myself and it always has the same effect on me (this is a reference to the post by the respected Le Junk “What is wrong with the MDMA available today?”, which will be discussed below).

What I want:
As I already said I have never used MDMA or LSD.
I have a friend - a young girl, a real club diva in a leopard jumpsuit, who is well versed in modern club culture. She will become a real guide to this world for me. We want to experience the candyflip experience at a cool techno fest that will soon take place in one of our clubs. My friend has experience with Ecstasy and some LSD, but again, we've both never had candyflip. Our drug market features brown MDMA crystals and various ecstasy pills. I opted for crystals. Also on the market are LSD: Vertigo(220ug), Nexus(165ug), Brainstorm(100ug), which I don't understand at all. Seller advises taking MDMA at a ratio of 1.5 mg per 1 kg of weight and LSD ⅓ brand for beginners. About a year ago I took too many fly agaric and experienced a real bad trip that tore my mind for 16 hours, I'm not afraid that I will experience even close to this from 50 or 100ug of LSD.

And now about the sad.
Thanks to the topic that Le Junk raised, I understand very well that the magic is most likely gone((. I am also fully aware that I am breaking the main rule, intending to mix substances that were previously unfamiliar to me (thanks to Traced for the recommendations in the topic https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/candyflipping-timing-dosing-redosing.912639/).

I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations.

P.S. Maybe I shouldn't start?
 
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There's a thread here about was your first time experienced lsd.

My one was a candy flip in a club. Worst experience of my life.

Some people freak out with lsd on it's own already.

Try lsd a few times on it's own as nznity suggest the same with mdma before combing the two.
 
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

but I also agree that doing both drugs at once before doing either alone is really asking for a pretty big freak out episode and bad time

plus, it's pretty damn important that you know they are LSD and pure MDMA themselves... combining 2 knock off RCs like that would write a disaster story
 
Gotta go with here concensus and advise candyflip is a bad idea when inexperienced with either drug, let alone both.

If you really must, then a sensible yet very effective dose schedule would be 100ug lsd, followed around 4 hours later by 125mg mdma - no redose.

As opposed to @F.U.B.A.R. 's recommendation, I'd honestly say if you were only gonna take one to try the lsd. 100ug is unlikely to be toooo intense, even for a noob. Maybe. It's also unlikely to actually be 100ug unless you chance on some Gamma Goblin or Dr. Seuss synths. .

I'm only really saying that cos the 'mdma' you are likely to get will be the infamous meh-dma and so probably unsatisfactory. Best practice is to get to know the individual drus separately in a much more controllable environment first

Whatever you do, get the drugs tested first if at all possible. Bear in mind however that even if the mdma tests pure, it's highly unlikely to have the same effect profile as the miracle drug from the 90's you've read all about
 
T-1000 said:
Let me introduce my past. I'm from Ukraine and I think you can already call me an old junkie. It so happened that during my youth, the culture of drugs in our country was not as developed as, for example, in the USA or Europe. Our culture stood on three pillars: "black", "white" and marijuana. Without a doubt, ecstasy, LSD and others began to appear in the capital and other large cities in the mid-90s, but for most drug users only the substances named above were available. And I am one of them. Let me explain. "Black" is anhydrous raw opium. "White" is methamphetamine. Or rather, a crude methamphetamine solution. Anyone who knows about the reduction reaction of ephedrine with red phosphorus will understand what kind of solution we are talking about.
It was with this solution that I happened to get acquainted in 2001. And this solution is my faithful companion to this day with different frequency of consumption. I make the solution myself and it always has the same effect on me (this is a reference to the post by the respected Le Junk “What is wrong with the MDMA available today?”, which will be discussed below).

What I want:
Aa I already saidI have never used MDMA or LSD.
I have a friend - a young girl, a real club diva in a leopard jumpsuit, who is well versed in modern club culture. She will become a real guide to this world for me. We want to experience the candyflip experience at a cool techno fest that will soon take place in one of our clubs. My friend has experience with Ecstasy and some LSD, but again, we've both never had candyflip. Our drug market features brown MDMA crystals and various ecstasy pills. I opted for crystals. Also on the market are LSD: Vertigo(220ug), Nexus(165ug), Brainstorm(100ug), which I don't understand at all. Seller advises taking MDMA at a ratio of 1.5 mg per 1 kg of weight and LSD ⅓ brand for beginners. About a year ago I took too many fly agaric and experienced a real bad trip that tore my mind for 16 hours, I'm not afraid that I will experience even close to this from 50 or 100ug of LSD.

And now about the sad.
Thanks to the topic that Le Junk raised, I understand very well that the magic is most likely gone((. I am also fully aware that I am breaking the main rule, intending to mix substances that were previously unfamiliar to me (thanks to Traced for the recommendations in the topic https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/candyflipping-timing-dosing-redosing.912639/).

I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations.

P.S. Maybe I shouldn't start?
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Take the LSD that claims it is 200ug with your friend in a non-club or not at a rave, but at home. You can always listen to any music you want, walk outside, and enjoy nature. Do not drive and bear in mind that LSD lasts for 12 hours.

The LSD is probably not going to be as high as 200ug but test it to be certain it is not a research chemical.

What is the drug scene like in Russia and other Eastern European countries? Is it true most METH is made in Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia, and Hungary?
 
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Take the LSD that claims it is 200ug with your friend in a non-club or not at a rave, but at home. You can always listen to any music you want, walk outside, and enjoy nature. Do not drive and bear in mind that LSD lasts for 12 hours.

The LSD is probably not going to be as high as 200ug but test it to be certain it is not a research chemical.

What is the drug scene like in Russia and other Eastern European countries? Is it true most METH is made in Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia, and Hungary?
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Can't speak for METH in general. I think METH that is sold in Ukraine is produced here. The situation with drugs in Ukraine can be described in one word - SALT. SALT - this is alpha pvp / pyrovaleron, shit that takes away hope and gives only pain and despair in return. These substances dominate our market. 50-60% of young people sit on this. And it's really scary.
 
Like everyone says, try one or the other first. If you really want to candyflip, then do it just with your friend and no more than one or two other people who you both know very well. Don't have your first time with LSD be in public. MDMA on its own should be fine at a festival.

Start with one tab of LSD and ~100-120mg of MDMA. Get both tested or do it yourself with some reagent kits. Your dealers probably don't know what's really in those, and you don't want to have your first experience with LSD be NBOMe or your first experience with MDMA be meth/a cathinone/etc.

Hope you have a beautiful experience with whichever substance(s) you decide to try at the festival!
 
I agree with everyone else who has posted here. Mixing two untested substances that you have no experience with is dangerous. If one or the other (or even both) are not what they are supposed to be, you could end up dead. No joke.

Pick one to try first with your leopard jumpsuit friend. I think you would be ok with a low dose of LSD at a rave, but it could be intense. Ideally, you would try each one in a safer and more controlled environment first.

Mixing them together for the first time in public sounds like a recipe for disaster.
 
I've never even taken MDMA before but I've 'rolled' on similar substances... can't say I'd even wana try a Candy Flip even after hundreds of LSD/mushroom trips. Maybe if I'd tried MDMA.

I guess I'm saying, it sounds a bit intense for a first trip. A club setting? Two new drugs? One of which is known to tear down and rebuild your ego? Ehhhhhh sounds rough.
 
I would stick with just the MDMA. Especially since you're planning to go out in public.

People get "e-tarded" from MDMA anyway. Flipping is an extra special kind of hyper-e-tardedness.

It's like you took twice the psychedelic and twice the MDMA.

I've been rolling for 19 years off and on and I haven't even been out in public flipping yet myself. It's different. It's also really powerful.

I'm not saying don't try it, but like everyone else here I highly suggest trying LSD and MDMA separately before you try them together.

I will say I haven't ever candyflipped. I have only hippy flipped and BOD flipped.

The good thing about flipping in my experience is that when your roll kicks in your trip will be a-ok. The roll make all your cares disappear.
 
Still in the Ukraine?
Where abouts?
Did you take the LSD, MDMA or both?
What’s the drug scene like now?

Stay safe and good luck!
 
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