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Tryptamines I don't take psychedelics, I AM psychedelic..

Ismene2

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Have any long-term trippers found the psychedelic version of themselves becomes more and more a part of their ordinary sober character? More good humoured, gentle, forgiving etc? Does it seem to benefit the most positive parts of your character?

Or are you the same pathetic bastard you always were?
 
Have any long-term trippers found the psychedelic version of themselves becomes more and more a part of their ordinary sober character? More good humoured, gentle, forgiving etc? Does it seem to benefit the most positive parts of your character?

Or are you the same pathetic bastard you always were?
I feel pretty much the same after most drugs wear off. Some of them have a nice afterglow but I wouldn't say any made me a better person. Maybe some have made me psychotic.
 
I've certainly noticed positive personality changes occur in myself and others as a result of extended psychedelic use, not to the point of binge consumption and tolerance formation, but specifically I mean being tactful of tolerance and mindful of integration after the trip.


The more intense the headspace of a drug is, the more it has this effect it seems. low doses of N-benzylated phenethylamines or 2C-B, amphetamine, and methamphetamine don't do much for this, whereas higher doses of 2C-B/DOM/DOB/DOC, moderate-to-higher doses of N-benzylated phenethylamines, and any doses of tryptamines and/or lysergamides will absolutely induce this.
 
Psychedelics are a key that allows us to enter a realm where we see things differently, but we as individuals must put in effort to change. It opens a door; but we must walk through it.
Psychedelics do not change us; they show us what we can become; we must be the change.
Well stated! I often speak on them as being "catalysts of change, that one can choose to use if they so desire", but I also feel like a side effect of psychedelics is the drive to use them in this way, if that makes sense.
 
Honestly, I often have doubts if the way I engage with psychedelics really is all that positive. Yes, they facilitated some changes and I'm grateful for my experiences, but I wouldn't say they changed me entirely. They certainly helped me in a period of depression, however maybe I would have never dugged myself into this state without drugs (and psychedelics are the reason why I became interested in drugs in the first place). Where can I sign up for getting to know the results of my control group version?

Shulgin and his friends seem like good people. But not, crucially, like the best people. Shulgin himself – by his own admission, based on facts that he himself presents in his own autobiography – is consistently kind of a jerk to his wife (and his wife kind of agrees). He gets depressed and ornery a lot, sometimes to the point where it seriously interferes with his work and relationships. His circle of friends seems to have some problems with marital infidelity and random drama, and he tells one story about a distant friend-of-a-friend obsessed with LSD who seems to be an outright con man. I’m not saying they’re bad people; quite the opposite, the book makes them seem very human and if I lived in the same time and place as them I would be delighted to have the opportunity to know them. But they seem, well, about as good or bad as any other set of intelligent, creative people. It’s not clear that their psychedelic use – and man, do these people use psychedelics – has made them morally or spiritually exceptional. It’s hard to shake the thought that these people would be relatively nice and interesting artists and scientists with a little bit of marital infidelity and personal drama even if they’d never taken anything stronger than Tylenol.

Regardless, I still like those compounds and will continue to use them :)
 
Honestly, I often have doubts if the way I engage with psychedelics really is all that positive. Yes, they facilitated some changes and I'm grateful for my experiences, but I wouldn't say they changed me entirely. They certainly helped me in a period of depression, however maybe I would have never dugged myself into this state without drugs (and psychedelics are the reason why I became interested in drugs in the first place). Where can I sign up for getting to know the results of my control group version?



Regardless, I still like those compounds and will continue to use them :)
Love seeing PiHKAL brought up on BL, wish it happened more tbh. I can only speak on my own experience and those of who I know closely, but psychedelics have done a lot of harm reduction that I think we'd never notice. The amount of nights spent connecting with my fiance, or with close friends over LSD or psilocin instead of alcohol, oxycodone, or amphetamine, that alone must have reduced some capacity for harm. The amount of nerve damage that mushrooms have healed also cannot be overstated for me, I've been able to feel my hands and feet for almost 4 years now after a 7 year period of not being able to due to surgical issues. I learned more about myself and became a significantly less violent, hate-driven person as a result of ayahuasca, which I haven't touched now in a year or two, I don't feel a need to right now. Before then I was much more prone to ending conflicts with randos in the city I lived in through violence, after the brew I was more of the type to deescalate instead of brutalize if that makes sense.

Overall, I love the person I am now tremendously more than who I was, and I can solely attribute that to the fact that I had two things going for me:
  • A willingness to use a tool that acts like a decompiler, or a computer running Kali Linux, something that allows me to decompile, analyze, and rewrite the code that I function with. Maybe I just hold this perspective due to having a background in software engineering/cybersecurity, idk.
  • Access to psychedelics in a virtually unlimited capacity, thanks to ayahuasca, mescaline and fungi being of low cost to produce, and LSD/2C-B saturating the globe via DNMs.
 
I don't think I was ever a pathetic bastard, hahaha, hawever, psychedelics make me feel like I am more myself than I am in a quotidian ordinary in-between psychedelic day.
today I am in between, however, and the sun is shining, and there is excitement in the air, and that is pretty psychedelic as well.
 
Without real problems it probably make my sober character improve.
sadly it declines faster then a psychedelic can bring it up.

In solo sessions, now a LSD therapie, that might help.
Just found out they are officially doing illegal 1p-LSD therapy in NL.
Which is contradicting, using a 'not for human consumption' analogue,
in a medical setting. So i mailed them as its kinda weird.

Using a RC during calling it a official LSD [1p] therapie,
which it isn t off course. Its grey area, leaning to illegal medical practice imo.
And you pay as it not covered by insurance, so tricky. And pricey too.
But a good well set session would benefit me i believe.

So a official LSD medical University Hospital one,
would have my preference.
 
I don't think I was ever a pathetic bastard, hahaha, hawever, psychedelics make me feel like I am more myself than I am in a quotidian ordinary in-between psychedelic day.
today I am in between, however, and the sun is shining, and there is excitement in the air, and that is pretty psychedelic as well.
a good time to you then (not having been (and not being)) a pathetic bastard 🙂
 
a good time to you then (not having been (and not being)) a pathetic bastard 🙂
I guess as a child I could see that people insulting others were in a conflicted state, and I learned not to believe them if they insulted me. Instead I would back off and wait for them to go away one way or another.
 
It’s crazy but only when I started using amanita muscaria very regularly did I really start to bring out my “psychedelic” self into light. After over 20 years of using all
Other types of psychedelics.

it does something very subtle and internal
 
Have any long-term trippers found the psychedelic version of themselves becomes more and more a part of their ordinary sober character? More good humoured, gentle, forgiving etc? Does it seem to benefit the most positive parts of your character?

Or are you the same pathetic bastard you always were?
Ordinary people can change their entire identity because of an emotional experience. Send someone down dozens and dozens of hardcore trips and its bound to effect them.

Parallel to trauma in a way. IMO It just 'stains' your brain, although I don't like the negative connotation of 'stain,' nevertheless its some form of change.
 
Ordinary people can change their entire identity because of an emotional experience. Send someone down dozens and dozens of hardcore trips and its bound to effect them.

Parallel to trauma in a way. IMO It just 'stains' your brain, although I don't like the negative connotation of 'stain,' nevertheless its some form of change.
I used to use the term "acid stained" to refer to to the way I would cultivate HPPD to try to feel like I'm on LSD all day every day. The term "cultivated HPPD" is what I settled on using though.
 
I used to use the term "acid stained" to refer to to the way I would cultivate HPPD to try to feel like I'm on LSD all day every day. The term "cultivated HPPD" is what I settled on using though.
This is funny to read to me. I mean, the way you engage with the psychedelics, of course there is no doubt that you'd probably end up with HPPD, live with it, even enjoy it. But to "cultivate" it, that's a new one :D

Needless to say this is all far removed from safer use and harm reduction, but I had a week where I tripped a lot on phenethylamines (probably just breakfast for most people here) and got curious whether I could induce HPPD by going for another round of highdose tripping. Went so far that text was moving a little bit funny and had some new colours surrounding it, but I chickened out. Took a break for a few weeks and decided not to fuck around and find out too much.
 
This is funny to read to me. I mean, the way you engage with the psychedelics, of course there is no doubt that you'd probably end up with HPPD, live with it, even enjoy it. But to "cultivate" it, that's a new one :D
I always say that if I could be on 150-400ug of LSD every single day, I absolutely would. Daily dosing 2C-B is as close as I could get, but it lacks the headspace effects that LSD has, which is really the biggest motivation for my desire to use LSD daily without tolerance, if such a thing were to ever be possible. It would be worthwhile to further specify the "cultivation" aspect of HPPD, but if I notice my HPPD starting to fade, I'll starting taking higher doses and at a higher frequency to get it to come back. Whatever the most recent 5-10 trips were are what "flavors" the HPPD. Doing phenethylamines will give the HPPD characteristics of those phenethylamines, lysergamides and tryptamines are much more similar to themselves than they are to phenethylamines but I can still distinguish the Lysergamide from Tryptamine "flavors" of HPPD, if that makes sense. Depression, focus, concentration, and overall happiness are all signficantly higher and my lifestyle overall excels with this whole cultivated HPPD thing, and I just try to keep the visuals absent enough to drive if I haven't consumed cannabis, but even a couple hits of a joint or a little bit of tincture throws me right back into a psychedelic headspace, which I absolutely adore. Having cannabis as a sort of triggering mechanism for this cultivated HPPD is integral in balancing it with life, in my opinion.
 
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