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I don't like Japanese animation

MyDoorsAreOpen

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I don't understand what's so great about Japanese animation. And this is coming from somebody who's lived in Japan and studied the language, and is currently surrounded (in China) by people who adore it.

First of all, I find that the facial expressions are very stereotyped. I'm aware that Japanese animators are aiming for emotional and attitudinal verisimilitude when they draw faces, rather than photographic verisimilitude. For example, I understand that the eyes of a character we're supposed to sympathize with are disproportionally huge because kindness and openness is often communicated by easy-to-notice eyes that have a twinkle in them, even in real life.
However, there must be SOME other way to show yelling besides a giant red mouth that fills the entire face. And I'm sorry, but a halo of sweat drops and a grille of teeth that fills 2/3 of the face isn't the only way to show stress or frustration. Likewise, I don't associate anger with holding one's arms tightly at one's side and bouncing up and down with a little springy sound.

I find plot is more important to Japanese animators than artistic innovation. But even most of the plots don't hold me! Most of them are so sentimental you can smell the nacho cheese a mile away. Then in the next scene, they're gratuitously violent enough to make Mel Gibson cringe. The point of every plot seems to be that if you put your metaphorical balls to the wall ("ganbare", in Japanese), you can accomplish anything, and teamwork never fails to save the day. Oh, and the earth is a sacred treasure that we mustn't wreck, just in case you didn't know. Even Disney switches up their sermons a bit more than this. I've seen few of the deeper levels you'll find in French or Russian animation.

Don't even get me started in erotic anime. Are real live women really that scarce and really that boring?!
 
so I take it you have never seen Spirited Away, Princess Monoke and Akira? Cartoons are easy to make and of course there are going to be people who just want to make a buck and make shit. I think its really cool how studio Ghibli makes animated paintings that blow my mind every time, take me to a place I never knew existed... in myself. So do yourself a favor and check out those 2st 2 movies and if you like them check out the 3rd one.
 
and is currently surrounded (in China) by people who adore it.

Maybe that's your problem. I knew a guy who was totally into horror movies at uni and this was the exposure I got to them. Thing is, he was into all these obscure films that to someone who wasn't obsessed were actually, shit. (ref puppet master 1-7).

Like the good Dr says above, check out some Studio Ghibli, especially Princess Mononoke and then have a rethink :)


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you know I always thought the character animation in Akira was woefully inadequate.

As for anime in general, I find it funny that a style that was developed out of a lack of money to buy more than a few different tubes of paint, and disinterest in demanding cell animation has become so popular.

FA is right, though, Princess Mononoke is great. I want more tree spirits, and fewer giggling japanese women, though. Thats one archetype I can do without. If they don't get penetrated by another pink haired, hermaphroditic anime girl, they need to keep quiet.
 
I absolutely LOVE anime graphics and still pictures ...

anime in TV and film format is totally boring and poorly done in my opinion. Akira is kinda a classic though.
 
people are always so quick to mention akira, but i bet most people are still completely mindfucked by it. it's a bit hard to condence a 7 volume manga into a 2 hour movie

btw, for great anime, try Perfect Blue or Cowboy Bebop
 
preacha said:
people are always so quick to mention akira, but i bet most people are still completely mindfucked by it. it's a bit hard to condence a 7 volume manga into a 2 hour movie

btw, for great anime, try Perfect Blue or Cowboy Bebop

perfect blue? come on, thats not really well written, and sicne its not drawn, I think I'd rather just watch silence or the lambs, or a law and order, or something

(do'nt know why I picked those)
 
the only anime cartoons i adore are little mermaid, SEA Prince and the FIRE CHILD, SWAN LAKE , and CandyCandy. Ancient i know...but BREATHTAKINGLY beautiful cartoons that i watched over and over again (in betamax format yet!) I dont have my own copies (still looking.....) but i can remember all the details as if i had watched them only yesterday. Especially that haunting song in Little Mermaid....the ORIGINAL little mermaid that stayed faithful to the fairytale. Broke my heart too....
 
Dr. Funkenstien said:
never been a fan of Bebop. I don't think it will appeal to MyDoorsAreOpen either. The Bebop movie was cool but the series sucks IMO.

i think just the opposite. i thought the movie was crap and the series was cool.

akira is great, but definatly not the movie to get someone attracted to anime.

when it comes down to it though, everyone has different tastes...some people don't (and never will) like anime...it is simple as that...
 
i'm sure if i would have been exposed to it younger, i could appreciate anime a bit more... some of my friends have massive collections of imports and the like, i just never got into it. every once in a while i watch something like graveyard for fireflies or princess mononoke which is distinctly different from the majority of anime out there and i really enjoy it, but i just can't get into superpower/cyborg/pre-pubescent girl/cutesy animal/ninja fare. i should also mention that i rarely enjoy science ficition or fantasy films, regardless of whether or not they're animated... so that might have something to do with my bias against anime as those themes are pretty prevalent.
 
i'm with you - nothing like having someone tell you they like japanese movies when in fact they meant they like cartoons.

i mean, some of the stuff is ok and i have enjoyed it from time to time, but i couldn't see myself actually trying to find more to watch.
 
Originally posted by Dr. Funkenstien
If I could watch the Bebop series back to back, commercial free then I might be able to get into it. I like to have closure.


while there are threads running through the series, most of the bebop episodes are in themselves self-contained stories - how many did you see?

alasdair
 
in which case, it seems weird that you would enjoy one of the movie or the series (in your case the movie) but not both. whatever, thanks for your comments.

alasdair
 
I hate Japanese animation.

I just can't stand it at all. I think the peoples faces and overall expressions are just dumb.
 
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