So swim for long time has been experimenting with all sorts of different techniques to make the new endo formulation of opana useful because SWIM has a large supply. SWIM sure so many of you are aware how difficult these things have been. Previously SWIM posted about how if one powderizes the pill with a pedipaws and then cut with 1 to 1 with baking soda it is pretty effective once snorted and doesn't gel that much at all. That method was working pretty damn well. SWIM also posted about how you can put the powder in a small circle and broil it for 5 minutes and then freeze it, finishing by chopping it up and then bumping it (which SWIM knows the mods don't like because it involves heating the pill which SWIM totaly gets), and that seemed to also work well, but not as well as aforementioned in SWIMs opinion.
WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS.
SWIM read about a clinical study where 40 mg of opana ER (didn't indicate which version, study was done years ago so the original would be assumed) was adimisted with 240ml of 40% alcohol (about 4 shots), and this had the effect of changing the bioavailiabity by an average in the test group of 70%. 70% is almost double the insuffelation bio at 40%.
So SWIM extrapolated that understanding between moreso the oxymorphone itsel and alcohol, the version of the tablet not really being the 'important' part of the study neccessarily. SWIM had previoiusly read about this, and tried experimenting by powderizing the tablet, drinking about 4 shots, and then parachuting the powder. This SEEMED to improve the strength of the pill, but not enough for SWIM to be satisfied.
SOOOO this week SWIMs friend was running low on their dilauded script, REALLLLLY low, almost nothing, and was depending exclusively on the new opanas which generally suck compared to old ones which were easily abused, or more easily anyway. So out of desperation SWIM ran one last experiment, one last approach at making these things work well insisting on the belief it could be done.
this is the method
1. Powderize tablet with pedipaws or dremel (pedipaws can be had from a petco for 10 to 20 bucks, much cheaper then a dremel a lot of the time), make sure the tablet is held at 7 o'clock so it shoots straight down on to the foil, magazine paper, parchment paper, whatever is being used (preferably something dark colored or atleast discernable from the powder and doesnt stick to powder in anyway, aforementioned materials all work well).
2. Get some alcohol atleast 40 percent strong (stronger alcohol could definitely be used, but stronger alcohol means greater potentiation so USE YOUR HEAD, this method is with the 40 percent, SWIM used smirnoff) and pour about half a shot, maybe a little less if SWIM knows they can't stomach alcohol well, NO LESS THAN A QUARTER SHOT.
3. Pour powder into alcohol in a way wear SWIM attempts to dissperse it evenly into the cup, not really super important but I made sure to do it that way always bearing surface area in mind.
4. NOW IT WILL GEL, BUT ITS OKAY. Allow the cup to sit as long as SWIM can, a half hour is sufficient, an hour is a lot better, as long as SWIM can wait. Agitate the solution with a fork every now and then, and try to rip up the strands of powder that form and make sure you scrape the bottom real well as the powder will settle with time.
5. Drink the solution. Now, its become kind of gelly, quite nasty. SOME of someone who is you guys will be able to drink it straight with a good coke or other soda to chase it with (the texture is very prone to cause a gag reflex), SOME will definitely not. SWIM found snapple to be superb in neutralizing the gag reflex. Make sure when you add the snapple you drink it quick, as it is my belief the longer any liqud sits with this powder in it the more gelly it becomes. Someone who isn't you could also pour half into another cup, add snaple, down quick, chase with soda, come back 10 minutes later and do the other half the same way. USE someone who isn't you's judgement on how strong your stomach is. This stuff is lke robitussin level 3 LMAO.
6. Pour soda into any and all cups used, swishing around, and drinking that. Do it atleast twice for any any and all cups used.
7. Drink an additional 1-3 shots, NO MORE UNLESS SOMEONE WHO ISNT YOU HAS A MEGAA TOLERANCE AND IS DAMN SURE, depending on your dose and tolerance.
*****Someone who isn't you can pace them selves with the last shot, in fact somewho SWIM knows who used this was withdrawing badly and used a 20mg tablet and only used the initial alocohol and no futher drinks and went from feeling like shit to feeling GOOOOD. This person was taking the 20mg as is and not getting much relief previously. Also this person only had a medium tolerance and generally doesn't abuse their med in anyway i.e. snorting, shooting, plugging. This could also be done with the new generics, but most will probably just snort those bc its so easy. This could also be done with original formulation. Bare in mind everyones level of potentiation will differ, so use someone who isnt you's head, be smart. SWIM strongly suggests only drinking 1 additional shot after the inital drink and waiting a full hour before deciding to drink anymore although SWIM does have a hunch theres a window of about 20 minutes after the initial drink for potentiation to reallly occur, ALTHOUGH THAT IS NOT TO SAY ITS SAFE AFTER AN HOUR TO START FOOLISHLY BINGE DRINKING! This is a great method because you don't have to use heat, and don't risk damaging your nose with residue from using the pedipaws or a dremel.
This DEFINITELY works, and seems to work betting than snorting the old formula maybe even I kid you not. SWIM has tried so many different methods to make these work better and this is hands, bar none, THE BEST, method there is in SWIMS opinion. SWIM truly feels this way. SWIM appreciates your comments and would LOVE to hear other people experiences using this. Use caution!
WELL HERE IT IS FOLKS.
SWIM read about a clinical study where 40 mg of opana ER (didn't indicate which version, study was done years ago so the original would be assumed) was adimisted with 240ml of 40% alcohol (about 4 shots), and this had the effect of changing the bioavailiabity by an average in the test group of 70%. 70% is almost double the insuffelation bio at 40%.
So SWIM extrapolated that understanding between moreso the oxymorphone itsel and alcohol, the version of the tablet not really being the 'important' part of the study neccessarily. SWIM had previoiusly read about this, and tried experimenting by powderizing the tablet, drinking about 4 shots, and then parachuting the powder. This SEEMED to improve the strength of the pill, but not enough for SWIM to be satisfied.
SOOOO this week SWIMs friend was running low on their dilauded script, REALLLLLY low, almost nothing, and was depending exclusively on the new opanas which generally suck compared to old ones which were easily abused, or more easily anyway. So out of desperation SWIM ran one last experiment, one last approach at making these things work well insisting on the belief it could be done.
this is the method
1. Powderize tablet with pedipaws or dremel (pedipaws can be had from a petco for 10 to 20 bucks, much cheaper then a dremel a lot of the time), make sure the tablet is held at 7 o'clock so it shoots straight down on to the foil, magazine paper, parchment paper, whatever is being used (preferably something dark colored or atleast discernable from the powder and doesnt stick to powder in anyway, aforementioned materials all work well).
2. Get some alcohol atleast 40 percent strong (stronger alcohol could definitely be used, but stronger alcohol means greater potentiation so USE YOUR HEAD, this method is with the 40 percent, SWIM used smirnoff) and pour about half a shot, maybe a little less if SWIM knows they can't stomach alcohol well, NO LESS THAN A QUARTER SHOT.
3. Pour powder into alcohol in a way wear SWIM attempts to dissperse it evenly into the cup, not really super important but I made sure to do it that way always bearing surface area in mind.
4. NOW IT WILL GEL, BUT ITS OKAY. Allow the cup to sit as long as SWIM can, a half hour is sufficient, an hour is a lot better, as long as SWIM can wait. Agitate the solution with a fork every now and then, and try to rip up the strands of powder that form and make sure you scrape the bottom real well as the powder will settle with time.
5. Drink the solution. Now, its become kind of gelly, quite nasty. SOME of someone who is you guys will be able to drink it straight with a good coke or other soda to chase it with (the texture is very prone to cause a gag reflex), SOME will definitely not. SWIM found snapple to be superb in neutralizing the gag reflex. Make sure when you add the snapple you drink it quick, as it is my belief the longer any liqud sits with this powder in it the more gelly it becomes. Someone who isn't you could also pour half into another cup, add snaple, down quick, chase with soda, come back 10 minutes later and do the other half the same way. USE someone who isn't you's judgement on how strong your stomach is. This stuff is lke robitussin level 3 LMAO.
6. Pour soda into any and all cups used, swishing around, and drinking that. Do it atleast twice for any any and all cups used.
7. Drink an additional 1-3 shots, NO MORE UNLESS SOMEONE WHO ISNT YOU HAS A MEGAA TOLERANCE AND IS DAMN SURE, depending on your dose and tolerance.
*****Someone who isn't you can pace them selves with the last shot, in fact somewho SWIM knows who used this was withdrawing badly and used a 20mg tablet and only used the initial alocohol and no futher drinks and went from feeling like shit to feeling GOOOOD. This person was taking the 20mg as is and not getting much relief previously. Also this person only had a medium tolerance and generally doesn't abuse their med in anyway i.e. snorting, shooting, plugging. This could also be done with the new generics, but most will probably just snort those bc its so easy. This could also be done with original formulation. Bare in mind everyones level of potentiation will differ, so use someone who isnt you's head, be smart. SWIM strongly suggests only drinking 1 additional shot after the inital drink and waiting a full hour before deciding to drink anymore although SWIM does have a hunch theres a window of about 20 minutes after the initial drink for potentiation to reallly occur, ALTHOUGH THAT IS NOT TO SAY ITS SAFE AFTER AN HOUR TO START FOOLISHLY BINGE DRINKING! This is a great method because you don't have to use heat, and don't risk damaging your nose with residue from using the pedipaws or a dremel.
This DEFINITELY works, and seems to work betting than snorting the old formula maybe even I kid you not. SWIM has tried so many different methods to make these work better and this is hands, bar none, THE BEST, method there is in SWIMS opinion. SWIM truly feels this way. SWIM appreciates your comments and would LOVE to hear other people experiences using this. Use caution!
