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Heroin i cant hit my veins!!!!! pissed!!!

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coastin

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due to lapse in insurance i couldnt fill my script of suboxone (16mg for 5 years) so wednesday was the last dose, thursday i was sick did a few bags of dope (4) just got unsick, friday found some xanax did that to hold me over, so saturday i got a bundle sniffed a few diddnt do much so i got a rigfrom my cousin whos diabetic, i shot up years ago but my buddy would do it for me because my veins SUCK... but i remember which ones he could hit on, so i mixed it and loaded it up got a nice brown color, i tie up and slap my arm n pump my wrist, insert the tip and on the draw back... NOTHING, im directly on the vein but i just cant draw blood..i tried many times and no fucking luck.. so i just shot it and diddnt get any rush, i tried this 3 total times with no success..so i tried my right arm.. still nothing just the depressing site of air getting sucked in there .so here i am frustrated, wishing i had ropes all over my arms... is there anyone out there with shitty veins like me and have any tips??? sorry to rant im just pissed off because i wasted alot of money and have 2 bags left and i wanna make them count... thanks bluelighters for any input
 
Dude DO NOT hit if you don't get blood when you try and register. You are asking for abcesses doing that. If you must do it, do it in your arse, it's called skin popping. Intra muscular can also be done but you are at more risk from abcesses, and where would you rather have an abcess? In some fatty tissue or in a muscle?

Anyway, onto helping you out, cause I know what its like lol. First off, you are using a torniquet right? Secondly, try a very hot bath, as hot as you can manage. This will raise the veins up. Stay in the bath and inject. If the hot bath doesn't help I really don't know what will.

You say that you think you are right in the vein when you are not? Keep the plunger pulled back a little so you get an air bubble and some vacuum pressure, and move the needle back and forth gently and slowly and when you hit the vein the vacuum pressure will suck the blood in a treat.

BTW, have you got shitty veins from fucking them up through injecting, or are they just like that in general?

Post back and let me know what you think. I will help you to the end. I know what it's like, I am a heroin addict myself.
 
Also think about needles you use. You mentioned you'd taken the needle from your diabetic cousin. If diabetics use needles, they do it for s.c. injections and for that thinner and shorter needles are used, not really good for i.v.'ing brown heroin which is freebase and you gotta cook it with an acid before registering. You end up with quite a thick solution. For any i.v. injection 0.45mm needles seem to be the best for most people.
 
get long tip needles i have terrible veins. you might not be tying off tight enough or my best theory is you are terrible at shooting up. I have been doing it for a long time. You need to learn to look in places you wouldnt normally ever think of. I've shot up in the palm of my fucking hands for christ sake.
Final advice.. never get frustrated and shoot under the skin just to shoot up. Always be patient and keep trying till you find something. Or just get someone to do it for you because you are obviously terrible at it.
 
I can give you a tip

I'm an incredibly veiny person but this didn't not start happening until I started drinking a ton of water

I only drink water with my food..no soda (yes slight hippy)

But...I thought i'd through that out there....I have veins coming out on my legs now as well....
 
Also think about needles you use. You mentioned you'd taken the needle from your diabetic cousin. If diabetics use needles, they do it for s.c. injections and for that thinner and shorter needles are used, not really good for i.v.'ing brown heroin which is freebase and you gotta cook it with an acid before registering. You end up with quite a thick solution. For any i.v. injection 0.45mm needles seem to be the best for most people.

From the OP's terminology, I would say that they are from the northeast US, so the dope they are getting is #4, and easily dissolves in water. No need to heat it, or add something acid, that is for the #3 yall get in the UK.
 
yeah i admit i do suck at shooting up but i have shot up my friend more than 50 times, but never myself, so its kinda hard going from his rope veins than hit to mine that you have to look for, i tie off with a belt, n i find the fattest vein that pops and and put it in, and draw back on the plunger, and just see air come out, Brit mentioned holding the plunger back so it has more vacuum to draw the blood, i just need to know how deep do i have to go to be in the vein, i was going about 1/2 to 3/4 of the tip in and moving it trying to draw blood but it just diddnt happen, i tried a bunch of times my arms are sore and that was a major fail in my book. so what i learned from this is
1:
Britfag1: will try a bath to raise those veins up and find a torniquet, and if i cant hit just stick it in my butt cheek. thanks
2:
ADDER: i will try to get a 0.45 mm rig and give it a try, thanks man
3:
lizcas i will try a longer rig aswell, and yes i am terrible at it because my veins truly do suck, i only attempted it on myself a few times before. so therefore im on here asking for advice. thanks
4:
Paralel: ok ill drink water
5:tommyboy you are correct i am from around the new york area are dope comes in wax baggie stamps you dont need to heat it. tan-light-brown powder
 
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I don't see how people can't hit the crook of their arm unless it is collapsed but I have a friend in the same boat as you. He ties off very tight low on his forearm and hits the veins in his hands.
 
Dude DO NOT hit if you don't get blood when you try and register. You are asking for abcesses doing that. If you must do it, do it in your arse, it's called skin popping. Intra muscular can also be done but you are at more risk from abcesses, and where would you rather have an abcess? In some fatty tissue or in a muscle?

Anyway, onto helping you out, cause I know what its like lol. First off, you are using a torniquet right? Secondly, try a very hot bath, as hot as you can manage. This will raise the veins up. Stay in the bath and inject. If the hot bath doesn't help I really don't know what will.

You say that you think you are right in the vein when you are not? Keep the plunger pulled back a little so you get an air bubble and some vacuum pressure, and move the needle back and forth gently and slowly and when you hit the vein the vacuum pressure will suck the blood in a treat.

BTW, have you got shitty veins from fucking them up through injecting, or are they just like that in general?

Post back and let me know what you think. I will help you to the end. I know what it's like, I am a heroin addict myself.


Whoa whoaaa whoaaaaaa..Just a minute there...

Sure the hot bath trick may work but so many people die from shooting up and nodding off then drowning. Maybe take the hot bath..have the rig filled and ready, jump out, then shoot haha. I know it sounds like a task but after all this is harm reduction!
 
If your biggest problem is not knowing how deep to go then you might benefit from a little trick I discovered recently... If you know the general "left-right" location of the vein, in other words you know where the vein is, just not how deep to go to register, then try this: push the needle into your skin where you know the vein is just a TINY bit - just enough to break the skin. Now pull the plunger back as if you were going to register, but KEEP it held back; this creates a vacuum. Now slowly push the needle in and when it finally hits the vein, the preset vacuum will pull the blood in and now you know you're in.

It's the best trick I ever learned and takes all the guesswork out of knowing how deep the vein is (always my biggest problem). This way, as long as I know the general location, I can almost always register and get my shot.

Good luck. And I agree about the warm water thing - I don't go as far as a bath, but I run warm/hottish water over the area I plan to inject for a minute or two before I inject, makes finding the veins easier.
 
just snort it if yer having that much of a hard time

shooting oxy was never that great fer me idk what everyone is all worked up about with the whole shooting oxy thing it was the same if not weaker and shorter than snorting imo
 
Whoa whoaaa whoaaaaaa..Just a minute there...

Sure the hot bath trick may work but so many people die from shooting up and nodding off then drowning. Maybe take the hot bath..have the rig filled and ready, jump out, then shoot haha. I know it sounds like a task but after all this is harm reduction!

hes right my friend she died from that exact thing... RIP katy
 
I'm a relatively veiny person myself, but I stay in the basement, so a lot of times when I'd go to shoot, my veins wouldn't be exposed. I'd just do some reps of curls or pushups or something to get my blood pressure elevated a little bit, enough to make my veins stick out. And also, I'd hit either along the topside of my forearms or bicep (didn't seem to make bad marks for me, but I don't think you're concerned about marks). And if you pull back and just get air, I'd just leave it in me and poke around until I hit something, eventually you gotta hit something. I know most people do that, but some people I did it in front of thought I was rather "junkyish" for that scene. Shit, they were stickin needles in their arms too, just didn't work as hard to it as I did :P Hope I could help a little, and not reiterate on things already known to you.
 
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