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I am seriously curious if eating poppy pods would manage pain

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The thing is you can grow poppies here and its not a crime unless you scrape them so I mean they grow like wildflowers cuz that is what they are.

I dunno why but rx pain pills past perks get me strung out but high quality ecp doesn't do shit but make me need a drink in the morning.

So I figure why not just cop a couple acres of land and a trailer long term.

Thoughts?
 
Yeah, eating pods is effective, but the alkaloid content is inconsistent, thus unquanitfiable.

Also, i dont know where you live, (assuming USA?) but the laws regarding poppy cultivation tend to be overlooked in the case of ornimentals - but growing a crop, as you suggest, seems unlikely to be looked at with such leniency.
For pain management i really think you are best off seeking legitmate medical treatment.
 
Well legitimate medical treatment has been rather shitty and almost killed me. It ate my soul up proper but now I am better than ever. I would prefer to never see a doctor again. I just don't trust them cuz they always try to give me opana which I don't want.

I have had stomach problems since I was a teen and can't keep weight on very easily. I haven't been able to see a specialist yet and I have been trying. I had to wait a year to see a psychiatrist and when I went in he said he had the max number of sub, opiate, and methadone patients and I just wanted to talk. He told me to get out his office and I said hold up you just got two hundred dollars to tell me to go fuck myself, we got 14 more minutes asshole so yeah no doctor wants to have me as a patient.

I feel like scumbag for using medicaid but I mean I couldnt afford my stomach pills or klonpin or even fucking percocets at the pharmacy without it. The give me lyrica too. I don't want to be on anything that strong anymore cuz I have had seizures without klonpin. I am taking less and just not telling my doctor that because I just try to take them when I need them and now that I learned to manage panic attacks it would be nice to not have to wake up feeling awful in my stomach and just go back to sleep but no I gotta take my pills and smoke a joint.

I also have had chronic insomnia all my life and have to drink liquor to sleep or I wind up staying up for up to a week straight. So its not like I can pass a piss test.

If I gotta I go to the hospital and tell them I dislocated my elbow again cuz its gets all swollen and black and blue when I work and I work hard. I started lifting free weights again and can hang clean more than I bench because it is so hard to keep the weights stable so I am having trouble keeping weight on and end up wearing 4 or 5 layers cuz I get cold so easy.

My blood runs like ice. I am completly emotionally numb but rather empathetic so yeah I got issues that I dont even want to talk about and suppress traumatic experiences and some things took me 20 years to understand what happened. I had a real screwed up childhood starting using since my sisters drugged me with wine to lsd as early as I remember and there is way worse shit than that. I actually really liked taking lsd with my sister but come on what type of 7 year old does acid?

The only pain pills that don't fuck my life right up the ass are perks, vikes, and dillies.

With my documented broken bones any doctor would give me at least 60 mgs of oxy a day. I prefer the type with tylenol. I wish they would give me codeine but they trip about that now. They always want me to take the type without tylenol as they say it isnt doing my stomach any favors but I really disagree.

I dunno, I just think something more natural would work better for me. Fuck heroin doesn't make me sick. I know the risks but I also know how to keep to myself and make my land private.
 
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I recommend growing poppies on someone's else lands , they do best in what can be best descriped as wasteland (sandy, barren ground) construction yards are the best if you are in an urban enviroment
 
I have no problem with having more than one place but yeah I would probably do it out in no mans land. Its not like you cant get papavar soniforum or however its spelled.

Yeah if you do it out in the middle of nowhere its not a big deal and you could easily make opium and laudin tincture which you could make with green tea and scoop off the codeine when you purify it.

I really doubt that personal amounts would bring any attention. I dont want to sell any. I dont want to be a criminal anymore at all.

I have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you did get caught I mean whats wrong with walking around the woods hunting squirrels and rabbits?

That is why you can plead the 5th. I always try to make it unacountable and discreet as possible. I wouldnt even tell anyone irl that I had it. I am not stupid enough to tell a gf what I do with my own time.

Yeah they will beat the shit out of you and not give you any food medicine soap or toilet paper until they realize you know how to use the thumb and you aint talking. I have been denied my phone call by being locked up in a cell with a broken phone. So they try to ply you with medicine and food and will let you have a fucking siezure but I still wouldnt talk other than "I want a fucking lawyer and you can suck my cock."
 
Having maintained a habit for periods of time from homegrown, guerrilla-grown and swiped pods - do you realise how many plants you would need to obtain this many pods?
Then, how much land it would require?
And finally, how most climatic regions get one harvest per season, with a growing period of several months?

It's a nice idea, but the practicalities are stacked heavily against you, i'm afraid. Speaking from experience too, but i don't use opiates anymore.
 
I absolutely agree OP. Most of my garden is illegal, well some of it is like you say, only illegal if I extract or make preparations like ayahuasca which I love for sure. I'm an avid hobbyist/amatuer Ethnobotanist so I always get excited when someone considers growing the plants that contain the alkaloids we all know and love.

If I am to be on pain pills/opioids for too much longer it is likely that I will start growing poppies again, but I will be doing so to primarily extract morphine which to me is a superior drug for pain especially in the evenings when I require more sedation to aid sleep. So I may be breaking out my lab gear once again. Yes it's fraught with danger when it comes to the law but that's not an insurmountable problem. Cops have to walk past my E. Coca and E.Novo plants to get to my front door, I have a solid hedge of Catha Edulis (Narrow leaf Khat) which is what I will be doing with Coca and Novo's too - Just getting my stocks up - such beautiful plants. I've sent most of my seedlings to a mate who lives out in "the country" as we say - and yes, the alkaloid content is great and really quite consistent, especially in the Novo variety.

So I say go for it dopemaster - and with a handle like yours this really is quite expected of you lol.
 
I did the math and it didnt seem like too much work for what u get.

I always prefered opium to anything else for pain and dont give a fuck about consequences if I get caught.

I always try to make shit fucking discreet and not be able to be held accountable.

LOL about the handle. I know how to drug and pimp but I just soon would work hard. I want to build a house with solar panels and grow some of my own food and hunt deer, rabbits, and squirrels and I dont give a fuck about game wardens or hunting permits. I would grow the shit deer eat and name em breakfast, lunch and dinner.
 
Thats what I was thinking. Ain't crime in taking the seeds out and well I am pretty sure drying them is an easy way to go.

I suppose my only concern would be codeine but I think you can easily scoop it off when brewing.

I got my guide on an encrypted file with the new anarchists cookbook- hacker edition.
 
There isn't as easy way to separate alkaloids from within the tea. The morphine will overpower most everything else though.
 
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What's that? Pulmonary oedema? You are planning to acquire/ cook compot?

Or do you mean thebaine , cause that's a lot more toxic
 
Codeine? Codeine is inactive and its active form is morphine, so... why would you want to separate it from morphine? Anyway, the codeine to morphine ratio is so low anyway that codeine is an insignificant player in pods.

There is a way to separate morphine from codeine + thebaine, but you'd need to do some kitchen chemistry. It's not very tricky, but seeing as people drink poppy tea without any problems, is there really a need?
 
There is no need to make poppy tea tricky or more complicated than water + poppies + heat :)

Flavors and chemistry beyond boiling water are not required. I like mine with honey. Everyone is different.
 
Even hot water isnt really necessary.
Wash + toss is the best method IME. I used to use some kind of fruit juice for taste.
 
100%, I was only talking about liquid form.

Good point spacejunk. It's even simpler to just eat the drugs. Personally, I can't toss and wash anymore, it makes me nauseated :( so I drink the drugs instead. TNW preserves more of the actives, yet may take longer to kick in id think. Not a huge deal when the effects last for more than a day lol
 
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you can make liquid tea without HOT water , just need a fridge it gives a slightly different akaloid profile.
 
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