When I was about 18/19 (I am female and now in my late 20s) a doctor was overprescribing me A LOT of opiates. I and they went to overboard with it, I ended up on 80mg of oxy, 60mg of codeine, 20mg of valium, and in the later stages, 80mg methadone on top of that. THIS WAS EVERY DAY. FOR MONTHS. how was I not dead? I know I would have built up a tolerance but how just how. I believe this doctor has now lost his license and I have long since quit my days of taking substances recreationally. So for those that want to know, there is a happy ending.
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Opioids how was I not dead?
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I assume that the oxy was extended release and you didn't mess with it. 60 mg of Codeine is not a lot and I doubt that it would do anything in that combination. 20 mg of Valium is also not that much. I know nothing about Methadone but judging from the first three substances, it's not a surprise to me that you survived. Did you have some health issue at the time that the drugs were supposed to help with or was it only recreational?
They were instant release. I have a lot of health issues and I was abusing these substances mainly for coping. At one stage before the oxy, I was taking 30 codeine tabs a day for a year, don't know how my liver didn't clap out, I know I didn't mention that bit though. I was basically tranquilised from the amount I was on, maybe I am not explaining it correctly. I am Autistic so I have trouble with words.
Methadone is a substitute for heroin in most cases, but in my case it was supposed to sub the other things.
Methadone is a substitute for heroin in most cases, but in my case it was supposed to sub the other things.
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Tolerance can be an incredible thing too. The amount of a certain substance that would get one person slightly buzzed could kill another person.
And as you say the only thing I see with the codeine pills that could be an issue is the acetaminophen and the liver.
Humans are pretty tough. So tough that I’m always surprised when somebody does die.
And as you say the only thing I see with the codeine pills that could be an issue is the acetaminophen and the liver.
Humans are pretty tough. So tough that I’m always surprised when somebody does die.
foodcrisis
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people's bodies just get used to certain drugs and once a person gets a tolerance, they can handle more and more.
i'm guessing there's not really much to explain with the chemistry in the brain cause with other drugs that effect the brain differently people also build up huge tolerances with.... obviously some one could explain what happens in the brain and why people will need more and more opiates, but dramatic tolerance issues occurs with a lot of different drugs.
i personally have problems taking even starter doses of benzos and stuff like flexeral doctors have given me.. like i only needed 1/8th of a starter dose of flexeral. the first time i tried half of what the doctor prescribed and a beer, and it was way too much for me. everyone is different.
anyways, if you ever go back to these drugs, which hopefully you don't, just make sure you realize you won't need nearly as much as when you were using.. probably obvious to some people, but i don't know how into harm reduction the OP is... you may even find yourself with the same tolerance as your first time using if you have taken enough time off.
i'm guessing there's not really much to explain with the chemistry in the brain cause with other drugs that effect the brain differently people also build up huge tolerances with.... obviously some one could explain what happens in the brain and why people will need more and more opiates, but dramatic tolerance issues occurs with a lot of different drugs.
i personally have problems taking even starter doses of benzos and stuff like flexeral doctors have given me.. like i only needed 1/8th of a starter dose of flexeral. the first time i tried half of what the doctor prescribed and a beer, and it was way too much for me. everyone is different.
anyways, if you ever go back to these drugs, which hopefully you don't, just make sure you realize you won't need nearly as much as when you were using.. probably obvious to some people, but i don't know how into harm reduction the OP is... you may even find yourself with the same tolerance as your first time using if you have taken enough time off.
Opioids are pretty non-toxic once you have a tolerance. When I was on 380mg/day of methadone I would inject the entire contents of the strongest fentanyl patches (100ug/hr), which contained 16.8mg of fentanyl. On a few occasions I'd inject two, in 3ml or 5ml syringe, all at once. And, I was also taking benzos at the time. Benzos are also of fairly low acute toxicity (even without tolerance, it's somewhat difficult to OD on benzos alone).
But these days, if I were to consume 380mg of methadone, I'd be dead in 90 minutes. Maybe even sooner.
Anyway, that's the answer to you question: "how was I not dead"
But these days, if I were to consume 380mg of methadone, I'd be dead in 90 minutes. Maybe even sooner.
Anyway, that's the answer to you question: "how was I not dead"
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There's really no ceiling to opioid tolerance. It doesn't take all that long either to build a pretty overdose proof tolerance when using daily.
thats wild... im glad you got off the shit. i had a dr for 30 yrs that gave me basicaly whatever i said i needed. as far as downers/anti-depresants, dalmaine , chloral hydrate,valium,restoril...u name it. i read he was being sued by a patient b/c he told her to Fuck off....lol he has retired & i now have a fabulous young black dr. that actually sends me for blood tests & bone density scans.
I am very into harm reduction now. I use medical cannabis, for my health conditions and mushies for depression. And it has been many years now, and I have slipped up a couple of times but not fully submerged to the dark side. and my tolerance was A LOT lower. I am currently nearly off the methadone that got me off the opiates too!
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20 minutes of CPR?
24 yr old son OD on fent he did, his friends were so scared they gave me their gram of tainted coke. Cuz my sons eyes rolled back, unresponsive, not breathing. Knock knock on my bedroom door....Uh, your son needs you.
Hes laying on the living room floor, limp for the slaps and the 8 mgs of narcan (hint dont sniff what you cant unsniff, and fent takes 12 mgs narcan), seemingly dead and not really responding to the CPR
he just kept getting bluer then greyer; his friends dragged him into the living room
Paramedics arrived; gave him 4mgs narcan and he was good again
Supposedly (never trust an addicts brain and their ability to deceive).
That said, how is he not dead
Glad your not either hope you youngers stay safe
24 yr old son OD on fent he did, his friends were so scared they gave me their gram of tainted coke. Cuz my sons eyes rolled back, unresponsive, not breathing. Knock knock on my bedroom door....Uh, your son needs you.
Hes laying on the living room floor, limp for the slaps and the 8 mgs of narcan (hint dont sniff what you cant unsniff, and fent takes 12 mgs narcan), seemingly dead and not really responding to the CPR
he just kept getting bluer then greyer; his friends dragged him into the living room
Paramedics arrived; gave him 4mgs narcan and he was good again
Supposedly (never trust an addicts brain and their ability to deceive).
That said, how is he not dead
Glad your not either hope you youngers stay safe
DeathIndustrial88
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Simple answer is tolerance.
Society has been conditioned to believe that if you use opioids, you WILL drop dead at any given point, no matter what.
But that's just not true. Overdoses generally happen when somebody either intentionally or accidentally takes waaay too much of an opioid for their tolerance.
For example, somebody's used to doing heroin & then gets a bag of fentanyl, doesn't know it's fentanyl & doses it in the same amount they would heroin & they OD.
Stuff like this wouldn't even happen if opioids weren't criminalized and stigmatized in the first place.
You're also pretty young, so your body can handle things a little better probably.
I've done some stupid shit in my 20's as well that I'm surprised I survived (example : doing meth, DXM, tramadol, benzos, vodka, all within the same 24hrs, I'm surprised I never had a seizure). Extremely hideously stupid & dangerous, but some times you just get lucky & bounce back.
But I think in your case it just comes down to tolerance.
What irks me is when people have been on opioids + benzos for years & years & then their doctor decides to take one away because of the non-existent "OD Risk" with this combo. Even though for some one with a tolerance, the chances of ODing or dropping dead from taking the two are pretty slim unless you have no-to-low tolerance for each.
Society has been conditioned to believe that if you use opioids, you WILL drop dead at any given point, no matter what.
But that's just not true. Overdoses generally happen when somebody either intentionally or accidentally takes waaay too much of an opioid for their tolerance.
For example, somebody's used to doing heroin & then gets a bag of fentanyl, doesn't know it's fentanyl & doses it in the same amount they would heroin & they OD.
Stuff like this wouldn't even happen if opioids weren't criminalized and stigmatized in the first place.
You're also pretty young, so your body can handle things a little better probably.
I've done some stupid shit in my 20's as well that I'm surprised I survived (example : doing meth, DXM, tramadol, benzos, vodka, all within the same 24hrs, I'm surprised I never had a seizure). Extremely hideously stupid & dangerous, but some times you just get lucky & bounce back.
But I think in your case it just comes down to tolerance.
What irks me is when people have been on opioids + benzos for years & years & then their doctor decides to take one away because of the non-existent "OD Risk" with this combo. Even though for some one with a tolerance, the chances of ODing or dropping dead from taking the two are pretty slim unless you have no-to-low tolerance for each.
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I'm currently on suboxone and also in my 20's. Honestly I missed getting high and the rush of opiates/oids, so I tapered my dose down over a few days and then had three days in the hell of abstinence to lower my tolerance. When I was in the thick of it I took 520mg of oxycodone, 360mg Codeine, 9mg clonazepam and 20mg Diazepam in one day and I didn't even feel a fucking thing. Tolerance is a bitch, and after that one day I asked myself the same question.
damn. just damn.