Benzos How to prove that my diazepam tablets are legit

[Syrio Forel]

I suffer from generalised anxiety disorder, panic attacks, and agoraphobia. Tried therapy, SSRIs, and all the usual things you’re supposed to try before benzos. None of them did a damn thing. Benzos are really the only thing that let me function well enough to sustain a job and a relationship.

Unfortunately, I live in the UK, where doctors are deeply paranoid about prescribing benzos. A lot of them just won’t do it. Period.

Some time ago, I found a website which allowed you to buy diazepam without hassle of visiting a GP and debating them for it. The idea is, you fill in a questionnaire and they send your answers to a clinician. The clinician then issues a private prescription to a pharmacy, which then dispenses the prescription, which is then couriered to your house. It’s expensive, but it’s also absolutely perfect for me.

Recently, I put in an order for 28 x 5mg diazepam tablets. That’s typically enough to last me at least 3 months (I’m careful with them). However, they look different to how they usually look and I’m a little suspicious.

The tablets are pale yellow, with a 5 etched on one side and a breakline (so you can easily snap them in half) on the other. There are no other markings. Unfortunately, googling that description brings up quite a few tablets that aren’t diazepam.

The tablets came in a box labelled diazepam. They were in sealed strips with diazepam written on the strips. Included was an instruction leaflet like you’d get with any diazepam prescription. Furthermore, the website genuinely seems like a legitimate company. They’re registered with Companies House (A UK Government website that holds company info like the name and address of the CEO, main shareholders etc…). They may be exploiting a loophole in the law, but I really don’t think they’re illegal.

However, I’m still a bit suspicious of the tablets. They look different to the ones I normally receive (the ones I normally receive have C DG etched on one side) and I’m concerned about the possibility that an unscrupulous supplier has given me counterfeit drugs.

Is there any way I can determine with certainty that the pills I received today are legit? For instance, does anyone recognise the description (pale yellow, 5 on one side, breakline on the other) as diazepam? Or is there a testing kit? I’m at a loss. Many thanks in advance for any help or advice you can give me.

 

[andyturbo]

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[reverse cosmosis]

I've seen similar ones dispensed from.a pharmacy but that doesn't mean these are necessarily legit either.

Idk if there's a presumptive reagent test for diazepam but places like WEDINOS and Energy Control do GCMS testing for these purposes.

Failing that send me a strip and I'll chew them all up and let you know what I think.

Edited to say Andy gave a much more useful answer than I did but the offer to taste test still stands

 

[BadBoy377]

Yeah, I use that website too. It's good. I don't think you need to worry.

But you could send one to wedinos for testing if it will put your mind at rest.

I'm sure they're fine. Presumably you know the taste by now? I've had various different brands from that site for different meds. Variation is normal if they don't guarantee a brand.

 

[andyturbo]

Also, I would be researching the brand they sent you and seeing how it compares. Diazepam is just the active substance there will be a brand selling it (eg Valium and there are heaps of generics depending on your country. We have Valpam, Antenex ect)

Occasionally a pharmacy may make its medications, but this has become very rare these days. But that's also another chance if it only says Diazepam. It very well may be counterfeit also.

 

[andyturbo]

I've seen similar ones dispensed from.a pharmacy but that doesn't mean these are necessarily legit either.

Idk if there's a presumptive reagent test for diazepam but places like WEDINOS and Energy Control do GCMS testing for these purposes.

Failing that send me a strip and I'll chew them all up and let you know what I think.

Edited to say Andy gave a much more useful answer than I did but the offer to taste test still stands

There is and it's fairly new to the market. Called Zimmermann. ProTestKit stocks them and is located in the UK as well. https://protestkit.eu/zimmermann-reagent-test-kit/

A drug-checking service would be the best option though, as others have mentioned but if that's out of your budget or not an option then I would personally be going with one of the kits.

Good luck and be safe!

 

[reverse cosmosis]

There is and it's fairly new to the market. Called Zimmermann. ProTestKit stocks them and is located in the UK as well. https://protestkit.eu/zimmermann-reagent-test-kit/

A drug-checking service would be the best option though, as others have mentioned but if that's out of your budget or not an option then I would personally be going with one of the kits.

Good luck and be safe!

Good to know but I've used a reagent test twice since customs took mine off me during a raid in 2013. Both times were in one day. Its not really relevant but one set of tabs tested positive for indole, the other did not. I consumed both anyway.

Don't be like me, click that link and buy a test kit. If you need more convincing just read my post history. Being me is not for the faint hearted.

Mostly I am now a human test kit pls insert drugs

 

[andyturbo]

Good to know but I've used a reagent test twice since customs took mine off me during a raid in 2013. Both times were in one day. Its not really relevant but one set of tabs tested positive for indole, the other did not. I consumed both anyway.

Don't be like me, click that link and buy a test kit. If you need more convincing just read my post history. Being me is not for the faint hearted.

Mostly I am now a human test kit pls insert drugs

Oh man that really sucks to hear! Sorry that happened to you. I am curious now as to which country you live in, but of course I respect your privacy and completely understand if you do not wish to disclose that.

They are perfectly legal where I live thankfully (Australia)

 

[gwencooper]

I suffer from generalised anxiety disorder, panic attacks, and agoraphobia. Tried therapy, SSRIs, and all the usual things you’re supposed to try before benzos. None of them did a damn thing. Benzos are really the only thing that let me function well enough to sustain a job and a relationship.

Unfortunately, I live in the UK, where doctors are deeply paranoid about prescribing benzos. A lot of them just won’t do it. Period.

Some time ago, I found a website which allowed you to buy diazepam without hassle of visiting a GP and debating them for it. The idea is, you fill in a questionnaire and they send your answers to a clinician. The clinician then issues a private prescription to a pharmacy, which then dispenses the prescription, which is then couriered to your house. It’s expensive, but it’s also absolutely perfect for me.

Recently, I put in an order for 28 x 5mg diazepam tablets. That’s typically enough to last me at least 3 months (I’m careful with them). However, they look different to how they usually look and I’m a little suspicious.

The tablets are pale yellow, with a 5 etched on one side and a breakline (so you can easily snap them in half) on the other. There are no other markings. Unfortunately, googling that description brings up quite a few tablets that aren’t diazepam.

The tablets came in a box labelled diazepam. They were in sealed strips with diazepam written on the strips. Included was an instruction leaflet like you’d get with any diazepam prescription. Furthermore, the website genuinely seems like a legitimate company. They’re registered with Companies House (A UK Government website that holds company info like the name and address of the CEO, main shareholders etc…). They may be exploiting a loophole in the law, but I really don’t think they’re illegal.

However, I’m still a bit suspicious of the tablets. They look different to the ones I normally receive (the ones I normally receive have C DG etched on one side) and I’m concerned about the possibility that an unscrupulous supplier has given me counterfeit drugs.

Is there any way I can determine with certainty that the pills I received today are legit? For instance, does anyone recognise the description (pale yellow, 5 on one side, breakline on the other) as diazepam? Or is there a testing kit? I’m at a loss. Many thanks in advance for any help or advice you can give me.

That seems right. Taste them. Maybe even try just one. See what happens. They kind of have a weird Xanax benzo taste. I'm not sure about testing kits. You can take to a hospital I think but that may go on your permanent record, not cool for those in USA. Don't worry. I order pills sometimes from India and get great product in the packaging. Not just the blisters but the boxes too and I look up online. Hope that helps a bit?

 

[4DQSAR]

If they are UK based and behaving in a legal manner, I would be surprised if the diazepam was fake because the price in the BNF is just £.0.67/28 x 5mg tablets.

If you see my reasoning, if they are charging you ten or even twenty times the price of the medication, sending out fake medicines would obviously result in the pharmacist losing their licence and the site likely being closed down.

It's a VERY grey area and it's my impression that the very last thing any of them want is scrutiny into their actions.

 

[Fire&Water]

What's equally concerning
for decades generic pharm' drugs were guaranteed to be formulated within 10% of name brand

for example:
10mg generic diazepam is supposed to contain within 9mg - 11mg per tablet

I haven't checked into the country of origin yet
but I bet the couple guesses I have ring true

 

[goaway12345]

Take 1 or 2 (or whatever your tolerance) and see how you feel ?

 

[andyturbo]

Take 1 or 2 (or whatever your tolerance) and see how you feel ?

I understand that you mean well, and it's not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things so this is just my own and I'm not saying yours is wrong.

But I personally wouldn't be ingesting an unknown substance (this includes questionsable legitness or possible adulterated or counterfiet drugs) as a means to help determine the outcome.

At least not as a first line measure without other tests having been undertaken.

A.T

 

[goaway12345]

I understand that you mean well, and it's not uncommon for people to have different opinions on things so this is just my own and I'm not saying yours is wrong.

But I personally wouldn't be ingesting an unknown substance (this includes questionsable legitness or possible adulterated or counterfiet drugs) as a means to help determine the outcome.

At least not as a first line measure without other tests having been undertaken.

A.T

Yeah true, you're right in what you said, it could be anything and he shouldn't just take 1 or 2 of something he doesn't know what is inside it.

Me being stupid me I wouldn't care and just take it, like the RC Benzos and other RC chemicals I've taken over the years.

 

[andyturbo]

Yeah true, you're right in what you said, it could be anything and he shouldn't just take 1 or 2 of something he doesn't know what is inside it.

Me being stupid me I wouldn't care and just take it, like the RC Benzos and other RC chemicals I've taken over the years.

Thats understandable mate, and I appreciate your correct interpretation of my post and not thinking I was having a go out you.

 

[4DQSAR]

What's equally concerning
for decades generic pharm' drugs were guaranteed to be formulated within 10% of name brand

for example:
10mg generic diazepam is supposed to contain within 9mg - 11mg per tablet

I was given to understand that the tolerances for a generic were in fact stricter. Certainly in the UK, a medicine must contain ±2% of the stated dose i.e. the dose printed on the livery of the product.

It certainly seems to be the case that other nations are less strict but the reason requiring accurate formulations is the small TI of some medicines.

Now I am aware of multiple cases in which generics beheved in a significantly different manner to the branded product. One generic bupropion sustained-release formulation was discovered to have a flaw. It was dose-dumping and a few patients had seizures.

Even worse, just last year a generic manufacturer mislabelled (mixed up) their 30mg and 60mg morphine tablets. It was hushed up and thankfully I don't think anyone died, but to me that suggests a lack of batch testing. I think it possible that when medicines whose contents widely diverge from the stated dose, it's that lack of testing.

After all, in bulk diazepam costs something like $250/Kg. So cheap that the price of the packaging actually becomes a significant fraction of the production costs. It wouldn't make much difference to the manufacturer to purposefully underdose. That said, I DO wonder if someone in the production facility might be diverting some of the active to sell on. But without batch testing, the managers wouldn't know.

 

[Syrio Forel]

Thanks very much for all your comments everyone. They were really useful. I’ve ordered an EZ test kit and will let you know the results.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

If they are actually giving you a private prescription and getting them delivered from a real pharmacy, they should be fine. That's assuming they're telling you the truth, rather than just selling you black market diaz at a premium.

Different pills from different manufacturers will look different, there's a lot of different generic diaz brands

And I don't believe there are any cases of 5mg yellows being fake, it's the 10mg blues that are sometime spiked with nitazenes. This doesn't mean that your pills are definitely real, but it's a clue

If you're worried about fakes try a different benzo, I THINK diaz and alpraz are the only ones commonly faked in the UK

You can send the pill to WEDINOS for free but I think that will take a few weeks. If you pay to have them tested the results will likely be quicker.

 

[ghostfreak]

Yeah a test kit to test if there’s Diazepam in them (but can’t say how much) and send to Wedinos to be sure - but fill in the form correctly as they can reject it if not.

 

[Keif' Richards]

You would need to have them tested in a laboratory to know for sure. A positive result for Diazepam (Valium) from a standard reagent only accounts for the presence of that drug. You never know what these guys are gonna do when they're producing this shit. They might put some Diazepam in and then maybe some crazy Alprazolam (Xanax) analog to "beef it up" for the sake of popularity.

I will say that a positive test for Diazepam in my opinion, likely implies that you've got pills that are exclusively Diazepam, but nobody can guarantee this.

Unless you're obtaining pills like this from a pharmacy (a legitimate one), you have no way of knowing. If you're getting from India, you can do your due diligence and connect with reputable suppliers. You have to do your homework and not let those guys fuck with you.

Those are the best and only answers to this question. We've been tolerating these threads as of late on a probationary basis. I want people to get information if it's available. However, we don't want threads that are nothing but endless speculation with no progress. It's not helpful to anyone and takes up space that could be used by others with questions that can actually be answered.

If you want, send me a message and I'll help you out.