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xtcbiz

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So I've been rolling for just over a year now, and pretty much the only places are roll are at raves

So my third time rolling was at a massive around Halloween in socal (you figure out the name *hint* *hint*)
Anyways, what I completely remember about that roll is the overwhelming euphoria I felt for at least 3-4 hours.
It was literally like rolling orgasms coming and going

All I consumed was 1 blue smurf pokeball, then a purple alien (1.5 hrs later), and then finally a white angry bomb pokeball (1hr after the purple alien)(it wasn't until after I ate the white angry bomb that I was really feeling the orgasmic feelings)




So needless to say this experience left me wanting to recreate it again and experience it again.

So anyways I thought that if I could feel that good from just three pills, I wonder how good I could feel with 5 pills.
So then around NYE a massive occured which I again attended.
So I took 5, remember feeling really good, but it seemed to be to intense to remember the euphoria.

So then what happened after this is that I kept uping my pill count, going to raves each month or every other month, thinking maybe I wasn't getting good pills or something, but it always ended up being that it would either be too intense to remember (but still feeling really good), but still not being as good as the orgasmic roll I had at the halloween massive.
My average pill count per night is like 6 or so good pills (and never bunk pills)

I don't know what keeps happening. I am tired of experimenting and failing with this because you only get like 1 crack at it a month
I heard that there was like a sweet spot of like 125mg-200mg with MDMA, and after that it just gets too overstimulating to remember

Do you guys normally get really orgasmic rolls, or is that something you only get when you are starting out?

Or is it just that I keep dosing WAAY to much? They say pokeballs have around 80mg of MDMA in them, and if I dose with 5 of them in a night I always end up having a really great roll, but end up forgetting most of it (and most of the good feelings. With my Halloween massive experience, I can still completely remember the intense euphoria of the roll)

I know massives have that certain energy to them too so that could be part of it.

I'm getting the feeling that I'm probably taking way too much just by writing this, but what are your guys opinions on this?
 
a couple of points.

With mdma, more is not always better. Often less is more.

The second point is to check ouyt losing the magic in The Directory.
 
Like MazDan said... with MDMA, more is not always better. You shouldn't need to take 6 strong pills in one night to achieve a good roll, especially when you've only been rolling for a year and put a month in between rolls. I think, from the start, you should have stuck with what worked for you (3 pills) instead of trying to up your dose at each following event, which messed up your tolerance. E tolerance is a bitch, and it's something you want to tread lightly around, because for some people it never goes away. The general idea is to find your sweet spot (again, for you, this was 3 pills last Halloween) and stick to it for each roll. Inevitably, you might begin to need more to sustain your high if your tolerance is building, but that's when you up your dose -- and slowly. The way you did it, taking more and more each time regardless of whether or not you really needed to, fucked up your tolerance so 3 pills probably doesn't have you rolling very hard anymore.

My suggestion would be to take a long break from ecstasy and then come back to it, trying a lower dose. Like you said, you still have great rolls and a lot of euphoria from 6 pills, but the sheer amount you're taking is affecting how much of the night you can remember. The more MDMA that goes into your body in a single night, the worse your memory of the night will most likely be. I've been rolling for about a year and 4 months now, and I really hate how I don't remember as much of my night as I used to. But that's only on 200mg of molly (probably closer to 150-180mg in reality; it's an extremely clean, beautiful roll to the point of me being certain there aren't any noticeable adulterants like caffeine or speed, but I'm sure not entirely pure in terms of weight) and a smaller redose of about 100mg. I really think that once you pass a certain point with redosing, the effects just become more and more negative and you forget what made the night so special and euphoric.

That being said, you may have "lost the magic" from your use, and it's hard to say how long of a break you might need to get it back (if it will ever come back). If you feel you still reach an intense euphoria with your 6 pills but just can't remember the good feelings, for the memory part of the roll, you might want to look into Piracetam. A lot of users claim it makes their rolls more lucid and therefore clearer and easier to remember.

Also, you might want to take into consideration that, like with most drugs, the first few times are often the most memorable due to the novelty of it.
 
This post makes me sad... you really have to take that many pills? Cmon, you don't have to have all the euphoria from the pills... Usually just being so happy that you're alive and feeling good makes me feel even better. It's just like thinking about how good you feel, makes me feel even better...
You really don't want to fuck up the euphoria from E by taking so much... or fuck up your brain.
Why don't you just try doing other things to make the roll better? Hug people, dance, smoke, get a lightshow... or just MOVE! Moving anything makes me feel awesome. Like I'll just wiggle my fingers all over and it feels amazing. Same with touching things. Find something that is soft and feels really cool.

Don't take so much. I personally don't think I'll ever take more than one every roll. You shouldn't do anymore than 2 IMO.
 
Dude I know how its like to roll and I get really intense rolls.
The only thing I am missing is I got really mad euphoric rushes every couple of seconds at the halloween massive I went to last year, so I've been trying to recreate that setup, and I guess I got a little carried away in that aspect.

All of my rolls after the halloween massive were all good, but in a different sort of way. In all of the ones after halloween, I was rolling really intensly and the whole roll felt really good, but seemed too intense to remember particular aspects of it.


But I totally get what you guys are saying.
I think next time I roll I'll limit myself to 3 rolls max, and hopefully that will do the trick
 
i believe it would help tremendusly if you didnt try so hard
dont go out eating extra beans trying to recreate past expiereinces, just do what seems rational and when it happens youll feel way better about it

also ive noticed that beans tested for amp can get people really physically rolling
seems to me that purer beans only get me mentally rolling, but a speedy one gets me feeling orgasmic and my mind starts to explode
is it just me, or do true med-high dosed beans with a tad of amps give people a more physical and intenser roll??
 
So, you had a great experience with 3, and then you took 5 and you couldn't remember how good it was afterward ... so you upped your pill intake even more?

Does not compute.

Yes, you're taking too much. Less is more.
 
man i feel the same way as you, my 4th time rolling i got these really great pills and it felt like my brain was just exploding with euphoria, super head rushes. i still feel really good when i roll and get good pills but nothing will ever come close to that day and those pills. i got the same pills twice and both times i got intense head rushes. you might be trying to hard, ive noticed that lessens the roll. just try to get blown up and let your self go with the music, that seems to make me roll harder.

maybe well never get that same feeling again, but i hope it comes back. and i only roll maybe 2-3 times a year, so it is not tolerance.
 
my sweet spot with mdma is about 110mg. i think you are dosing too high.
another point is: get your pills tested. you won't get to that place with bad pills.
 
rollmeover said:
i believe it would help tremendusly if you didnt try so hard
dont go out eating extra beans trying to recreate past expiereinces, just do what seems rational and when it happens youll feel way better about it

also ive noticed that beans tested for amp can get people really physically rolling
seems to me that purer beans only get me mentally rolling, but a speedy one gets me feeling orgasmic and my mind starts to explode
is it just me, or do true med-high dosed beans with a tad of amps give people a more physical and intenser roll??
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yea dude that's like also exactly one of the reasons I just kept going with that many pills for like the past 6 raves I have been to, because half the battle is that you don't know what is in those pills.
Then on top of that, after my halloween massive roll, I started to learn about brain chemistry, and learned that those mad euphoric rushes I got weren't just related to serotonin, but also dopamine (and norepinephrine), which is mainly released by amphetamines (in addition to MDMA), so I thought maybe I got a small amount of meth in the pills I took at halloween, and that led to the perfect amount of chemicals in my body to lead to those euphoric rushes.
This led to a huge mindfuck for me, and ultimately led to me experimenting in a stupid fashion (doing like 6 pills a night, mixing up pills, etc.)



Pans-Advocate said:
So, you had a great experience with 3, and then you took 5 and you couldn't remember how good it was afterward ... so you upped your pill intake even more?

Does not compute.

Yes, you're taking too much. Less is more.
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Haha well since when are people who roll known for their rationallity?
But thanks to you guys I totally realize that I was being dumb.
I'm gonna try to preload with piracetam and take just 3 max at day 1 of EDC to see how it goes.
 
xtcbiz said:
yea dude that's like also exactly one of the reasons I just kept going with that many pills for like the past 6 raves I have been to, because half the battle is that you don't know what is in those pills.
Then on top of that, after my halloween massive roll, I started to learn about brain chemistry, and learned that those mad euphoric rushes I got weren't just related to serotonin, but also dopamine (and norepinephrine), which is mainly released by amphetamines (in addition to MDMA), so I thought maybe I got a small amount of meth in the pills I took at halloween, and that led to the perfect amount of chemicals in my body to lead to those euphoric rushes.
This led to a huge mindfuck for me, and ultimately led to me experimenting in a stupid fashion (doing like 6 pills a night, mixing up pills, etc.)
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The thing is, though, is that pokeballs are generally considered some of the cleanest stamps (along with the aliens) circulating today and it's doubtful they contained any meth or even speed in them, so you were chasing a clean MDxx high by mixing pills and taking too much. Maybe the purple alien had some amp, but the pokeballs you mentioned have tested clean. There may have been a 5:1 ratio of MDMA/caffeine in them, like the results on ecstasydata.org.

I think preloading with Piracetam daily before the event in a few weeks is a great idea. When was your last roll? To get the best out of the night, try and find some more pokeballs to roll on. There are new batches out in SoCal right now.
 
xtcbiz said:
so I thought maybe I got a small amount of meth in the pills I took at halloween, and that led to the perfect amount of chemicals in my body to lead to those euphoric rushes.
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it's rather the other way round.
 
In England, we have a very large binge culture (alcohol, smoking and drugs) So i go out to a club with my peers, and hear people saying yeah man i just triple dropped and i've already double dropped. And i just thinkg to myself "WHAT!" I'm so glad that through this site, i know i should only take 2-3 max, every 2-3 months, and that's what I do, and hopefully, it should always remain magical. I feel sorry for these people that dont.
 
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