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How much is in good pills

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I was just wondering how much MDMA or MDXX is in a good pill.
How much is in like a super pill?
Im wondering this more for reporting on pills, like if a pill has ?mg in it would it make it an 8 what would or should make a 10?8o
 
The rating scale is entirely subjective, so a 10 on my scale might be different to a 10 on your scale... but I would say that 100-120 milligrams of pure MDMA powder would put most people into a 10/10 state of mind :D

BigTrancer :)
 
Well the x-score family was 140mg, correct me if I'm wrong there.

And I would rate them as 1.5 times a good (7-8 ) pill.

But as BT said it all depends on tolerances and what not.
 
It also depends on what you constitute as a good pill... i know alot of people who think a good pill basicly amounts to a speed bomb :/

As BT said, generally anywhere upwards of 100mg of MDMA will be decent, with 120mg seeming to be the 'sweet' spot for most people. However some of the better pills to ever come out have been a mix of MDMA and MDA... 70mg of MDMA and 30mg of MDA will feel stronger than 100mg of MDMA, but is likely to be a bit trippy as well, so if you dont like that then you're better off sticking to MDMA
 
PS: I believe the figure of 140mg in the Microgram bulletin was an estimate, used to calculate the possible number of pills that could be produced from a x kilogram batch of pills. That figure would be broadly based on 2mg/kg dose referred to by many literature sources, notably A. Shulgin, and an average body weight of 70kg. Personally I don't think the "X-score" pills were equivalent to 140mg of MDMA powder in effects.

BigTrancer :)
 
Oh, so it was only an estimate. Sorry if I was peddling lies.

But I too agree with the MDA vs MDMA arguement. I much prefer a good MDMA pill, to a strong MDA pill.
 
I was about to say much the same thing BT. I would have thought they would have mentioned more stats in the data if it was a mean. Of course if that was an average, based by reported pill weight variations of 200-250mg (which in itself is poorly presented data) I would suspect some tablets could have contained more than 140mg.

I feel sure the MDA/MDMA mix would be a popular blend, but positive ID of MDA is rare and so would indicate otherwise. However, not only does such a mix explain many of the reported effects from some pills, but it also makes economical sense as depending upon setup, MDA can be easier to manufacture.

Guess we can only hope that microgram published papers one day become available as discrete documents so methods such as those used to come up with the figure of 140mg can be explained. Perhaps in some back issue somewhere, the guidelines for publications were established, but alas, unless we have a B/Ler who works for a forensics lab, there's fat chance of getting access to that.

I keep reminding myself... be thankful for what you've been given 8)
 
I would pretty much agree with what BT said in the beginning, though my opinion is just experience, backed up with little fact, I'd say the dosage for the average person would be as follows:

low - 50-60mg
average - 70-90mg
high - 90-120mg
very high - 120mg+

Obviously issues such as tolerance, brain chemistry, weight, and health are going to vary those figures, but I think they're a pretty fair generalisation. After recently eating some pills and finding out the level of MDxx, I've been able to compare experiences with previous pills, and concluded that most pills I've eaten were between the 'upper average' and the 'medium high' level. Basically, when a pill comes out that most people are rating 9/10, its most likely to be around the very high range.
 
it varies so much between people. but here are some examples of known quantitatively tested pills. those who have had these can use them to relatively gauge other pills:

pills known to have originated from "X-press" --> 140-240mg= strong. bring back the pills you have to eat in halves i say...

recent spate of UK pills (doves, hearts, etc) --> 125-150mg= very good. perhaps just the right amount per pill...

purple Mitsubishis/off white VW's --> allegedly 100-110mg= decent. i find pills comparable to these are good (not amazing), albeit shortlasting. often leave me wanting something more...

although anything under 100mg is in my opinion a weak dose (per pill), such a dose would still yield noticeable effects. recent literature on the subject i have read suggests that the active portion of a pill should constitute between 25-30% of the unitary weight. given the dose curve of MDMAm -approximately 50mg being a threshold dose- anything ranging from 100-150 could be construed as decent. anything above this is a bonus. imho anything below this level is just not up to par...

my .02 :)
 
^ Timmmmmy could you include some links for those quantitative test results please? Thanks BT :)
 
Bah, 60 - 70mg pills dont exist ;)

I pretty much based my thoughts on the ratings I got from mashead's reports on the white doves and pink hearts. I just compared my experiences with those and other pills I'd had, allowed for different scenarios, and made a estimatation on dose.
 
Heard a rumour that people in England in the town of Sheffield had consumed a batch of supermans that were known to have had in excess of 300 mg of MDMA in which it had caused some cases of seratonin pshycosis. Not 100% sure on that, but if what would happen if a person had indulged in too much MDMA in such a short amount of time?
 
^ TranceNation: it only takes a sec to confirm whether your rumour is true or false... www.google.com --> "sheffield superman" --> click first link.

Superman Killer Pill Alert in Sheffield by Jonty Adderley

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Harm reduction activists in Sheffield (Northern England) issued an alert this week about potentially deadly ecstasy pills containing MDMA and Moclobemide. The danger pills bear an S ‘Superman- style imprint, measure approximately 10mm X 4mm and have ‘an almost shiny coating,” said Robert Smith from the Dance Drugs Alliance.

“The pill has been identified to contain MDMA (50mg) and Moclobemide (80mg), and could cause serotonin syndrome and be potentially fatal,” he warned.
Click to expand...

BigTrancer :)
 
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