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how much good have I done myself by NOT shooting up?

Hiltoniano

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First off, I'm only posting this because I'm curious, and also I just want to know: how much damage/grief/problems have I saved myself by never using drugs intravenously? I have used methamp for a few month in a row last year (smoked n snorted), done opana and oxycodone as well as heroin (cheese form, yes i know its dumb) i also used to snort a lot of powder cocaine and drink.

And I try to eat healthy and exercise a lot, and I would say I am pretty healthy ( as told by a doctor and personal trainer on separate occasions). I'm not bragging or anything I just want the facts out there. So for some reason a lot of the times I was getting high on meth or coke or heroin, my friends would inject and I would use other ROAs, for no real reason other than I know of I inject it could be the end of me.

So so you guys think I have done myself a huge favor by staying off the needle? I'm not planning on shooting up or anything, just wanting to know if it was worth not getting nearly as high as all my friends so many times....?
 
Odd question.... nobody can really answer this for you as it's all speculation.. we have no idea what would have happened had you started IV'ing drugs.. I mean, chances are it wouldn't have been good, but still. I guess if you want an answer to your question, go and read the thousands of post in OD and TDS about how IV'ing has ruined peoples lives.. Most people who pick up the needle end up in a world of hurt... so the fact that you decided to not go that route is a good thing.

Nobody can say for sure how your life would be now had you started IV'ing but... chances are you'd be worse off. So, kudos. Ha

Edit: This is also more of a Drug Culture question about how IV'ing affects people lives so I'm going to move it over to DC.

OD----DC
 
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it's impossible to answer. a lot of people will say you're better off, but I'll make an interesting point anyways. a lot of people's use accelerates when they start injecting, some people keep going until they die, others are lucky and end up bottoming out and winding up in jail or rehab. I would personally prefer 6 months of hell that convinced me to get help as opposed to 10 years of a more mild progressive hell eventually leading to injecting, at which point I would be so far gone I wouldn't have much of a life to go back to if I did manage to get clean.

if you shoot up, you will always be a person who's shot up. there's a lot of mysticism and exaggeration surrounding it, but in my experience it can turn a drug you used occasionally into a drug you can't live without. so I guess the point I'm trying to make is if you shot up things could go one of 3 ways, you could decide you don't like it and never do it again, you could love it and go on a bender eventually hitting rock bottom and via a moment of clarity decide to get your shit together, or you could miss the rock bottom and shoot up until your heart stops beating and all that's left for your loved ones to remember you by is the wake of destruction you left behind. 4 if you count the possibility of dying the first time you try it. 3 is the most likely, and there isn't much you can do intellectually or otherwise to determine which of those outcomes happens to you.

so your better off not trying it, and try to keep a handle on your drug use. you can get just as strung out smoking meth as you would shooting it, and the logic of "at least I'm not shooting up" can be very dangerous. you're healthy right now, that doesn't mean you'll be healthy forever. all it takes is some external or internal force to push you over the edge.
 
Lots. I was fine doing drugs untill I started to IV. Creds to you for not doing it, I wish I never had. Most of us do I think.
 
of course you did your self a favor by not picking up the needle. ...
now how many problems you've saved yourself we can only imagine, it's speculation.
meditate on it
 
To the OP: makes you look like a genius. It shows you know enough to "draw the line" somewhere, and that is priceless wisdom an awful lot of people wish they had. IV drug use almost always leads to the depths of depravity, why go there unless you're into some really deep self loathing.
 
A good way to answer your question would have been to take a poll and ask the BL community how many of us regret ever picking up the needle... You'd find your answer pretty quickly as to whether abstaining from IV'ing was a good decision, when you see that probably 95% of us wish we never did it.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
A good way to answer your question would have been to take a poll and ask the BL community how many of us regret ever picking up the needle... You'd find your answer pretty quickly as to whether abstaining from IV'ing was a good decision, when you see that probably 95% of us wish we never did it.
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QFT, Mr Mackey was right, needles are bad, mmmkay.
 
I'm not sure that DC is the place for this discussion, but whatever...

I think that there's definitely something to be said for staying away from intravenous use, but, at the end of the day, never forget that you're still taking in the same substances as everyone else; in other words, you're no better character-wise, really, for staying away from the needle than someone who may have chosen not to [stay away from the needle] ... if that makes any sense.

It's also important to remember that not every intravenous user shares needles, reuses needles, is dirty, etc. So, in that respect, an intranasal user may be no better off in regards to his or her health than a conscientious IV-user. (shrugs) As for the idea that the needle leads straight down some road of depravity, well, I'm not sure that's the case. But, that being said and erring on the side of caution, I would still never recommend that one ever experiment with the intravenous ROA.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
A good way to answer your question would have been to take a poll and ask the BL community how many of us regret ever picking up the needle... You'd find your answer pretty quickly as to whether abstaining from IV'ing was a good decision, when you see that probably 95% of us wish we never did it.
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I am in that 5%, lol if anything I wish I had picked up the needle sooner. IVing really didnt make my H addiction any worse than it was snorting, it just made it more fun. WIthdrawal was the same, level of craving was just about the same. Maybe you crave the needle a little more but snorting is pretty instant to and when youre sick you just want dope regardless.

Aside from some damage to my veins, IVing didnt cause me any problems.
 
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I am in that 5%, lol if anything I wish I had picked up the needle sooner. IVing really didnt make my H addiction any worse than it was snorting, it just made it more fun. WIthdrawal was the same, level of craving was just about the same. Maybe you crave the needle a little more but snorting is pretty instant to and when youre sick you just want dope regardless.

Aside from some damage to my veins, IVing didnt cause me any problems.
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How long have you been IV'ing for?
 
Honestly, I'd say you've done yourself quite a favour. I can't speak from experience, because I've never shot up. But I have one or two friends that have. And they've told me straight up, it's nothing like you've ever experienced. And if it weren't for the whole process of acquiring needles and sterilizing equipment and micron filters and what not, they probably would have done it more. The main reason they didn't continue with the IVing is because once they did it, they told me about it (iunno I have that kind of "drug know-it-all" reputation with everybody, so everyone likes to tell/brag about their experiences to me). Once I started explaining shit more in depth and how to really do it safely (which I learned from sites like this and erowid), they said fuck it. It's not worth the hassle right now, nor the POSSIBLE bullshit that COULD happen down the road. Notice I formed that sentence in a way to say that not ALL people that IV go to the dark side, but shit, a good amount do. I know I will never IV. Why? I have an addictive personality. Maybe even more that most of my friends. And on top of that I'm all about efficiency. 100% bio availability? Shiiiiiit. I'd easily convince myself into IVing.

I've had enough problems with multiple drugs since I was 15 to know that to start IVing would be as close to a death sentence as I could get. Once again I must stress that I'm not hating on IV users at all. You do what you wanna do. I know my body and I know my mind. I wouldn't last.
 
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