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Bupe how long after being addicted suboxone can i start taking it again without rebound?

duneplanet

duneplanet

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i wanna start taking sub once a week cause it does give me a little relief from my benzo withdrawal. but ive only been off 3 weeks and im concerned it is too soon. what is a safe amount of time to wait so I can avoid getting rebound? I only plan on taking 1 mg. or less actually. thanks.
 
There is no such thing as being safe really. You may not get hooked again immediately but no addict can ever go back to being an occasional user without a severe risk of ending up right back where they were.

If you think you are somehow special and different than all the rest of us then go right ahead :). It is Russian roulette though.....
 
Ripamaru said:
There is no such thing as being safe really. You may not get hooked again immediately but no addict can ever go back to being an occasional user without a severe risk of ending up right back where they were.

If you think you are somehow special and different than all the rest of us then go right ahead :). It is Russian roulette though.....
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That's the truth. After prolonged abstinence, it would be possible to indulge occasionally and not risk physical dependence. But in my experience, after some clean time, even doing a little bit will re-ignite that taste for opiates, and you will without a doubt start using more and more frequently.

People who have been addicted in the past and succesfully kicked, very rarely are able to get high on opiates occasionally, without ending up right back where you started.

If you think you can conquer it, by all means give it a try, but it is my opinion that it has *bad news* written all over it. Using because it helps your 'benzo withdrawal' is just junky justification.. There are plenty of other things that will help your benzo withdrawal much better than opiates.

Tread carefully my friend, don't get sucked in again.
 
i know the deal guys but i feel like im in a nightmare and i dont really give a shit about opiate addiction right now. i have good reason not to get addicted again. sub withdrawal kicked my fucking ass cause i was detoxing from benzos and lyrica at the same time so i refuse to go thru it again. trust me ive been pretty strong i have like 3 months worth of sub and i havent touched it. i just wanna give myself a break once a week from this nightmare. im on phenibut now and ive been doign it once a week but i worry the phenibut will effect my recovery cause it effects gaba and i know sub def wouldnt effect it so id rather do that once a week. my question really is have i been off long enough to not get rebound from taking it. i know i could easily get addicted again but at this point im tired of feeling like hell all the time and i want relief. im aware that im an addict and i know the consequences but im at a point in my life where i dont care. i can do it without getting addicted because im so scared of suboxone withdrawal after the hell i went thru with it. i just want to know when is it safe to use it once in a while. i was told 3 months to a year but that seems a little too long. idk exactly
 
So to clarify you are asking purely about the physical effects of taking it then eh. If using will send you back into withdrawals. I'm not sure how long you have to wait until your brain re-acclimatizes itself such that using won't instantly set you back. I'd recommend something other than buprenorphine though. Why not try a low strength not so long acting drug like codeine instead.
 
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i dont really got any connects or anything right now but if ill prolly buy some codiene online if i find a way to do so. im very sensitive, 10 mg of codeine got me high as shit. so you can imagine how much fun im having with these withdrawals. thank god for phenibut, relief dont last long enough tho guys,,, i wish i could feel normal without drugs. i wanna be able to feel the pleasures of a normal man without drugs. but i cant.
"I dont want it
I just need it
to feel to breathe to know im alive"
 
Wow 10mg of codeine got you high? I didn't even know that was above threshold dose. Crazy. Just curious what your habit was before you got on suboxone?
 
i had no habit before suboxone i was occasionally using opiates and i told my doc i didnt wanna do it anymore so he gave me sub. i really wanted it for the benzo withdrawal. it helped a lot actually. i was feeling pretty good on 550 mg of lyrica and 2 mg of sub but now that the drugs are gone im really in the heat of benzo withdrawal. its actually worse than when i first came off and im 5 months off the benzos. could this be permanent? could i have damage from coming off the benzos too fast?
 
^When you come off benzos really fast, it does change your brain a bit. I wouldn't worry too much, just think of it as a bad experience that you went through and are recovering from. You should be making pretty good strides by now to get through the rebound (this is what you are experiencing, btw)... Just keep it up!

As for taking opiates now, I would certainly try to avoid addiction, but if you're going to use very rarely to feel better from the withdrawal, I don't really see the harm in it. I would do it myself as well. Avoiding addiction with buprenorphine is going to be kind of hard though, as the half-life is extremely long. I also recommend using something shorter acting like hydrocodone.
 
thanks man. i dont really have very many friends so ic ant really get drugs. i just saved up a bunch of shit that i was scripted. i think im gonna wait another week and then do the sub once a week.
 
Alright well now that I have a better idea about your habit and whatnot, I suppose taking a couple mgs of bupe once a week wouldn't be a horrible idea.. Obviously if it starts to become more frequent, thus resulting in addiction, that would be no good.. So if you can seriously keep it at once a week then alright. I would wait another week or so like you said if possible, then take a small bit of bupe.

Benzo withdrawal is a bitch, man. I cold turkeyed a rather large xanax habit a few years ago and my brain *still* doesn't feel right if I have no benzos. I legitimately need them for my various anxiety issues and insomnia, but having no insurance it is hard to afford seeing a psych on a regular basis so i am back and forth between having benzos, and having none.. i take 75mg methadone daily as well, which saved me from heroin addiction but I am getting fucking sick of it to be honest.
 
yea i legitimately need them too but my doc wont give them to me. so i just have to deal with it i guess. every doctor i talked to at the hospital said it would be over within a few weeks. thats a bunch of bullshit. that shit damages you when you come off man and im not right. i cant feel any pleasure from anything im so anxious its unbearable.. that shit is damaging man. its sad cause i was doing pretty damn well. when im on benzos i feel normal more or less but im stuck with a doc that works at a rehab who wont give me shit. im surprised he gave me lyrica when he did, tho he took it away. i really hope it isnt permanent man. i feel as bad as i did in acute withdrawal almost man. i mean not quite as bad becau7se im on a tiny but of gabapentin but still pretty bad man. i worry ill never be myself again.
 
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