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How have your efforts to taper/quit substances been like the Buddhist path?

CfZrx

CfZrx

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With the soon to be ban on kratom, I find myself looking to the teachings of Buddhism to provide support via the mindset of non-attachment. I am choosing to let go. Let go of the need to be as far from reality as I can reasonably be. Accept the limitations of my neck arthritis, the need to rest and to ice, and sometimes just feel the bit of pain that sneaks in the house that methadone built :)
 
i think a daily meditation practice helps to support a more balanced mind. so naturally the fruits of that is being able to make the choices you want to, without being influenced so much by unconscious impulses. there is more presence in the moment.
it is a gradual process of letting go, one that needs much self-compassion.
 
CfZrx said:
No, i typically just sit on my knees,shins and tops of feet. I sat at a buddhist session by my house, and there were zafus. Seems cool. Maybe you have influenced me to buy one? :)Thanks!
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Yeah, I bought several and remember, that I was not satisfied. But the 4th or 5th one has fit very well. Depending on your posture you need to try a few until you find the right one for you. I have one very hard one, that I never use, because I were not compatible with it.

Just saying. If you like those at your sessions, maybe invest in one of those. Pain is real. %)
 
Mysterie said:
i think a daily meditation practice helps to support a more balanced mind. so naturally the fruits of that is being able to make the choices you want to, without being influenced so much by unconscious impulses. there is more presence in the moment.
it is a gradual process of letting go, one that needs much self-compassion.
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Yes! And the letting go process can be hard to access, for me at least, and then BOOM, I start to just give in to the process. But you're right, it's gradual, because I find you can let go in chunks, first realizing you don't need to catch a buzz anymore, and eventually reaching a point where you don't even need the substance (kratom) anymore.
Ziiirp said:
Yeah, I bought several and remember, that I was not satisfied. But the 4th or 5th one has fit very well. Depending on your posture you need to try a few until you find the right one for you. I have one very hard one, that I never use, because I were not compatible with it.

Just saying. If you like those at your sessions, maybe invest in one of those. Pain is real. %)
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I will buy one for sure, if only to commit more deeply to the practice. Actually my neck pain is so severe, even on 15mg of methadone daily, that its pain signals limit the amount of time I can meditate, long before my lower extremities begin to ache. So far I last anywhere from 1 to 5 minutes, and my record is 30 minutes (when I went to the kendo session).
 
I have never been addicted to drugs, but I've been through horrible suffering. What meditation has taught me is that the observer, or the witness, is my true state, and whatever's happening is just the mask of the current drama. Mind and emotions change constantly, but that observer doesn't. It doesn't mean suffering ends but maybe it lets us sink into it a little bit, with a tiny piece of truth tucked away that is never affected by what's going on. It's a small piece, but it's probably the only piece worth having.

On the flipside, I've used meditation and Buddhism to avoid living the life I want, by practicing contentment and acceptance in total shyte situations that could be changed with just a bit of direct action. I find Buddhism a tad pacifist for this reason.
 
Haha! Foreigner, you're one of the only people who get through to me with the meditative insightful mumbo jumbo!

The obeserver. It's like a connection was made in my brain.

I think identifying "you" and "the mask of life and bullshite" is important in looking soberly at something.
 
Great, I guess that only leaves Canada if I would be in the position to order some. It's still sold in some European countries, but I think not for long.
 
Foreigner said:
I have never been addicted to drugs, but I've been through horrible suffering. What meditation has taught me is that the observer, or the witness, is my true state, and whatever's happening is just the mask of the current drama. Mind and emotions change constantly, but that observer doesn't. It doesn't mean suffering ends but maybe it lets us sink into it a little bit, with a tiny piece of truth tucked away that is never affected by what's going on. It's a small piece, but it's probably the only piece worth having.

On the flipside, I've used meditation and Buddhism to avoid living the life I want, by practicing contentment and acceptance in total shyte situations that could be changed with just a bit of direct action. I find Buddhism a tad pacifist for this reason.
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Yes I like what you say about the witness. I can see how meditation could keep one from making important moves and settling for shit conditions :)

Ninae said:
So is it getting banned in America too now?
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I guess it is after all the fun we had:(
Ninae said:
Great, I guess that only leaves Canada if I would be in the position to order some. It's still sold in some European countries, but I think not for long.
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Europe might just relax about a plant?
 
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