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Tryptamines How has 5-MeO-αMT not killed more people?

Mobin

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I see only 1 unconfirmed death from the drug with the most contraindications and very low dosage. I think αMT has killed more people and 5-IT killed a large handful. Any idea why such a dangerous drug seems less fatal than less potent drugs with fewer contraindications?
 
Frankly, probably because it’s not very popular. It’s also more actively psychedelic than AMT for instance and is probably in general more likely to be used for that than for its stimulant-empathogen effects comparatively, which might hold people back from pushing it too far I’d imagine. Just a guess about that though.
 
I wonder how many 5-meo blotters were sold back in the day though
 
Whatever the perspective today, I remember it being strongly and almost universally disliked back in the pre-Web Tryp era. I don't imagine that you'd sell much blotter without people becoming quite cranky with you.
 
Whatever the perspective today, I remember it being strongly and almost universally disliked back in the pre-Web Tryp era. I don't imagine that you'd sell much blotter without people becoming quite cranky with you.
I know this is a little off-topic, but as someone who wasn't even alive during the Web Tryp era I've always wondered what the RC scene was like considering people would have discussed it lots more openly back then. I'm also pretty curious if any/how many chems disappeared completely after Web Tryp, and how people reacted to it after it happened.
 
I'm also pretty curious if any/how many chems disappeared completely after Web Tryp, and how people reacted to it after it happened.

As far as i can see many, many new drugs popped up after Web tryp. Around 2000 the only substances that i have Seen being sold were shulgings creations and maybe 1 or two vendors selling 4-fa and iap. No benzos, no opioids, no dissos (apart from dxm) and absolutely no cathinones. Then came methylone and mdpv around 2004. Then mephedrene around 2008 and the rest is history.
 
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Yeah I would agree with @Kaleida . It was never very widely distributed nor was it popular even within the niche RC scene.

considering people would have discussed it lots more openly back then.
I think this is actually not true. The whole research chemical/designer drug "taboo" was much stronger back then. Even mentioning 2c-B could be enough to get labeled as an outcast in most circles. There were also even less online discussion groups back then.

These days, it's not extremely uncommon to be offered strange/exotic drugs, even in a public setting.

Overall I think the general public is more accepting of the fact that there are more drugs than just MDMA, LSD, and mushrooms, even if they're not interested in taking them.
 
I think this is actually not true. The whole research chemical/designer drug "taboo" was much stronger back then. Even mentioning 2c-B could be enough to get labeled as an outcast in most circles. There were also even less online discussion groups back then.
I was referring to how RC companies didn't use the pretense of "our products are totally only for scientific research" as much as they do today, definitely not the acceptance of RCs in polite company.
 
I was referring to how RC companies didn't use the pretense of "our products are totally only for scientific research" as much as they do today, definitely not the acceptance of RCs in polite company.
Ah in that case you may be right. The whole concept of "plant food" and "bath salts" really came into play after operation web tryp. Otherwise they were just referred to as research chemicals.

The analogue act was still a thing, but I don't think many took it seriously.

Fun fact, a friend of mine was personally friends with April Curtis, one of the vendors taken down by web tryp. She was under investigation, and sold to an undercover. That wasn't what took her down. During the sale she said something along the lines of "the rave kids eat this like candy" which implied human consumption.

After that, most vendors completely shut down. When the scene started up again, things were marketed differently.
 
And back to the original topic.. this same friend of mine was actually a huge fan of 5-meo-amt (he called it alpha-o).

He shared it with many people. Very few liked it, and 2 people had long lasting psychotic breaks from using it. One being his own son, who mistakenly thought the vial contained LSD.

It's one I've never taken and I don't care to.
 
I wonder how many 5-meo blotters were sold back in the day though
lots of people in my high school were selling 5meo-amt sugar cubes in the early 2000's... wickepedia says that an average dose is 4-7mgs.. i don't know how well that fits on blotter... wickededia says it was sold on blotter... i really have no idea how much blotter can actually absorb though. people on reddit make it seem like a tab can only hold a couple hundred UG. i dunno... i just know there were a lot of vendors on the net (not even dark web. you could just order with a credit card) and they'd sell powder if i remember my friend correctly.. i never even saw the 5meo-amt i ordered. it was just in a tiny container i gave my friend to put on some cubes. he put it in a syringe with liquid and dosed them on to cubes i think. he actually did it pretty unevenly, so i never really knew how much i actually took. all the cubes seemed different... the first time i tried, i kept dosing every couple hours for like 12-24 hours. most of the time wasn't much visuals, but when i left my friends house there was pretty defined clear flourescent moose with possums around their feet all over the road for a minute. i went home and tripped for like another whole day. my friend just didn't give me a big enough dose to start.

i'm pretty sure they were reporting more than 1 death because of 5meo-amt on the net a few years ago. i can't find the article if what i remember is real.. i thought there was a site saying there was like 5 deaths, that might've just been in america, but i'm not sure, could've been through out the world... i always thought it was just cause people misdosed and had panick attacks and that could happen on lsd or any drug, they just never reported, so that's why i ordered it and took a bunch letting some one who i shouldn't've even trusted dose the stuff... young and dumb, but i had a really good time with it and nothing bad happened... my experience with 5meo-amt i had less of a body load than most psychedelics i tried. i'd definitely try some if it were legal, but i'm reading it's actually toxic so maybe this isn't really a good drug and the body load is something i like from acid so i don't know why i wouldn't use that.. people use all sorts of toxic drugs though. i wouldn't really try it though if you are looking for less body load, i'm reading people report nausea and sickness the same as other drugs... i think my experience with it might be unique.
 
I wonder how many 5-meo blotters were sold back in the day though
i thought this read "how 5meo blotters were sold back in the day" and not "how many".. that's why my answer was the way it was... i just wanted to talk about how putting that on sugar was popular when i was in high school.... i've seen people selling unusual blotter on the dark web though.. i have no idea how popular that is. probably not very when if you're on that part of the net, you can just get some lsd.
 
Waiting to try alpha-0 also 2C-E and TMA-2. I have the delusion that if I'm careful enough with dosage nothing can go wrong. I bet 3.5 mg of 5-meo-amt could be great. Famous last words before Dougie Doozer jumps out from behind another windmill.
 
Waiting to try alpha-0 also 2C-E and TMA-2. I have the delusion that if I'm careful enough with dosage nothing can go wrong. I bet 3.5 mg of 5-meo-amt could be great. Famous last words before Dougie Doozer jumps out from behind another windmill.
With fentanyl being added to everything, at this point I would be very afraid to buy any pressed pill from a dark market. And I would never buy anything on the street. Most of the legitimate open internet RC stores went out of business. With plant-based psychedelics getting onto voting bulletins across US, I don't see much hope RC scene second coming. One thing I am sorry for is that I didn't try regular AMT while it was available.

Hell with it, if I can buy a legitimate Amanita Muscaria, I'll be a happy camper.
 
Waiting to try alpha-0 also 2C-E and TMA-2. I have the delusion that if I'm careful enough with dosage nothing can go wrong. I bet 3.5 mg of 5-meo-amt could be great. Famous last words before Dougie Doozer jumps out from behind another windmill.
Who the heck is man name of Dougie Doozer you rabble-rousing recidivist snapdragon!?
 
Waiting to try alpha-0 also 2C-E and TMA-2. I have the delusion that if I'm careful enough with dosage nothing can go wrong. I bet 3.5 mg of 5-meo-amt could be great. Famous last words before Dougie Doozer jumps out from behind another windmill.
I really like alpha-O at a festival setting at 2-2,5mg, with some tryptamine or 2c-d added around T+6h. Social, euphoric, fairly visual without being obnoxious. More than 2,5mg doesnt feel right for me.

I like 2c-e in any dose but haven't gone higher than 25mg and that was pretty intense. Zen master quality 😉
 
I see only 1 unconfirmed death from the drug with the most contraindications and very low dosage. I think αMT has killed more people and 5-IT killed a large handful. Any idea why such a dangerous drug seems less fatal than less potent drugs with fewer contraindications?
Probably because it's very difficult to test for those drugs specifically. They'll likely see a positive for amt or tryptamines and chalk it up to that, 99% of people performing these tests have never even heard of the drug anyway
 
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