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Benzos How do you tell the difference between a minor or incoming opioid vs benzo withdrawal

LucidSDreamr

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How do you tell the difference between a minor or incoming opioid vs benzo withdrawal

I was never dependent or at least severely dependent on Valium but there are times I would uses up to 3x a week then skip 1 to two weeks.

Methadone I was definitely hooked hard on….quit the daily use about 2 months ago and was fully clean for 1.5 months

I kicked methadonez. But for the last two weeks I dosed both drugs Valium and methadone 1X of the weeks separated by a week.

I’m now 1 week out and feel a minor withdrawl. No sleep, and tension and anxiety in the throat. Is this a methadone or benzo withdrawl?

I can say that benzo doesn’t seem to knock it out…maybe take off the edge but sleep is still very hard even with the benzo ….don’t try methadone again but from similar past patterns I’m confident that the methadone gets me totally well and allows sleep.

What’s going on here.? Am dependent on both or just methadone ? It’s more of kindling to give it an exact description.

I can deal with a million more opioid withdrawal but from the stories of benzos I feel I would be fucked forever. So this is why I’m scared.
 
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Bump. For the love of god can someone that has been addicted to both separately and withdrawn from both separately help me here?

I’ve asked this in the past but never got a straight answer
 
Hey bro, you'll be relieved to hear it's definitely minor opioid withdrawal. Plus that amount of Diazepam that used isn't nearly enough to send you into Benzo withdrawal even with your past history of abuse. Valium is a kinda weak benzo to begin with and those doses aren't very high that you was using.
 
ovo1024 said:
Hey bro, you'll be relieved to hear it's definitely minor opioid withdrawal. Plus that amount of Diazepam that used isn't nearly enough to send you into Benzo withdrawal even with your past history of abuse. Valium is a kinda weak benzo to begin with and those doses aren't very high that you was using.
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I disagree when it comes to MINOR benzo WD. It took me only four days of Alprazolam in low doses (plus pregabalin) to be on edge and unable to sleep - for one day and night only, mind you. That level is not scary though. And Tramadol cured it, too.
Then again Methadone is not only an opioid. It does other things as well which I don't remember now, so maybe Methadone WD looks like that also? 🤷 Never had any so I can't tell...
 
ovo1024 said:
Hey bro, you'll be relieved to hear it's definitely minor opioid withdrawal. Plus that amount of Diazepam that used isn't nearly enough to send you into Benzo withdrawal even with your past history of abuse. Valium is a kinda weak benzo to begin with and those doses aren't very high that you was using.
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Mushoku_Sensei said:
I disagree when it comes to MINOR benzo WD. It took me only four days of Alprazolam in low doses (plus pregabalin) to be on edge and unable to sleep - for one day and night only, mind you. That level is not scary though. And Tramadol cured it, too.
Then again Methadone is not only an opioid. It does other things as well which I don't remember now, so maybe Methadone WD looks like that also? 🤷 Never had any so I can't tell...
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Can anyone describe the difference in feelings and symptoms between a minor opioid withdrawal vs a minor benzo withdrawl.

@Mushoku_Sensei methadone withdrawl feels the same as any other opioid imo, just lasts longer. Also I’m surprised that little use of Xanax hooked you.

Many years ago before my Valium use I would use etizolam everyday for a month with zero withdrawl. Did the same with lorazepam and Xanax too.
Also used pregabalin daily for 25 years and zero withdrawals. Valium concerns me because it’s such a long acting benzo so even ones session is kind of like being on it for days.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
Can anyone describe the difference in feelings and symptoms between a minor opioid withdrawal vs a minor benzo withdrawl.

@Mushoku_Sensei methadone withdrawl feels the same as any other opioid imo, just lasts longer. Also I’m surprised that little use of Xanax hooked you.

Many years ago before my Valium use I would use etizolam everyday for a month with zero withdrawl. Did the same with lorazepam and Xanax too.
Also used pregabalin daily for 25 years and zero withdrawals. Valium concerns me because it’s such a long acting benzo so even ones session is kind of like being on it for days.
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I don't think it hooked me really. And maybe it was also due to me taking zolpidem for sleep before a bit too often. In any case I found it very fast to lose effects, and obviously my system is very quickly adjusting. I suppose with regular use I'd have to raise doses every week or even faster. Don't want to go there so I'm spacing even the tiny doses very strictly now.

As for opioid WD it's FREEZING and being tired af, if it's bad like H I could sit in front of the heater still feeling cold to the bone. Sweating cold so I could wring out my nightdress literally. And be hardly able to get up or get anything done. I'd want to stay in bed and sleep for days. Never made me unable to sleep though
PS: Minor is everything less in that direction: sweating, especially at night. Feeling tired and cold.
 
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Mushoku_Sensei said:
As for opioid WD it's FREEZING and being tired af, if it's bad like H I could sit in front of the heater still feeling cold to the bone. Sweating cold so I could wring out my nightdress literally. And be hardly able to get up or get anything done. I'd want to stay in bed and sleep for days. Never made me unable to sleep though
PS: Minor is everything less in that direction: sweating, especially at night. Feeling tired and cold.
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Weird I don’t get the cold and hot flashes unless it’s severe. And the tired feeling I get as the first symptom in minor withdrawal…but also I’m tired but physically feel overdosed with caffeine. Sleep is absolutely impossible. In a severe withdrawal I won’t sleep for 4 days straight or so.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
Weird I don’t get the cold and hot flashes unless it’s severe. And the tired feeling I get as the first symptom in minor withdrawal…but also I’m tired but physically feel overdosed with caffeine. Sleep is absolutely impossible. In a severe withdrawal I won’t sleep for 4 days straight or so.
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You feel overdosed with caffeine and tired at the same time? That's weird for me but everyone is different... sweating while feeling cold is the first thing I get...
 
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