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How did psychedelics affect your beliefs and how happy are you???

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How did psychedelics affect your beliefs about god and how happy are you???

Im not really good with words so i will try to explain this as best as i can...

Im interested in how different people's beliefs about god and religion and stuff was affected by psychedelics??? How would you compare your beliefs to before you started doing psychedelics to after you started??? What were your beliefs before and after???

And also i would like to know if you are generally happy in your life because of psychedelics and if your not happy then did psychedelics cause that unhappiness???

I would really appreciate some responses for this thread or anything related to the topics i mentioned!!!

Thanks :)
 
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Psychedelics helped me to unblock many aspects of myself so that the stronger aspects of my creativity and intelligence could shine through, and they also enhanced novelty in my life greatly so that I could examine many different things from a new perspective.

I wouldn't say that psychedelics made me more spiritual, they just showed me the magnificence of what was already present within me.

More or less happy? Probably a bit from both columns. Psychs helped me to get more in touch with myself, but have simultaneously let me see with a kind of hyper-awareness what isn't right about the world and society which can make it tough to cope with. They've probably made me become a bit more out of phase with rest of mundane reality which makes it harder to integrate with the every day human world, but that hasn't been a bad thing. I've always been a bit of an outsider and now I can at least appreciate why.
 
I can't get into this. I wouldn't have grown into the spiritual person I am, a lesser one, and ultimately am more happy. I just love the Universe, and It does you too. Nothing else matters in the bigger picture...
 
I wasn't really changed much by psychedelics but it's probably because I was already addicted to benzodiazepines when I took them. I was more changed by my early dissociative experiences, but dissociatives were still more of catalysts than triggers. Anyway, a few months ago I began meditating and I've noticed that deep meditation is similar in many aspect to psychedelic experiences, it's much easier to control though. I started accepting myself the way I am thanks to introspection, not only accepting but actually valuing myself for who I am.

I was raised in a Catholic family, however, I've always sensed that there is something fundamentally wrong with the religion as well as many other religions with God or gods. For many years I felt guilty in some way for not accepting my own religion. I wasn't fully aware at that time it was never really my religion, although it's quite obvious - I've never chosen it so how could I be a part of this by force? I didn't agree with it and I felt some kind of a guilt because of that. I've come to consciously realise that religion is simply a way of manipulating masses, it's a way of controlling people by making them feel fear of the unknown and guilt for not abiding the universal laws, which are not universal at all but simply human-made. And they were made so that masses stop at a certain point of growing up and stay there.

I used to be in a prison for years, not only because of religion, but also after I fell in love with a girl when I was 14 and she didn't reciprocate my feelings. Soon I began feeling ashamed of my feelings as if I was not worthy of being loved. I thought something was wrong with me because at the age of 14 I felt I needed a deep relationship with a girl. I began thinking that everyone around me was against me. Meanwhile I got addicted to opioids and benzodiazepines, and methadone and clonazepam only worsened it all. When I quit methadone and then clonazepam, I felt as if I was registering everything on too many levels at the same time. I was so numbed for years that I thought I would explode once I freed myself. I ended up with many wrong conclusions and I lived according to them for so long that I still can't overcome the feeling of shame when I feel I get strongly bound emotionally to a woman, although I'm fully aware it's the opposite of what I should be feeling and doing.

Anyway, I can feel more and more free since I quit benzodiazepines and the breaking point was also one DXM experience, before that I only felt physically free, however I still didn't know why I was still not satisfied with my life, I couldn't accept my strong needs for affection yet. I actually often used to feel worse than the others because I couldn't fit into the society. I don't really like to dominate other people, I perceive everyone as equal as long as they have respect one for another. In our society you either have to be a top dog or you have to conform to some extent. I could never conform because I felt it was wrong and against myself, but I also didn't really want to be a top dog and tell others what they should do. I think everyone should know himself/herself what he/she should do. Unfortunately, when you don't fit into the society, it's almost always equal to loneliness. I'm an introvert, but at the same time I can be the life and soul of the party if I'm surrounded by friends that I don't have. I used to dream about meeting a girl thinking for herself as I did and not caring about fitting either. A few times I thought I did, but I was wrong. Now I know I don't fit at all and I don't want to fit any more, because that's not what would make me happy anyway.
 
All interesting replies!!!

Lemme just add by saying how drugs affected me in that regard...

Not really that experienced with psychedelics but i noticed that when i started experimenting with them i started feeling really depressed which caused me to look at life in a negative way.

The topic of god and death popped into my head more often than it use to and i kept questioning if gods real or not or if thers life after death and i started thinking about how everybody is eventually gonna die and thers no point in living.

These thoughts bothered me way more than before i did drugs and i started wondering if i ever really thought about this stuff before??? cuz the negative feelings seemed so real and so a part of me that i felt like i couldnt have thought of this stuff before cuz wouldnt i have been depressed then as well???

I realized later that during the time i started getting into psychedelics i was recovering from using a lot of mdma a few weeks before so my serotonin and all that was all fucked up while i took psychedelics and they just made it worse which is why i believe i had such a negative experience.

But that experience taught me a lot about happiness. How it is so much better to be happy all the time rather than REALLY happy for only a few hours or so. Taking drugs is just not worth it. And psychedelics are a risky game when it comes to the mind and i decided to not take that risk.

Even if psychedelics would benefit me i still wouldnt take em just cuz of the fact that it changes people and helps them find out the secrets of the universe or whatever and expects them to live a normal life after that experience. I like the way my life is rite now and honestly i am the happiest i have proly ever been in my life sober. I would not want to risk ruining or changing that with the power that psychedelics has.

To answer my own question i dont think my short psychedelic experience affected my belief of god but after quitting all drugs i have tried to get closer with god cuz, and i know this might sound crazy, but the night i decided to quit drugs i feel like god was ther. and not just cuz of the fact that i was on ecstasy but ther were signs before i took the ecstasy pill. other people will call em coincidences but i believe they were signs telling me not to because i was trying to decide if i should take it or not.

I am glad to say i have fully recovered from the mdma depression madness intensified by shrooms and dxm and am pretty happy with my life at the moment. Those thoughts of death dont bother as much and are easier not to think about. I think about god everyday and still question his existence to be honest but i always seem to have hope and i think to myself with all this complexity of the universe and the idea of different dimensions how can there not be a god?

...And i would like to add something somewhat off topic but just to express...

I think its kinda dumb how people say that because weed is natural its a gift from god and thers nothing wrong with it but think about it why would god give you something that decreases motivation, drive and cognitive thinking??? whos to say its not the work of the devil???

Thanks for reading :) ...and sorry if i offended anyone religiously with my catholic/christian notions of god&satan stuff
 
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They didn't really. I'm not a big psycheldelic fan,maybe because I've always been into opiate's/benzo's/and amphetimines every now and agian for a night of fun. Although there are some I wanna try such as DOC, LSZ and the other analoug'es of that and Mescaline..so far my experince has been with DXM(a dissoitive I know, but it was unpleasant made me really itchy and things were wierd but not in a fun way) Mushrooms, but they make me so sick I never can really enjoy them, and I tried Morning Glory seeds, which were mild, but pleasnat except for the vomiting which kinda ruined it...
 
psychedelics - i have had some experiances i otherwise would not have had.

Dissociatives have helped me 10x more though.

I need to do more lsd though. i have had the chance, just, haven't tripped in so long because i will when i want to
 
They made me happy during times in my life when I desperately needed it. I stopped doing psychedelics because I felt diminishing returns and for a period of a couple years did not have the time to do them. Going back to them was difficult and I have sort of given up on tripping at this point in my life. I feel like I need to get into a stable place in life before being able to appreciate them properly like I initially could.

Short timeline:

~18: first trips, mgs, mush
19-20: lots and lots of trips, loved almost all of them
21: few trips, diminishing returns
22-23: no trips
23-24: a couple good trips, a few bad ones, "unsuccessful return" on the whole.

My last trip was over 2 years ago now. Other than the random DMT craving I don't think about tripping much.

Also agree with foreigners post overall about effects on cognition.
 
To keep it brief: in highschool I thought I was on the tail of figuring it all out and moving away from religion, after graduation and maturation I 'woke up' and found my spirituality. Now I'll always be connected with the Universe, so while times may get hard, there's that foundation to keep me up.

And dont over do psychcs, you must respect the teacher or there will be punishment (negative aspects of overuse, etc.). They'll tell you what you need to hear for sure, how you interpret that, be my guest.
 
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