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Everyone talks about how bad PMA is, especially if you get it in your pills.

I'm just wondering: how bad is it really? I mean, if you take one pill that has PMA in it, will you suddenly drop dead (an exaggeration, I know) or just have a bad roll?

I ask because I am getting some pills soon, and since PMA seems to be pretty common, and I don't have the money for a tester (the pills are a gift, I'm about to lose my apartment thanks to my job randomly cutting back on enmployees). I do plan to extensively research the pill before I take it, however.

So, once more: how bad is PMA?
 
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Not really.. I'd say keep it here.. it's a general question about what could be in your E... www.erowid.org <-- check that out.. it's a pretty groovy site.. and you'll find all you need to know about PMA and pretty much everything about any drug.

Yeah.. Never can be to careful..

SAFE ROLLIN

-Derwood
 
very bad. much stronger than mdma and easy to overdose. can be fatal. if you find any pill to have pma in it, throw it out.
 
if you take one pill that has PMA in it, will you suddenly drop dead
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It's unlikely. On the other hand, if you've built up a tolerance to MDMA and take 2-3 pills of PMA expecting it to be MDMA, then you're probably in real danger. The first time there was a widespread release of PMA pills 20+ deaths were reported.

Some people actually report enjoying PMA at the right dose; the problem is that it seems to be unusually hard on the cardiovascular system, so there's considerably less safety margin between a 'recreational' dose and a dangerous one.

PMA seems to be pretty common
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That doesn't seem to be the case. The stuff shows up once in a while, but it's bad business to sell PMA...especially at the wholesale level, where you meet the sort of people who may be inclined to kill people who rip them off.
 
DEA, one pill messes me up very well. I took a year break (Which is also the reason I don't have the chemicals for my tester) and I will not double drop. I'm a very small girl and sensitive to MDxx. One does me fine. Hehe

So if I get a pill and it has PMA in it, and just take one, I'm not to be in major danger?
 
I wouldnt do it. Theyre terribly strong and If one does you enough. Thatll do you over.

PMA is not too common as you may think. If you REALLY want to know get a tester kit.
 
Considering I'm about to lose my place to live, spending money on a tester isn't high on my list (my dealer and I are very close, and he's seen how upset/stressed I've been, so he's taking mercy on me and is giving me this one for free).

I'm not wanting to take PMA, but we can't exactly decide what gets put into our pills. I just wanted to know...just in case.
 
So if I get a pill and it has PMA in it, and just take one, I'm not to be in major danger?
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I wouldn't believe so. Of course, if you have good reason to believe a pill contains PMA, the best thing to do would probably be to throw it out.
 
some friends and myself got ahold of some straight pma pills and he ate one and got sick, but if u break atiny peice of and crush it and do a small rail the effects can be quite stimulating, but becareful that shit can be toxic...
 
There have been quite a number of PMA deaths in Australia.

If you have any suspicion that it may be in your pill then I would not be even thinking about taking it.
 
Why doesn't you're dealer shell out the money for a tester if you and him are so close. That way he can test the whole batch before he gives you one.
 
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Some people actually report enjoying PMA at the right dose; the problem is that it seems to be unusually hard on the cardiovascular system, so there's considerably less safety margin between a 'recreational' dose and a dangerous one.
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even if the effects can be 'enjoyable' i still wouldn't want to take a chemical that can potential be toxic and fatal. even at small doses theres no way it can be good for you.
 
Look at the dosage stats of each of the chemicals and you weigh it up.... a common dosage is about 60mg for PMA... anything more than that and you're headed into dangerous territory.

It's not a chem i'd really bother messing around with. There are plenty more chemicals with simmilar properties to mdma/mda/amphetamines without the same risks
 
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PMA has a very steep dosage curve . A couple mg below the threshold and you wont feel much but a few mg above and you get serotonin syndrome. If you do get the right dosage however , some people who had PMA describe it as the best ecstacy they ever had.


the problem with this is that you cant possibly know how much pma is in the pill.



but it seems like you are assuming the worst, look up your pill on pillreports and see what others are saying about it + ask your dealer if he knows anything about them.
 
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I'm not wanting to take PMA, but we can't exactly decide what gets put into our pills. I just wanted to know...just in case.
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What kind of pill is it exactly? It seems like youre dead set on it containing PMA. Pillreports has 80% of the time had the pill I was looking for on there with results. And the other 20% I threw it on and got replies.

That would probably be the best thing for you.
 
PMA is deadly mixed with MDMA. Most PMA deaths were related to MDMA, esp;ecially taking it on the MDMA comedown, or as DEA said above, taking mul;itple pills either because you normally double drop or whatever now, or you're waiting too long for the effects rto kick in and think theyre fake.. First alerts of PMA start around the same time as MDMA, but it takes well over an hour, upto 2 hours to feel the peak effects, sometimes longer. Meaning people will keep dropping them.

There has been more deaths from PMA (mostly capsules sold as "black deaths" or "dr deaths". but a fair majority sold as pressed pills as well) in one state of Australia (S.A.) than anywhere else in the world. The last knonw PMA death was a young girl in Australia this year, who bought capsules for her "come down" dose after consuming real MDMA pills at a dance party. They took the capsules before heading home. Most people crashed out, they had all taken the PMA caps, but they all survived except her, who woke them all up thrashing around on the ground making noises. She died that day I believe, from what her mother described as "frying from the insides" You can watch the video here:

PMA Death ABC 7:30 report (Links on the first post)

EDIT: The high quality one appears to have glitches, so download this medium quality one at only 13MB. It's fine for viewing. Medium Quality Video (Right click link, and press Save (Target) As)

It is interesting to know, that because of how slow lab testing is, the head police commander of NSW admitted basically her life could of been saved if there were media releases of PMA CAPS and PILLS circulating Sydney! Everyone give it a watch.
 
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Well, I never take more than one pill; if I think it's a dud, I don't redrop, I just take it as it is and try another day.

I don't have the pill yet, per-se, I just...I dunno, for some reason I have the strongest, strangest feeling I will get a PMA pill, which is odd because my dealer always gets very decently clean pills.
 
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