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heroin w/d

madskilz

madskilz

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i have been banging black tar for weeks and ran out- slept for about five days strait, now i am very awake and very kicking

a homeie might bring overf some junk bhut i doubt he will, ya never know

im trying to get into a clean and sobber place here in a week or two but today has been a trial..

peez
 
madskilz said:
did i post it in the right place? the dark side?
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Yes this is a good place to start.

Do you have access to benzos/antihistamines? These will help reduce anxiety, twitches, hot/cold flashes, and also help with getting to sleep.

I would focus on drinking enough water, eat anything you can stomach, and try not to let anxiety and depression take over; stay positive. :)

A lot of us have been in heroin withdrawal, and while it feels like the end of the world, it isn't.
 
Thanks guys, Captain Heroin, Overdone, Oliphill..

I probably should have specified, but I have actually kicked many times before, and know exactly what to expect and how to minimize the pain..but decided I would vent and tell the DS about my current dillemma.

I have an appointment to move in to a clean and sober place in one week, it is a good place with good support, the people are actually clean, and its affordable... so I'm excited. Thing is though, I have to pass a drug test for the coming week. So, as much as I would like benzoes and antihistimines and anti diarrheal etc. I just cant, gotta grin and bear it. Traditionally, marijuana has been the best help for me during a kick. Since thats off the menu for the drug test coming up, I have plans tomorrow to swing by a smoke shop and get a nice sized bag of 'spice' (jwh-018) or whatever it is. (K2?)
I'm sure it doesn't hold a candle to real weed, but I have heard from more than one person who is on opiate maintenance that needs to pass drug tests, that it gets them stoned, they like it just fine, and they pass their drug tests. I could stand to do some more research on spice, but Im assuming (and hoping) that it has the same physiological affects that I so benefit from when kicking (settles the stomach, settles the bowels, settles the shaking of the body and mind, and maybe helps sleep.

Perhaps I'll search about spice,k2 etc. etc. and find out more about it. Nothing I read will probably deter me from getting it though ;)

Here is a link I made to a community thread reaching out to other sober people in Seattle, Washington- http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=9320025#post9320025

Thanks again guys, have a nice day! :D
 
ask your doctor for clonidine.. it helps a lot and it wont affect your drug test.
 
.Lucid. said:
ask your doctor for clonidine.. it helps a lot and it wont affect your drug test.
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I'm running out of clinics to get 'kick kits' from!!! :D

usually they give klonopin and clonodine..
if they're assholes they give you trazadone instead of klonopin

only one place had given me stuff called bentyl, (on top of the others) which was quite handy for bowel and bladder discomfort, i recommend anyone ask for it if they get a kick kit. probably not as good as marijuana, but still good.

a friend went in and described back pain and got flexeril (which didn't work for me!!!), and one kid who had private insureance actually got 120 oxycodone fives to taper down (I'd like to see one addict that could make that one work)
 
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Wow that link you posted overdone is INSANE.
I didn't check out all the other links but I never realized the sheer amount of useful information we have on this site. I mean that entire thread is loaded too. Its not just the first post but the second page is even better imo.

OD if you have any other particular favorite links please feel free to post more. That had to be one of the best reads I've ever seen on BL about wd. Especially some of the loperamide dicussions, I thought I knew everything there was to know about wd but that thread really puts my intellect to shame.
 
OverDone said:
Bo, you're right about the extensive amount of info and knowledge. I only wish it was all consolidated and boxed up into neat little categories but, sigh, it is what it is. I've been wanting to organize/categorize a bunch of similar threads but have never gotten around to it.

A respected and knowledgeable BL'er who has since passed (named Phreex) put the below information together. There are a bunch more but, once again, I just haven't found the time to dig around

Guide To Narcotic Withdrawal
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that 'guide' is a bunch of phooey IMO.
 
I think the fact you started withdrawing 5 days after you stopped heroin is also "phooey" but I chose to keep that to myself out of something called respect.

My point being, never knock something you haven't actually tried. Granted that second guide is a bit weak, but if you're kicking and refuse to at minimum take some imodium then enjoy shitting yourself silly for the next week just because you think something phooey.

Not trying to be rude but lets be real, you're the one who came here for help right?
What would you prefer we do? Give you a pep talk instead?
 
Bojangles69 said:
I think the fact you started withdrawing 5 days after you stopped heroin is also "phooey" but I chose to keep that to myself out of something called respect.

My point being, never knock something you haven't actually tried. Granted that second guide is a bit weak, but if you're kicking and refuse to at minimum take some imodium then enjoy shitting yourself silly for the next week just because you think something phooey.

Not trying to be rude but lets be real, you're the one who came here for help right?
What would you prefer we do? Give you a pep talk instead?
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I appreciate your honesty. The thread was for shits and giggles (get it shits?), ive withdrawn many times..

Imodium is good if you need it, but calling it OTC methadone, and claiming that following the guide withdrawl can be made "virtually pain free" is fucked up.

Sorry about the slept for five days thing, I had been on a week meth and dope simultaneous bender, and mostly slept for three days strait before my body woke up and started kicking..

Proud to say however that I have been accepted into a real nice sober house as of this morning. I'll see you guys around then yeah?
 
Good for you bro I'd give my left nut right now to have a sober house to go to.

Thats gotta be a good feeling regardless of how shitty you're feeling right now. Hope can really be infectious sometimes, take advantage of the crap in everyway you can.

This whole lifestyle is played out, drugs are played out, sobrieties hard as fuck but never as hard as living on drugs your whole life. Keep your chin up and walk into that house with your chest out. Take that monkey from your back, body slam him on the floor, kick him in the face a few times, then when hes dead kick him a few more times for good measure lol.

Seriously man good luck, you don't sound like an idiot. You adapted pretty quickly to my response, showed respect, and that tells me your a good person and deserve to whatever it is you want from life. Keep us updated whenever you get the chance, and definitely hope to see you around bro.

take care - Bo
 
Bojangles69 said:
Good for you bro I'd give my left nut right now to have a sober house to go to.

Thats gotta be a good feeling regardless of how shitty you're feeling right now. Hope can really be infectious sometimes, take advantage of the crap in everyway you can.

This whole lifestyle is played out, drugs are played out, sobrieties hard as fuck but never as hard as living on drugs your whole life. Keep your chin up and walk into that house with your chest out. Take that monkey from your back, body slam him on the floor, kick him in the face a few times, then when hes dead kick him a few more times for good measure lol.

Seriously man good luck, you don't sound like an idiot. You adapted pretty quickly to my response, showed respect, and that tells me your a good person and deserve to whatever it is you want from life. Keep us updated whenever you get the chance, and definitely hope to see you around bro.

take care - Bo
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woooooord, It is in a sick part of town walking distance to tons of meetings and such, thanks for being cool man, ciao!
 
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