Heroin Heroin rock

[xlaceyy]

Are there any extra steps one must take to inject heroin when it comes in a rock form?

Or can you simply shave it into powder and proceed from there

 

[bennoculus]

That sounds about right. I've had heroin in rock form a lot and it's not different.

I find that putting cellophane over the rock and holding it down, then pounding with a lighter be an effective method. Especially with cocaine, as it seems to have less of the powder stick to it.

 

[blasphemy000]

I get raw heroin sometimes and it always comes in rock form. It's just like powdered heroin and can be crushed down into powder, mixed up, and shot.

 

[Sorce]

shaving/smashing it will probably lose you some of it, i would just toss it in the spoon with water and heat (for IV of course)

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^that's a GREAT way to introduce the insoluble cuts into your shot! Heroin is very water soluble so there is no reason to heat powder heroin for injection.

I imagine it breaks up very easily so choose your desired method to crush it and use as you normally would.

 

[TheLostBoys]

^that's a GREAT way to introduce the insoluble cuts into your shot! Heroin is very water soluble so there is no reason to heat powder heroin for injection.

I imagine it breaks up very easily so choose your desired method to crush it and use as you normally would.

Ive never shot anything but all that cooking they I see in the movies is not entirely true? You wrote above that theres no reason to heat up powdered heroin.

 

[king bee]

if the solution looks cloudy or milky at all, after stirring... you should definately apply heat until it clears up! the cut burns right off.

black, brown, or clearish, no heat.

 

[BrokedownPalace]

Heroin is very soluble in water.. There is absolutely no reason to heat heroin for injection. All it is doing is making more semi-insoluble cuts dissolve and getting more shit into your shot that you don't need.

Heroin should dissolve very easily with just a little stirring, in water. I have never once in my life heated a solution prior to injection.

 

[comatoserct]

Rocked heroin is the only kind I get. Usually I just use the plunger to break it up but there have been 7-8 times I've gotten stuff so hard you literally have to boil it for a little bit so it can be soft enough to break down

 

[dokomo]

Ive never shot anything but all that cooking they I see in the movies is not entirely true? You wrote above that theres no reason to heat up powdered heroin.

Not true at all, especially when it comes to pills and powdered heroin. Everyone sees this on TV and does it, when in reality (as cane said) it doesn't help with solubility and doesn't make the shot any safer in terms of bacteria in the water.

Heating makes all sorts of other nasty things dissolve into water that normally would remain solid, causing all sorts of problems inside the body.

 

[Sorce]

meh, you are probably right but the stuff i get is relatively pure (obviously it still is cut) and i always get better results with a little heat

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^ So despite heroin being READILY soluble in water, magically your "relatively pure" heroin isn't and requires heat?

I'm guessing you make the same mistake many do... you see some of it not dissolve, worry you're losing out to so heat it and make it all dissolve and this allays your anxiety of losing some of it so you think its stronger.

Its not and its considerably more harmful.

 

[benjyman]

The H that was brought in to the south west of the UK was always in rock form when it reached the user, it was H in the base form with other cuts averaging 30% purity.

The lump was always placed in the cooker and vitc or citric acid added with a small portion of water, heat and stirring led to the product dissolving into solution, yes it may have been better practice to use less heat and smaller amounts of acid, but many addicts think that if anything remains in the cooker they are loosing product.

There are video's on youtube stating that if an excess of acid is used with to much heat the H is partially broken down into morphine and monoacetylmorphine, and it is ok to leave small deposits in the cooker.

The heating process is used by addicts in an attempt to sterilize the shot and get everything to disolve..

best practice is to use a very small amount of acid and minimal heat, do the shot and then if deposits are left maybe hit it again with more water and tiny more acid, thus avoiding breaking down to much H.

 

[DeLee]

^that's a GREAT way to introduce the insoluble cuts into your shot! Heroin is very water soluble so there is no reason to heat powder heroin for injection.

I imagine it breaks up very easily so choose your desired method to crush it and use as you normally would.

We have either brown heroin och white heroin here in Sweden (no tar, never heard of it here)
So i guess our heroin come from middle-east or asia.

Anyway the brown heroin powder you need to add a small amount of citric acid to it and everyone here atleast adds some heat to it.

White powder on the other hand you can just dissolve and filter because it dissolves right away.

And I have also encountered Rock form Heroin, and once again no Tar heroin but I would def class it to the whiter forms of heroin though it was kind of yellow/sandy in color but it was one of the best batches of heroin ive ever done. (It came from Copenhagen | Denmark by the way)

 

[dokomo]

^You do need to heat the mixture of citric acid and brown heroin to catalyze the chemical reaction (turning the heroin from base to salt form.) This is the only time that heat is actually needed.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^Thank you for clarifying, in my typical ethnocentric American fashion, I was assuming we were talking about #4.

Sorry rest of the world :D

 

['medicine cabinet']

id take a razor blade to it myself. cut slow thou bc sometimes they rock it so hard the piece will literally shoot off from the pressure. i usually try and shave it down and sooner or later you like run into a fault line for lack of a better word where it breaks a little easier

 

[Captain.Heroin]

if the solution looks cloudy or milky at all, after stirring... you should definately apply heat until it clears up! the cut burns right off.

black, brown, or clearish, no heat.

Wrong. You need to filter. Heating the shot doesn't help out at all, it actually encourages insolubles like corn starch to become water soluble.

 

[Warm'nFuzzy]

^like california