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heroin questions

dragonfog019

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ok, i am probably going to be trying heroin, and i've read up on it, but i still have a few questions...
i think i'm going to snort it (thought about iv, but don't know anyone with experience in it and don't want to do it without someone to help me). anyway, for my first time, how much should i snort? i'm a 115lb female, and although i've done a number of painkillers, i don't think i should have much of an opiate tolerance.
also, does anyone know how much should be in a stamp bag? or does it vary, depending on things like quality?
any advice for my first time?
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~poe
"all who wander are not lost."
 
cut up an average sized (10cm)line.do half of it,wait 10 or 15 mins,see how you feel,then if need be do the other half,simple.this way you can guage how much you need.
 
"any advice for my first time?"
Just be sure you want to take that step and start using a potentially dangerous drug. Other than that, keep something close to throw up in.
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Tree huggin hippy, hardcore muthafucker.
Live for peace, die for freedom, fight for respect.
 
could u answer a few Q's dragonfog?
I'm just curious as to ur age and your experience with hard drugs because heroin can really suck you in if you don't respect it.
Im sure your aware of the type of high it produces and it really is the best feeling in the world.
Don't let it become more important than the things you hold dear in life.
 
i, too, want to try heroin. i know it's something to be careful with but i wanna say thanks to anyone who will give helpful information on it here so that way nobody goes out not knowing what they're doing.
 
It's really hard to say what a good starting dose would be for someone who's never done it before.
Last week I was with some first timers. Two of them used TINY lines, basically bumps and were doing quite well. Another guy decided to do twice that much and was nodding out all night, totally incoherant and NOT having fun. The stuff was particularly high quality, though.
My suggestion would be if you're getting a dime bag, to make 3 tiny lines. If you're getting a $20 bag go for 5 tiny lines. Wait at least 5 minutes before using any more. It takes a few before it kicks in, then another few before you really feel the full effects.
And like someone else said, keep something around like a plastic bag or trashcan because you'll usually puke your first couple times doing heroin.
 
First a request - ANYONE THAT REPLIES TO THIS THREAD, PLEASE DON'T RESPOND TO COMMENTS ABOUT HEROIN BEING DANGEROUS, DEADLY, OR BEING SOME EVIL CHEMICAL THAT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE Heroin is a chemical, and like any other chemical, if it's abused you can hurt yourself .. I am tired of heroin threads turning into flame wars...
Anyway, in the spirit of "harm reduction" I must throw in a wordof caution - it's not wise to offer dosing info on a drug such as heroin, as the quaity varies GREATLY - yes, if you don't know what you're doing and think well "hey, so-and-so said a 10cm line"... well, that type of use could have some negetive side effects (read: death) ..
To start, I would go with a small "bump" - ie a tiny amount on the end of a key.. give it about 5-10 minutes and see how it hits ya, then work from there...
It's a wonderfull tool when used with care, and it would be a shame to lose a 115lb female (as-is there are to many fat chicks here)...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
[This message has been edited by PhreeX (edited 13 November 2001).]
 
thanks for all of the responses.
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gazman, i appreciate your concern, but i do realize what i'm getting into. i have had my share of experiences with drugs, including some that are considered highly addictive, such as coke and meth, but i have a pretty strong will and have never had anything close to a problem as far as addiction goes.
anyway, i guess i'll just start off with a bump when i do it and go from here. thanks again everybody.
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~poe
"all who wander are not lost."
 
question ..
i hope phreex sees this...
anyway in heroin case ..u say if used properly its great...where do u find the limit ? addiction ? how often do u do it ?...
 
do it once, twice--hell a hundered times--then forget about heroin don't ever do it again as it is an oppresive wart which clings to you until you die from it..................
 
How can some of you guys, that post intelligent responses to so many other questions, be so fucking ignorant when it comes to heroin?
If you want to talk about physical effects, it does the body less damage then marijuana..
As for addiction - everything pleasureable is addicting, the difference between, say, sex and heroin is that the body becomes physically dependant upon the drug - a strong will can keep everything in check..
We all know that many people think heroin is evil - the poster didn't ask for these opinions, so if you don't have something to contribute, don't post!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
well buddy--- I commend you on your post and replys- I in fact love heroin and understand its drawbacks and the need for a strong will---I love heroin and have been a fan for years--just in fact don't recomend weak ill fated , sheltered and non stret senseical people messing with the dredgeres of it........don't mock me for post that about it being a wart------you infact are the miseducated..... for replying refering to me.
 
dragon--
Hah, get ready for a real fun time... and be prepared for a long experience, I wasn't fully down for ~24 hours after my first time with the H-bomb.
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As a rule of thumb, $10 worth (at single-unit prices) is a big strong dose for a first-timer, everywhere I've been. But it varies, and as Phreex said, test a little first, and wait a good 15 min for it to all hit. If you feel like you're having trouble staying awake, that's a sign to stop.
Phreex--
Don't get me wrong, I'm as big an H fan as the next man, but I have to disagree with you here. Yup, heroin itself is probably physically the least harmul drug you're gonna find anywhere, as long as you don't i.v. or OD.
Addiction, however, ain't so simple. Sex and heroin are both pleasurable, yeah. However a surprisingly large part of your brain was built around handling sex properly -- there are tons of little circuits that make sure you try to have sex enough, with the right people, and not too much. As a result very few people become addicted to sex; their brain keeps everything under control. Who has sex _all_ the time? Eventually you just ain't horny anymore (with the possible exception of males aged 14-17).
With the H-bomb, however, it's different. It bypasses all those carefully designed filters and control mechanisms and takes a shortcut to the big buttons labelled "happy" and "reward" in your brain. It's no surprise that people get addicted to it...
That being said, heroin doesn't deserve the horrible rap it gets even in these forums. I was (still am a little) amazed at the number of chippers and past users I know who have never had problems with addiction. Friankly I find speed much more addictive than H. As long as you're generally happy, enjoy parts of your life unrelated to drugs, don't have any mental illnesses, and don't have problems with other substances... I think you will be able to keep your use under control with a little effort and intelligence.
Sadly, many people who try heroin don't fit that description. I wish them the best of luck, but....
 
I'm going to recant my original mention of figuring out a first time dose and go with what PhreeX said.
Another girl tried one of the batches I had got. She used less than half, maybe a third of a dime and was throwing up for 8 hours on Saturday night until early Sunday morning.
I know the stuff I get is good quality, but this was actually one of the weakest batches I've gotten from this particular source. Infact they were hooking up $25 bags (first time I'd seen it in bags and not vials from this alley) which were twice as big as the usual $20s I get.
So anyways, my point is use PhreeX's advice and take *small* key bumps to begin with. Make sure to wait AT LEAST 5 minutes if not 10 minutes before you use anymore to see how you're doing.
 
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