Heroin Heroin Insufflated: No Rush, Delayed Nod????

[ShaunG]

So I have been trying to figure this out for some time. I only do H (east coast powder) once in a while and have done it maybe 10-20 times. Half of these times were very nice experience, the other half were not due to quality. I have tolerance from pills, but thats just about it...not a very high dose range either (60-90mg OC). This is a recreational dose required. I take a small Vicodin dose daily.

Half the time I get bad shit, I can toot 80-100mg and only get a slight warmth of the palms and ear for about an hour and then nothing for like 10 hours. By no rush, I guess I meant no instant (5 mins) head blown back noddy euphoria after snorting like u do with one tiny line of good shit. Then in 10 hours, or in last night's case 12 fucking hours, I get hit with a wreckless nod late at night 12 hours after the last toot. I mean I couldn't even stay awake when I was trying last night and that is not how I like to do H since I am on low dose daily Xanax. Sleep paralysis like a motherfucker like Opana used to give me. Breathing gets shallow and scares me and when I wake up out of my nod I feel like I stopped breathing or some shit. I nodded hard as fuck for like 3 hours last night and that started 12 hours after my last insufflation when I barely felt it all day (kind of an amped up feeling like I took a high thebaine PST and tiny warmth for an hour after doing it). I actually tried 2 different kinds yesterday too. One was very light brown/tan all the way through and one darker brown with black specs...kinda smelled of vinegar when it was crushed up.

My question is...what the fuck is going on here? Why is the high like this? I would like to know for harm reduction purposes. I know its probably crappy dope, but whats with how I get the nod 12 hours later? The only thing I could fathom is that the dope is so cut that my nasal mucus membranes are getting clogged with cut and the goods are going down the drip to my stomach. Does H take a long ass time to be digested and turned to morphine? I may also have a slow digestive track. Does this sound right? If so, is there anything i can do to clean this brown cut powder and not snort so much cut? Doods around here are inconsistent and its always different or I would simply avoid certain people, but that is all I know since I do not dabble much. I really don't like getting hit by a truck 12 hours later at night when I don't have anyone watching me nod out.

Suggestions other than don't buy crap? Thanks

 

[sekio]

it sounds to me like getting tired 12 hours later is not related to your heroin usage. it doesn't hang around in your sinuses for that long.

 

[ShaunG]

Nah, this is not just tired. I know a nod from being tired. I mean I get hit with a slightly euphoric dreamy in/out opiate nod 12 hours later and heart rate and breathing is definitely at its lowest point in the day. I know it wouldn't be from anything left in the nasal passages, but what about the drip that gets ingested on doing a bunch that does not get absorbed into the nasal passages because they are too covered in cut to absorb the goods?

 

[Cornishman]

Op, are you in Europe?

 

[ShaunG]

drip from heroin is going to do next to nothing, the stomach doesn't metabolise it properly. wet the inside of your nose and snort it differently than you would snort oxy pills or just plug it if you dont want to IV

If this is true then I am clueless as to what is going on with my body metabolizing this then. 10-12 hours of nothing and then boom there is the nod (not a nice euphoric one like good dope but an opiate nod at that). I don't get it. I can always tell when it is good for insufflation or not because one or two little lines will do me nice all day long when it is good. If not, I do like 4-5 lines and dont really get much from it, but im always afraid to do more because when its weak like this I get hit way later just as what happened last night. This is not a one time occurrence and its driving me nuts. The same people that shoot the same dope say its good so no really sure what the deal is. I was hoping to get some insight here. Good way to make me not want to H.

Op, are you in Europe?

No, midwest/east coast. Why? Its not freebase if that is why you ask. I know people usually bang it around here with just adding water.

 

[Kenny7822]

It's probably just how the heroin effects you. Same thing happens to me. When I first do heroin I get an energetic high then when it starts to wear off I get tired and noddy like you.

 

[ShaunG]

I guess it could just be the way this particular dope was made. more random alkaloids or whatever. i saw someone mention this in the "legs" thread. it really does feel like a PST high where the morphine content is not that high so u feel those other bad alkaloids. it just perplexes me that i can get something else where one line has me nodded out and euphoric as all hell within like 30 minutes. That euphoria lasts all day long and it is a very enjoyable high. This stuff really is not euphoric at all even after 5 lines. The people that bang still like it though. I'm not really into plugging so I guess im SOL.

btw - is there a way to get some of the cut out of the rocks? i dont care about losing some since it sucks anyways.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Who knows what is in street "heroin". It could be anything.

When did you take your Xanax in relation to this happening?

 

[ShaunG]

i only took .25mg at like 10pm...this happened at like 12am. i usually take a .5-1mg a day so this was less than normal for me. i know they can potentiate but i don't think that was the case. this has happened several times before without the xanax. i actually usually don't take the xanax at all if i can feel respiratory depression but it was 10 hours since last line so i figured i was good.

 

[Venrak]

This is like "LSD" that hits you after four hours. 8)

What was in the bag was probably not what you thought it was.

 

[ShaunG]

This is like "LSD" that hits you after four hours. 8)

What was in the bag was probably not what you thought it was.

This wasn't an isolated time and it is with several different bags at different times from different places or i'd say you are right...plus i know people bang it and enjoy it this way...

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I don't know, I think we can only speculate and we discourage threads that only involve speculation.

I have experienced something sort of similar to what you are talking about but with IV use. I would still get some initial effects though, but then it would feel like I wasn't really high and was merely not in withdrawal, then way later when I was sitting on the couch or lying in bed I'd suddenly be nodding out. I just assumed at the time that it probably had to do with various factors like smoking, eating, temperature, whether my body was being physically active, whether my mind was occupied, whether I was paying close attention to the effects of the drug, etc.

The Xanax could have played a role on that occasion, even if it wasn't a factor on other occasions that this has happened to you.

But I also still think that you can't rule out the heroin possibly having impurities or being cut with other drugs.

 

[ShaunG]

I don't know, I think we can only speculate and we discourage threads that only involve speculation.

I have experienced something sort of similar to what you are talking about but with IV use. I would still get some initial effects though, but then it would feel like I wasn't really high and was merely not in withdrawal, then way later when I was sitting on the couch or lying in bed I'd suddenly be nodding out. I just assumed at the time that it probably had to do with various factors like smoking, eating, temperature, whether my body was being physically active, whether my mind was occupied, whether I was paying close attention to the effects of the drug, etc.

The Xanax could have played a role on that occasion, even if it wasn't a factor on other occasions that this has happened to you.

But I also still think that you can't rule out the heroin possibly having impurities or being cut with other drugs.

I agree. Xanax could have played a role, but I do not think that was the case. I would agree with impurities and cuts definitely factoring in. Something the prolonged absorption such as quinine may have pushed back the nod from all the drip or from being processed. Also, impurities such as other active alkaloids or opioids in the dope could have contributed. Afterall, it did feel kinda of like a PST sort of high all day after the initial hour or so of slight warmth and mood elevation.