heroin/cocaine vs heroin/meth

[navajasz]

for people who tried both combos whis is a better speedball (more euphoric)?






oh and i wanna add a short introduction about myself if u dnt mind cuz its my first post... i would just like to point out that weed ruined my life at some point more than any of those drugs (dope/coke/meth) did... when i messed with coke, dope and meth i knew what i was gettin into... i respected these substances and used them responsibly, i fought my cravings and never got addicted or ODed on any of them... i still do them to this day, twice a year, never in the place i live though, only when im on vacation... if i count the number of times i did these drugs in the last three years it would be like 6 times... however with weed, it was always like "weed isnt even a drug", weed is natural, weed makes you peaceful, it calms u down at the end of ur day, theirs no harm in smoking a joint every once in a while! gradually I became a stoner for a year, and it was the worst year of my life, lost my confidence, lost my drive in life, and became paranoid as a mofo... I stopped smoking for a year and a half now, but some of the psychological problems i got from weed r still with me to this day... anyways i dnt fuck wit psychedelics, empatheogens or entheogens anymore... i dnt use drugs to discover myself, get enlightened, unlock the secrets of the universe, feel the love or any of that spiritual mumbo jumbo, my sole purpose of doing drugs, is getting fucked up and having one hell of a time, CHEMICAL EUPHORIA is what I strive for... so I say it loud my favourite drugs are the most addictive most pleasure enducing substances out there, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine, and Im PROUD! hehe.. if u wanna knw more about me i meditate, practice yoga, excersie, eat healthy and spend alotta time studying... however when on vacation, IM SATAN!

 

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there is a new member introductions section for this kind of paragraph

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I don't know the best combo, because I've only tried the heroin/cocaine combination.

Honestly, I like the opiate outlasting the upper, because uppers tweak me out and without heroin they aren't worth doing (except meth, but I have only tried it once, orally as well).

If you prefer the upper to outlast the downer, you would probably prefer heroin/meth.

Otherwise, if you're like me and prefer the heroin but like the feeling of a speedball with the opiate dominating (heroin always dominates coke), then stick with coke.

I'm sure trying all 3 would be great because the meth would help the cocaine crash and the heroin crash, the heroin would keep the upper side effects down, and as the heroin/meth wears on, the coke would help both buzzes come back to life.

I've done all sorts of combos with heroin and cocaine, and at some points, it's hard to separate the different effects from the different drugs you took, and your euphoria becomes one big conglomerated 'high'.

If I had access to all three (though I never have so I can't say I'd do it like this...), I would start with meth (seeing as I've never smoked some proper shards), and when my mind gets too wired to be able to enjoy the frantic nature of amphetamines, I would dose the heroin (IV'd of course). After the heroin rush wares off in the next half hour/hour depending on how great the shot was, I would use the cocaine to relive both the meth and heroin rush, and to keep the upper and downer domination feeling (I wouldn't redose any meth until after I was coming down from all 3, I wouldn't redose heroin until the meth became unenjoyable, and I would stop redosing the coke before the heroin wears off so the coke come down doesn't suck too terribly much).

Then again, if I had true access to all three, my ass would likely just do the heroin and sit there content as a motherfucker.

To be honest, if the coke wasn't free, I'd only do it when I was coming down from H and felt like shit. If it was free, I'd enjoy myself a free speedball.

 

[Carl Landrover]

Could you just keep using heroin throughout the meth binge or just save it for the comedown?

I bet it (heroin) would be nice with meth if you kept redosing.

 

[navajasz]

the truth is im much more of a downer guy... cocaine is my favourite stimulant cuz it has a short duration, and the feeling of leaving a cocaine rush and suddenly getting into a heroin nod is to die for... And i always felt that cocaine is a clean, psychological, euphoric high opposed to meth which is more physical and dirtier... mixing all three is recipe for disaster but sounds kinda interesting... the nazis used to give their army a pill called dx-1 i think, containing all three lol... if i would do all three together i wouldnt do it in the same order you put... it would be meth then coke then heroin or meth and coke together then heroin or meth then heroin and coke together... this way i would avoid a comedown and theres no need for redosing over and over again which would finish the supply i have quickly, create a huge body load and tends to be dangerous... dunno why but i have a fetish for powders (coke, dope, meth) and the nastiness revolving around them intrigues me and attracts me in a weird unexplainable way.... plus i love opposite combos speedballs, shemales and reeses cups lol, getting the best of both worlds

 

[chrisinabox]

i would pop a klonopin before doing coke/meth and save the heroin for the comedown or when i feel bad or get really paranoid. heroin is like the best comedown drug there is. its like going from a nice euphoric meth/coke high and when u start to comedown, you ease into a nice warm blanket of euphoria and feel GREAT!

honestly, i've never shot coke or meth before, only heroin, is it really that dangerous to mix meth or coke with heroin in a shot? i'm worried i would od or something.

 

[navajasz]

i would pop a klonopin before doing coke/meth and save the heroin for the comedown or when i feel bad or get really paranoid. heroin is like the best comedown drug there is. its like going from a nice euphoric meth/coke high and when u start to comedown, you ease into a nice warm blanket of euphoria and feel GREAT!

honestly, i've never shot coke or meth before, only heroin, is it really that dangerous to mix meth or coke with heroin in a shot? i'm worried i would od or something.

yes a speedball is VERY dangerous and yes it can kill you, however mixing heroin with benzos or alcohol is much more dangerous but it never gets as much attention as speedballs... im not trying to say that a speedball is like a walk in the park however i must say its danger is so overrated... you always get the same ol boring story, belushi, phoenix etc died from a speedball blah blah.. nobody ever mentions how many celebs died from heroin alone, cocaine alone, alcohol, benzos, barbiturates, alcohol and cocaine, alcohol and benzos, alcohol and barbiturates, steroid abuse etc... and nobody mentions how many celebs speedballed and didnt OD we only get the bad news, oh and one more thing, fuck celebs... usually people ODing from speedballs are in bad physical shape (not healthy), or keep on shooting speedballs constantly through the night over and over again till their heart cant take it anymore, or mix heroic doses of each drug, or people with no tolerance at all who decide "i wanna shoot a speedball" without even trying each drug on its own first and knwing how their body reacts to them... still i cant deny that you may OD on a speedball even without the above reasons being applicable.. however if you use tiny amounts of both, and shoot the mixture gradually, pausing each time and sensing how you feel instead of slamming it all at once, and do it only once instead of shooting one after the other, theres a tiny chance youd OD... snorting a speedball doesnt give you a rush like shooting, however its the same high and its much safer... unfortunately the beauty of a speedball comes from the rush whichs lasts for a minute or so, then the high is the same as smoking or snorting...

 

[navajasz]

any more opinions?

 

[svacheme3]

Heroin/cocaine ftw. The rush from meth doesn't even compare to the rush from coke, not to mention you can't keep doing meth over and over throughout the night without ODing (because of half life).

 

[mmmCHRISx]

Cocaine just because first you will be all tweaked out, then you will fall back onto the warm blanket of heroin and be in udder bliss.

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

i've never mixed heroin with cocaine, but....
i once smoked a bunch of heroin around 10 PM at at 1 AM smoked a bunch of meth (the only time in my life anyone has ever offered me free tweak and forcefully insisted that i smoke it) and it was NOT a good expericence. i just got very very sick and vomitted everywhere, then had a horrible stomach ache for a day. so i wouldn't really reccomend it, but i dunno.

 

[Atlien3]

ironically the only time ive done any of these in combination i did all three lol, i started doing coke and someone brought some ice and that was really nice and them someone had some powdered h and we sniffed that, prob the most euphoric night of my life, the heroin made the crystal and coke comedown very nice and i just fell asleep tingly all over my whole body

 

[Mr Blonde]

yes a speedball is VERY dangerous and yes it can kill you, however mixing heroin with benzos or alcohol is much more dangerous but it never gets as much attention as speedballs...

It's quite well known on here that mixing CNS depressants can be bad for you.

Anyway, combo threads belong in Basic Drug Discussion.

OD===>BDD

 

[purepremium]

I never actually new about a "Speedball" until I went on an Intervention marathon on You Tube one day... and one of the episodes was a woman who was mixing cocaine with heroin and smoking it, and they called it a "Speedball". I never heard this term before.. and when I read it here I always just thought it was a certain weight of cocaine (Yea stupid me)..

But speedballing seems really bad for you...

Can you only smoke this combination? And Just by reading the previous posts, heroin and cocaine would seem like the best mixture..

But you can't IV a speedball can you?

This whole speedball thing really shocked me.. almost as much as when I heard about how they make crystal meth

 

[Makaveli69]

IVing it is the only way i even consider it a speedball.

 

[navajasz]

IVing it is the only way i even consider it a speedball.

true... speedballing is all about the rush and without IVing theres no rush... the ultimate euphoria comes from both hitting you at the same time... another reason is that cocaine when IVed is like another drug totally different from cocaine when snorted... i find that the heroin high is the same wether you shoot it, snort it or smoke it, only difference being the intensity of the rush which is still a huge difference, however with cocaine the whole feeling is different, the high, everything...

 

[alphao5]

what about Heroin and MDMA for a speedball?

My First Post here even though I have known of you guys sense like 2000 if not earlier.....

Opt 1. Heroin and Cocaine are to short lived and very nasty drugs

Opt 2. Heroin and Methamphetamines are to long lived and EXTREMLY NASTY DRUGS

*****My Speedball of Choice when I did that stuff*****

Opt 3. Heroin and Pure MDMA (aka "Molly" usally comes in bulk powder or powder in a gelcap)

Extacy Pills the pressed kinds usally will not work (or i have never got any to dissolve in water) Im guessing cause the pressing meterials and cause the Pressed Pills usally have other stuff like caffinee and Aspirn and prolly other substances that may not be water solible....

Injecting... I am guessing that this post was refering to that not sure anyother way to do it.... IV Drug use is not safe! You can get AIDS HIV HEP and other infectiosn and blood desies from NOT ONLY SHARING a syringe but REUSING YOUR OWN! Purity of the drugs is always unknown if you are to do a speedbal for any reason and ontop inject it.... please start off with 1/4 of the normal dose you take when injecting.... so thats a 1/4 Hit of Heroin and a 1/4 Hit of MDMA Also make sure to cook and get the Heroin ready then draw it up in a syringe using a filter... add the MDMA to the spoon then shoot your heroin mix on the MDMA and stire the powder untill its desoved and re suck it back up in the syringe using a filter and your an expert now!

Anyways I do not currently use drugs I am 4 ms Clean..... I use to do everything from DXM to 2ct7 to DMT to LSD to Alcohal to Meth to Heroin..... There are very few substances I have tried.... not bragging but I do understand drugs fully now!

Personaly I do not beleave that the heroin was the reason for my addiction but it was the Addiction!!! I just did not have enough contol inside me to be the person I NEEDED to be....

Anyways I still love drug talk and so on... If anyone needs help with quiting heroin, meth, coke, computer duster, Robo DM, CCC, or anything I am a great listener and have some good advice on getting over the detoxing stage and staying clean......

Like I said I dont blame drugs I blame myself for having Educated myself Prior to USING and still not knowing better! I knew that Injecting Heroin on a regular basis was NOT a good idea lol but we all learn from mistakes....

 

[NeoA]

I have done both and I would say with no comparison it would be Herion/meth.
But that could also be with the coke I had wasn't that pure or too cut but anyway way I had the most intensifying sensation of my life with Herion/Meth Its like having having your whole body from head to toe giving you needles of pure pleasure everywhere through your whole body.

This is whole the day turn out witch was unexpected expect the heroin. Did 15mg Black Tar (good shit). Then 1 hour later as I was in bliss my homie had some meth witch I never tried but always wanted to and I was pretty out of it with the heroin but not giving a fuck I snorted a fat line of meth and after that was the most pleasurable feeling I had in my life. I called it Supernoding ha. My friend said I was slowly noding drastically but the more extreme kind not the regulary nod when your on herion but tilting your head back then ur head going way forward. I cant remember how long it lasted me but it lasted me for a while and when the tweek was over Im guessing after 45-1 hour the first thing that went into my head was "I WANT SOME MORE" I dont remember if I had weed or not but its good to smoke weed just to trigger your senses more. It can be before or after. You can feel a more intense rush when your already on weed... dam... Just by thinking about it I want to go get some right now.... so for a good intense time, smoke some bomb weed get high, shoot up herion and then meth and BOOM. your beyond high your in another world.

But thats my event. I was also thinking the herion was still in of course so I thougt to myself when that sensation is over with the meth I can probley snort another line for that sensation. But my next goal is to shoot both of them up and mix them both to see what feeling I would get and of course always shoot up heroin.

Herion/meth... Not to mention smoke some weed to trigger your senses.

 

[deez_nuggs]

You can get AIDS HIV HEP and other infectiosn and blood desies from REUSING YOUR OWN!

..No. There is no possible way to contract AIDS without coming in contact with someone else who has HIV.

 

[allalong]

I think that most people who are typically "downer people" or, seemingly more common, "opiate people" will prefer the H/C combo because of the H outlasting the rush of the C and serving to mitigate the tweaked-out paranoid state that you'd otherwise be left in. "Upper people," on the other hands, will most likely prefer the H/meth combo because the meth outlasts the heroin and they'll prefer being left with a speed high to being left strung-out and nodding off.