heres to drinking yourself to sleep everynight

oh, but he's right. Saying that someone can't escape their heads or erase their thoughts, is like telling someone that the only solutions are to give up, or become cold & uncaring.
But it really doesn't matter, because your truth is singular; it only applies to you. Do not presume to tell someone how their mind works, because their truth is not yours.
Try telling a Buddist monk that they can't escape their minds or erase thoughts; just because you can't, doesn't mean that he can't.
The mind is capable of far more than we are aware of. But one of the things that our ancestors had known for thousands of years, is that meditation works. The mind naturally edits memories and escapes on it's own just fine. Nothing says that we can't influence, or even remap, our memory processes.
 
^thanks for that post up their on opiate w/d and death, I'd always heard otherwise
 
okay, so ive read all your post and all of them have a certain level of truth to them. im really trying to change my thought process and get out of this shitstorm as you guys call it. like last night, i had this guy over ive been seeing because i thought that it would make me forget my ex. but all it does is make me wish he was here more, and all i do is pretend that this guy is him. and it doesnt work. even when im with this guy, we drink every time were together. its like i have to drink when im with him because its actually painful to be with him sober. its painful to be around people sober. how fucked up is that? i think i need psychological help.

right now it is mentally and emotionally impossible to erase these memories from my head. i know because i have tried it over and over and over. trust me, i wish i could.
 
i think i need psychological help.

I agree with this. I think seing a mental health professional would help you and it would most certainly help you more then drinking all the time and drinking yourself into a stupor so you can sleep.

I was a alcoholic before i developed chronic pain and eventually became addicted to opiates. If i had not have given up drinking i would most likely be dead by now or be one of the walking dead. That addiction damn near destroyed me and it got to the point where i could not function without alcohol as i would get withdrawals. I have gone through hydromorphone, morphine and oxycodone withdrawals many times and it was not nearly as bad as alcohol withdrawals. The withdrawals from alcohol where basically unbearable and i couldnt stop on my own because it was far to painful so i had to get help from a doctor in order to quit. I had been trying on and off mostly half heartidly to quit drinking for a few months but i could never do it because the withdrawals where torture.

That was 7 years ago now or around that amount of time and since then i have had some slip ups but nothing like i had been doing years ago. I had some major slipups the spring and summer after me and my g/f had alot of trouble and we didnt even talk to each other for a good month or so. That was when i had my first 3 day bender in almost 7 years. I havent had a drink now since around the begining of august and i really don't plan on having one anytime soon. Thats just my story and i figured id share it to give you a idea of just how bad your life can get when you are a alcoholic.

I understand that you miss your b/f but believe me the cure to your problems is not at the bottom of a bottle. Talking to a mental health professional of some sort and getting treated for your insomnia or your feelings of depression would help you in my opinion. If you need something for sleep a sleeping pill from your doctor would be alot less harmful then drinking yourself to sleep. A few meds can treat both depression and insomnia at the same time. Remember this is only a suggestion on my part and i am most certainly not a doctor so don't take my words as gospel.

The main thing im trying to say is that however bad you are feeling now your problems are going to be much much worse if you get addicted to alcohol. Anyway i really hope you get some kind of help and that you stop the drinking.
 
okay, so ive read all your post and all of them have a certain level of truth to them. im really trying to change my thought process and get out of this shitstorm as you guys call it. like last night, i had this guy over ive been seeing because i thought that it would make me forget my ex. but all it does is make me wish he was here more, and all i do is pretend that this guy is him. and it doesnt work. even when im with this guy, we drink every time were together. its like i have to drink when im with him because its actually painful to be with him sober. its painful to be around people sober. how fucked up is that? i think i need psychological help.

right now it is mentally and emotionally impossible to erase these memories from my head. i know because i have tried it over and over and over. trust me, i wish i could.


Yep, been down the road of other people only making me miss someone even more.

There's no timetable for getting over a relationship with someone - it takes as long as it takes for you - but over time the thoughts will be less frequent and less painful.

And no matter what our drug of choice, there are people with whom we fall into the habit of abusing it. The vast majority of people in my social circle are 24/7 barely functioning alcoholics and I had to distance myself from them for a long time when I first stopped abusing alcohol. For a while that meant I didn't really have any friends, which was actually a good thing for me because it meant that I wasn't distracted from sorting out my mental health issues.

Right now it's impossible for you to erase unwanted memories, but erasing them isn't a realistic goal right now. A mental health professional can help you set more realistic goals and teach you the tools you need to reach them (people can and do teach themselves these techniques but that's hard to do when you're all fucked up). And the right medication can help with both your insomnia and your obsessive thoughts.

Another good reason for having a mental health professional on board is that they'll notice changes which you might not. Strange as it might sound, I didn't really notice that I was mostly calm, not angry, less erratic, etc until my psychologist pointed it out to me because those changes happened by degrees. It's easy to get tunnel vision and think that you're not getting anywhere unless you've achieved your main goal.

It was the end of a fucked up relationship which made me decide to sort out my mental health issues and when I started putting serious effort into that the desire to abuse alcohol just went away of its own accord. I'm convinced to this day that had my goal been to stop drinking, I'd still be abusing alcohol and my bipolar disorder would still be out of control.

For you, the first step might be getting some help for your insomnia and obsessive thoughts. I guess that for all of us the "right" first step is the one which gets us on the path to liking ourselves and our life. There is no "one true way" to do that, so don't feel like you've "failed" and are going to be stuck in the same place forever if something doesn't work for you.

For what it's worth, the Buddhist techniques referred to in this thread aren't meant to stop you from having feelings, they're about learning not to engage your feelings and desires. It's not "embrace your feelings" stuff and that can make it very daunting if you're feeling in need of a lot of emotional validation. CBT is probably a gentler place to start when you're in a lot of emotional pain.
 
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