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Help with quitting H- Could use some advice

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Miss Spooky

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Hey Blielighters!
this is my first post so go easy on me. I've been reading through the threads on The Dark Side and Sober Living all day as I am in day one of cold turkey from an IV H habit of approx 2 years. I've managed to taper down to about 2 bags a day and am smoking it rather than shooting. I'm absolutely desperate to quit, this habit has ruined my life. I'm in loads of debt and my relationship with my husband is over.
I've taken about 900 mg of gaba and 24mg of lope and am just beginning to feel bad now- last time I used was early this morning when I smoked a very tiny amount.
i could really use some advice on whether I should try and stick it out or if I should give in and buy some more gear and try to taper? I haven't had much success with trying this in the past, as evil me just keeps taking it until it's gone!
I have a very stressful job, and on Monday I have to drive over 100 miles to get to work and the thought of doing this in wd is frankly terrifying.
I have a very small amount of money left so buying more will pretty much clean me out until payday at the end of the month.
i have only once managed to stop, and that was only for 5 days. Please don't advise me to go to my doc or rehab, the rehab here is terrible, they put my husband on methadone and now he's a worse addict than ever.
Also I suffer from chronic pain as I have severe arthritis, this is how I got addicted to start with . codeine then morphine from the doc and then on to Lady H when they cut me off. My doc already treats me like a junkie,cos of the morphine, even tho it was her that prescribed it to me.
Sorry this has got a bit disjointed, I guess what Im really looking for is someone to tell me to stick it out!
Is thre anyone out there who has been through this and is safely on the other side has any advice for me I would be so grateful, I'm feeling very alone right now, I've never told anyone I'm an addict before now.
thanks!
 
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Hi toothpaste! I'm just looking for some advice to get through the wds!
See previous post I finally managed to complete, am struggling to operate right now....
thanks
 
Tapering with heroin is extremely difficult. The urge to redose before you're scheduled to is just too strong for it to work for the vast majority of people. I'd suggest sticking it out. Can you get any more comfort meds? Upping you dose of gabapentin to like 3000-4000mg may help. Something like diazepam is also very helpful, as is DXM/MXE/ketamine.

I take it methadone and buprenorphine aren't available to you? Those would be your best options in terms of using on of those drugs for a few days to help get you through your detox (you wouldn't really need to use them longer than 7 days if you are just wanting to get through the acute withdrawal; if you seek something more meaningful a taper with a maintenance medication like buprenorphine or methadone is ideal, but only if you are able to commit to it long term).
 
Thanks toothpaste, I can't get any of the other drugs you mention, I could get methadone etc if I could go to rehab but I have to work away from home for most of the week and they make you go to the chemist everyday to take your dose and I just couldn't getaway from work without arising suspicion. My employers have a zero tolerance policy on drugs and alcohol.
I will take some more gaba and try to be strong
thanks
 
Are you in the UK? What about OTC codeine? You could use that to detox for a week.
 
Yep I'm in the Uk and I have a scrip for co-codamol. 30mg but as I have been taking this for years I have a very high tolerance! It also has paracetamol in it so I can only take 2 at a time I also have 80,g of zomorph in 10 mg caps but I'm trying to save them for Monday.
 
Spooky, I hope all is well. I am with tooth on that it is very hard to taper with heroin. I would recommended if you feel really bad to do a Cold Water Extraction on the codeine. It will take out the Tylenol so you can take as many as you need to feel comfortable.
 
Yes, you need to be very careful with your liver regarding the APAP. Thank you for pointing that out.
 
Hi Guys, sorry I thought I had replied but my post has vanished!
Im ashamed to say I caved at the weekend, I felt terrible and was worried about driving on mon.
If i do a cwe how long can I keep the solution in the fridge? I wanted to try this but felt so terrible I couldn't face making it up, if I get it ready in advance then I could take it when I get to breaking point?
Also the Loperimide didn't seem to do much, I upped it to 44 mg and 3000mg of Gabapenpin but I started to feel very wonky, it wasn't unpleasant but I couldn't drive or work like it, I've seen that some people advise taking the lope in advance? How much would you say would be a safe maximum amount to start with, and would it be as effective without the Gabapenpin?

Thank you!
 
Gabapentin and lopeven in high doses will potentially dehydrate you. I don't suggest high doses of lope and high doses of gabapentin, though moderate doses of Gabapentin and moderate doses of lope together should be fine. Gabapentin has a tendency to make you loopy, so be aware of that, especially at high doses.

Don't expect the lope to do all that much if 44mg didn't help much. It won't help so much with cravings, and the effects it has with the GI system, while very helpful, are of limited use. I'd suggest starting with 20mg of lope and going up 10mg until you feel better in terms of diarrhea. That is what it is best for. Don't take more than 60 to 80mg unless you are very careful. You tend to catch a buzz with a lot of somewhat unpleasant side effect between 80 and 120mg of lope. I have taken up to 160mg and gotten a buzz from it in opioid withdrawal, but I really don't suggest it dup to the potential of cardioloxic side effects and severe dehydration.

Try not to beat yourself up to much, slipping is part of the Recovery process. Just pick yourself up and try again.

I still suggest you rely more on the Gabapentin than the lope. I always found it the more helpful of the two.
 
over here in scotland we call gabapentin ship ahoys because of that wonky feeling swaying like on a boat...me myself, i passed on them when i found the pre-Gablin,invented by the same man as the gabbas,but more of a valium/diazepam feeling,infact some doctors and specialists are now prescribing them instead of valium as although still adictive,they are not near;y as addictive as vallies but sure as hell work for the stomach cramops and takes the edge off...get that monkey off your back for a bit...laters
 
I believe you mean pregabalin. It is not generic (only brand name Lyrica until the patent expires in the US and very pricy, but with good insurance you only have like a $20USD copay. They are nice because, while very, very similar to gabapentin, they are more potent above small doses (900mg pregabalin > 900mg gabapentin). That said, I much prefer gabapentin for opioid withdrawal. Fewer side effects for me, and less toxic at higher dosages.
 
I too prefer pregab, but it's much harder to get hold of here. I'm now on day two and not feeling too bad, knocked myself out on Gabapenpin and lorezapan with a bit of lope thrown in yesterday. I'm proud to say I have a bag of h I haven't touched. Although I have taken 40 mgs of Zomorph spread over 24 hours.
I have to work away for the two days, if I make up a cwe of codeine how long will it last if I keep it in the fridge?
Thanks for all your advice, it's really helped knowing I'm not doing this alone.
 
I am not sure how long it will last,but it shouldn't degrade super quick. Check out erowid or do a google search ("site:bluelight.org cwe codeine shelf life" or something).

I would really just toss that dope if I were you. You can always find ways to get more should you decide that is what you want to do. If you are really trying to move on with your situation holding on to any heroin is just setting yourself up for failure. Though I totally understand the horror of throwing away perfectly good drugs, it can be quite a liberating experience.
 
You're advice was good, unfortunately I took the stuff on the third day convincing myself I would be OK, ended up having to use for another week. So here I am on attempt three. Day two and not feeling too bad. Whatever happens I'm not going to fail this time.
 
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