Stimulants help me conserve my meth stash!! :(

[ThePrincess]

Ok so I'm a new weekend meth smoker so of course I have some newbie questions I'm just going to list them off and I would really like some insightful answers, obviously with no judgement & any other "maybe just stop using". Thanks in advance!

1. When I smoke, I know I am high..but are there ways (natural, I don't mix drugs) to boost or enhance the high? Like with mdma, vitamin C & cracking your back are notorious to give you a little kick in the pants
2. How can I get the best possible high from smoking it (ONLY). I know the process of loading, lighting & inhaling. But are there any tips you have as to not waste anything? After each hit I touch the bowl to a lightly damp rag so it doesn't keep smoking forever.
3. How often do you personally redose? Again, only smoking here!

So those 3 are mostly about how to stop wasting, if I am. And I mean, who doesn't love getting a lil higher I feel like if I knew how to really get the most out of each hit/high, I wouldn't need to redose as often therefore making it last longer!!
4. This one is a bit off topic from the others, but do your feet turn purple as if they are cold? I know it has to do with vasoconstriction because I'm basically on the verge of sweating when I'm smokin!! Any tips or anything to reduce this? Because I mean purple feet that will leave yellow imprints for a long time with the slightest touch just isn't my fetish

That does it for now!!

Oh also, this is my first post so I apologize if anything is up to etiquette I've been reading a lot of articles on BL but wanted to get some more specific answers

 

[kosmokramer]

I would just like to chime in as it is a pet peve of mine, cracking your back does nothing for your body but raise your chances of needing a Chiropractor.

I'm not sure where the MDMA back cracking myth came from, but it has always bothered me.

This is not an a personal Attack, just banter.

 

[sekio]

If you're smoking meth... you're pretty much already already guaranteed to be delivering it to your brain as efficiently as possible. It's not rocket science. Heat the stuff gently, inhale the vapor. Don't burn it. Don't rapidly chill the pipe or it could shatter, by the way.

If your feet or hands or other extremities are turning purple that means your blood vessels are all constricting and you probably have raised blood pressure as well as decreased blood flow there. It's a sign your meth doses are pretty insanely high already. If you have chronically decreased circulation to your extremities you can end up needing to get your feet amputated (this happens to diabetics who don't take care of their circulation)....

The best way to "enhance your high naturally" is to avoid doing meth as often as you can, the more frequently you use amphetamines the less return on investment you'll get.

Cracking your back is 100% placebo, by the way. And Vitamin C will actually increase the rate your body excretes amphetamines, so if anything it will shorten your high if you take too much.

 

[ThePrincess]

I'll admit that I've never dug around to do research on the cracking your back deal. Just one of those things we would do while rolling no hard feelings good to know tho!

 

[AA357]

Using meth every single week (even once) IS wasteful. I know this from experience and I was only taking 20-30mg orally on Saturday mornings. Tolerance develops extremely quickly with meth. In a few weeks' time you'll be needing to take twice as much to get the same effect.

I don't mean to burst your bubble but if you're looking to "get the most out of each hit/high" then I would say take it 2x per month maximum.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

If your extremities turn purple, that is (or should be) concerning. My old roommate had to be brought back from the dead at a local ER after exposing meth to an open flame and smoking crystal rather than vaporizing it, and one of the symptoms he mentioned was the fact that his legs turned purple as he quickly lost circulation over a large part of his body.

With meth, like everything else, you reach a plateau high eventually. As you comedown, you can redoes to get back to that feeling, but ultimately I've found that repeatedly taking hits of meth over a brief period of time to get "really high" just leaves you feeling spun instead. I'm not so big on overstimulation, honestly.

 

[pinpoint]

If your extremities turn purple, that is (or should be) concerning. My old roommate had to be brought back from the dead at a local ER after exposing meth to an open flame and smoking crystal rather than vaporizing it, and one of the symptoms he mentioned was the fact that his legs turned purple as he quickly lost circulation over a large part of his body.

I know the difference between smoking and vaping but wouldn't this just waste the meth? Why did he have to go to the ER? Curious.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

I'm not sure about the specifics, other than he was a 17 year old former gang member who was smoking lots of meth around that time and also selling meth with his buddies. He supposedly was smoking a bowl of marijuana which somehow just had a bunch of meth in it for some reason? He had smoked enough meth to know how to smoke it properly, so I'm not sure why it happened, but yeah. He was one of those meth users who would just re-dose constantly until he had been awake for weeks, so I'm sure that didn't help. Then over a period of hours following he began to feel worse and worse, feeling extremely unwell and lightheaded, with the accompanying loss of circulation in his legs, to the point where both his legs were deep purple. He had his mom drive him to the ER and he actually was dead for a brief period of time before they revived him. I guess that incident scared him straight because he had quit using meth shortly after that, and was clean when I knew him.

It's the only story I personally know of in which someone died as a direct, immediate result of methamphetamine use.

 

[Renz Envy]

Hot rails

But...

Plug it in your butt.
Screw what people think, you're doing meth, might as well do the most embarrassing ROA.
Similar high to shooting, much less chance of infection. If you over-amp you can usually poop it out if it's within 30 minutes of plugging.
If plugging wasn't socially unacceptable, everyone would do it.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Hot rails

But...

Plug it in your butt.
Screw what people think, you're doing meth, might as well do the most embarrassing ROA.
Similar high to shooting, much less chance of infection. If you over-amp you can usually poop it out if it's within 30 minutes of plugging.
If plugging wasn't socially unacceptable, everyone would do it.

Does it burn?

I have never plugged anything and I don't like anything up there, and I have no plans to ever do this or use meth or other drugs people plug.

I've heard that even if you do an enema with a drug, or plug it how it's very easy to overdose and die.

 

[Renz Envy]

Does it burn?

I have never plugged anything and I don't like anything up there, and I have no plans to ever do this or use meth or other drugs people plug.

I've heard that even if you do an enema with a drug, or plug it how it's very easy to overdose and die.

Does it burn? No, not really. I'm sure a lot has to do with the quality of the speed, however.

You get 95-100% absorption and it kicks in about 30 seconds. It goes full throttle in about 5-15 minutes. The less water you use, the faster it kicks in.

Can you OD and die? Yes. It carries similar risks to injecting as far as dosing goes. Unlike injecting, you usually will know that you took too much in about 5 minutes and you can poop out the rest of it that's not absorbed yet.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Only you can regulate your drug usage. No one can do it for you. I would recommend sticking to reality...It's really hard depending on how long you've been using, but it's your life at stake.

 

[Voyager3]

Never tried smoking it, but that is only a superfast method of ingensting it I suppose? Once ingested, and assuming you are having a good time, Vitamin C is the last thing you want to take, as it flushes it from your system - and any other amphetamines - very quickly. To keep it working as long as possible, you want to alkylate the blood, with doses of bicarb or potassium citrate. Be careful though, these can cause a host of other problems if overdone!

 

[AA357]

Does it burn?

I have never plugged anything and I don't like anything up there, and I have no plans to ever do this or use meth or other drugs people plug.

I've heard that even if you do an enema with a drug, or plug it how it's very easy to overdose and die.

I've tried plugging 2C-E before and that burned for a while. IDGAF about social stigmas but plugging is really not a good way to take drugs IMO... it's messy, time-consuming and carries a much higher infection risk than oral dosing.
If I was particularly concerned about efficiency/speed of onset then I would much rather IM a drug than shove it up my ass.

 

[Voyager3]

Well said. Amphetamine can be very caustic, or acidic, and is not at all the sort of thing I fancy having shoved into my rectum, thank you! I am no prude, but having anything shoved into what was specifically designed by mother nature as a 'one way passage' seems inadvisable to me. Inadvisible, painful and deeply unpleasnt, as I discovered when having a telescope like some lorry clutch cable shoved up my bum during a medical procedure... ugh! I wouldn't have minded, it didn't really hurt (apart from my dignity) but the chaps doing the procedure looked exactly like those two gay villains in that James Bond film (was it Diamonds are Forever?), and all my self defence mechanisms fell flat (i.e. joking about it), Obviously highly trained and ordered by SMERSHH not to make any jokes, nor respond to any! That was the painful bit...

 

[ThePrincess]

Thanks for all the info I've decided to maybe use only once or twice a month so my tolerance doesn't get up there. My feet aren't constantly purple, just every now and then. I keep a close eye on my bodies reactions or changes. I wouldn't say it's close to an OD or anything just because when I do use, it's like one or two hits every couple hours. I also force myself to eat and sleep. I try to be a "responsible user" hehe
As for plugging, I'll just stick with smoking that's the only ROA I've tried & I'm not really jumpin the gun to try any other way

 

[speedballs_over]

Be careful with that damp rag you cool the bowl with, try a dry towel that won't synge (cotton, not synthetic). The very rapid cooling from the damp towel can shatter a glass pipe (depending on quality, obviously Pyrex wouldn't). Then you've got issues. Ever burn yourself with hot, liquid meth? Fucking hurts. Same goes for over-rolling a bowl and spilling it out the hole in the top (classic oil burner) type.

Just want you to be safe and not waste stuff b/c of an avoidable mistake I've made. Sorry if you feel I'm being condescending, I'm not trying to be - I made the mistake... Trying to help.