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Bupe HELP! Cant hit a Vein!

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Auras

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I have been injecting 8mg Suboxone Strips for roughly 6 months. SWIM had been doing all the work for me up until 2 months ago when he got locked up. He was very good at hitting the main vein in the crook of each of my arms. I've had the most luck with those same veins on my own but am unable to hit them consistently and have banged them up pretty bad trying. They are currently bruised and swollen. I also(now) understand the importance of rotating. I feel like i've read close to every thread on this forum regarding trouble hitting/finding veins and can't find straight forward answers to my considerably basic questions and concerns.

First off, I started out using 31 gauge/8mm needles, but recently moved to 29 gauge/half inchers because I was told I would have more success registering. Does this depend on what veins i'm attempting to hit? Lately i've been trying to register via hand and wrist veins... would a larger gauge and longer needle really HELP? Most of my veins seem to roll, and I can feel some big ones up and down the indside of my forearm but cant see them. So I assume they're deep but I cant hit them for shit. Matter of fact, I cant hit anywhere! Even the tiny ones close to the surface.

I use a new rig practically every time I try to shoot. I try to line up the needle with the path of the vein, and go in slowly at a shallow angle. Im guilty of fishing around A LOT, and I know this is why I have marks all over myself, but I dont know what else to do. Aside from the fact that I dont exactly have gifted veins, I know something has got to be off with my technique. I use a pair of panty hose to tie off (if I dont tie off I cant see or feel my veins) I have a couple fat ones that I can see/feel really well, and I just dont understand why I am never able to register. I always use the vacuum technique.

Should I be going in directly where the vein is popping out most, or should I go in "before" the veins starts/from the side/along the side? Considering im using a half inch needle, how deep should I be expecting a register? Is a 45 degree angle always the best? Lots of people have said to "feel" for the vein, or to listen for it to "pop." I have no idea what I should be feeling for. Can you explain these techniques better to me? When im fishing in my arm and I feel pain, does that mean im close to a vein? Should I move towards or away from the pain (in terms of registering, not safety) Any advice specifically on hitting wrist/hand/feet veins?

I always try to take a hot shower before hand, and excercise. Its not necessarily finding a vein thats my problem, its hitting it. I have a fat one that bulges right on the side of my wrist, and no matter what I try I cant register. Im also not looking for anyone to tell me to quit shooting, or try a different ROA. And im aware of all of the risks/diseases that can come from improper technique and not being clean enough, so please dont give me any advice on that. Im looking for specific advice on registering/technique/easy veins to hit/ any other tips or advise that you think will help me.

Until then....I'm a damsel in distress :( 8( :?
 
Dont hit your wrists i always either hit up my main arm veins or my feet. Try running your feet under hot water and hitting a vein there or go in between the toes
 
ive never understood how ppl have so much trouble hittin themselves... ive never missed a shot and only swithced between the middle n outter vein in one arm... and using the short rigs always worked best for me... pretty much can hit that shit straight up n down... but yea i guess drinking water and taking a hot shower couldnt hurt
 
You should not be 'fishing for veins' because you may unintentionally hit an artery, nerve or something else that will cause you physical harm & extreme pain.

There are maps of the circulatory system on google if you search. There are many, many veins in your arm however you must be able to see it at the surface by using one of the many techniques found in the IV megathreads. Some include technique such as lifting weights, taking a hot shower/bath as well as obviously using a tourniquet.

Lastly, I know you said you don't want this advice but I'd be remised if I didn't tell you to take a god damn break - perhaps try plugging it for a while to give your veins a break.
 
It sounds like you understand the basics of what to do. My advice is too always be slow and deliberate when your trying to hit. If your going slow and you can see your vien hitting is just a matter of depth. Or in other words how deep to push the needle in. If you have enough mass that you can't see your veins without a tie off then it could be fairly deep. However in my observation the number 1 mistake new shooters make is pushing completely through the vien. Usually its caused when they go to push the plunger down. Little too Much forward pressure and you slide right out the other side. So my advice is too go slow.
 
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I'm probably going to be the oddball here but I personally wouldn't shoot your subs. They are filled with ingredients that aren't suppose to be shot into your veins. Look at what they put into subs to get an idea. I would just snort it if you want them to hit you quicker. Shooting them doesn't produce any kind of rush as far as I know, just a quicker onset.
 
I get the strips and i'm not aware of any way to snort them. The stop signs were great no matter what way I did them, but I dont believe they make those anymore. I can get the round generic orange pills, but those things are shit. I'd blow a whole one and not feel a damn thing. Thank you all for your input, I always end up having the whole 1/2 inch in my arm moving it around just hoping i'll strike blood. Maybe im going too deep. But as I said, even the veins that are popping out and appear to be on the surface are trouble to hit. I'll go as shallow as possible and get nothing. I know I have healthy veins for the most part, and I really dont want to ruin them in the process of learning to hit them. Thanks again. Anyone else?
 
pill_billy said:
ive never understood how ppl have so much trouble hittin themselves... ive never missed a shot and only swithced between the middle n outter vein in one arm... and using the short rigs always worked best for me... pretty much can hit that shit straight up n down... but yea i guess drinking water and taking a hot shower couldnt hurt
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I have a decent forearm vein that comes out after I tie off, its real skinny though. How should I approach that? Usually ill have my left arm straight down with my fist resting on the ground, and ill twist my arm so that my elbow is facing up. Then I'll go in parallel with the vein, but I never know how deep I should be. Like I said its not big by any means. Should I reposition my arm? Like bend my fist towards my shoulder as if I were flexing my bicep and then shoot down towards my elbow?
 
Ive also always been too good at hitting for my own good. My arms are tracked my feet are tracked my hands are tracked shit even my leg has tracks if i found a vein i hit it never missed not even ounce
 
I've lost a couple veins shooting heroin. I just don't want you to fuck yourself for good. A lady I knew just died recently of a blood infection because of shooting dope. Nothing good will come out of it. You should just place them under your tongue. Besides, not to sound like a dick but isn't that why you're taking subs in the first place, to get off of stronger short acting opiates and the addiction mentality that follows? Good luck bud, just be careful.
 
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