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Help - BAD TRIP, need advice

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Hello,

I took some DOI tabs (2, very strong) on the weekend when I was really drunk, whole bottle of spirits. I can't remember the first 8 hours of the trip and apparently I was just sitting vacantly staring on a chair, non responsive.

When I came to I was extremely confused and anxious. I lost all proprioception (this has happened to me before on a trip) and I didn't even know how to communicate properly. Everything seemed fake to me, I didn't know if everything was real.

The trip subsided but the anxiety and depression have remained. It has been a week and I am now anxious and depressed 24/7. I can't function I feel so anxious and depressed, no motivation at all.

Can anyone please help me out. I feel really suicidal, if this wont stop I will have to kill myself.
 
Do you have people to go to like family, otherwise consider a professional.
And rest a lot and eat well, trust me those two things are vital for recovery.

If you feel that bad you might want to try a sedative or relaxant...
The main thing to remember is that even though some very unpleasant
experiences can take their toll for a long time after, it will surely pass.

Take a break and give yourself some rest and time!

Also check this out plz
 
Thank you so much. I just need to know that it will subside. I currently took some pregabalin (Lyrica) and it has helped a lot with the symptoms. Otherwise I could not have even made this thread I feel so shit. Alcohol also helps with the symptoms but once it wears off I feel even worse.

Thanks for ensuring me it will subside :)

I don't want to tell professionals because I doubt they will know anything about psychedelics.

I also have zero appetite. I didn't eat for 2 days. The Lyrica fixed that aswell but it will wear off. Has anyone else ever had an experience like this? It doesn't seem to be subsiding.
 
let me be definitive. it WILL subside.

i have been where you are many times. time heals all wounds, even such psychological ones. to expedite this recovery, busy yourself. stop thinking about it. as real as it feels, it was a delusion. it was not real.

please get completely sober for while. don't exacerbate the problem.

pm me if you need
 
DOX have a seriously long halftime, I noticed with DOB that I could still feel it in a way after a couple of days. Not a week's time has passed for you so considering you took not one but two tabs and had such a bad reaction to it, it's not so strange that you still feel off.
Lyrica is awesome, I've used it to come off GHB and it completely resolved any withdrawal anxiety I was having. On top of that it is a perfect feeling if you take a significant dose but we're not talking about that right now. I have symptoms right now that resemble fybromialgia or something and maybe Lyrica could work for me. There's still lots of tests to be done to check my health and issues though. I hope it's not serious!!! Bloodtest was today. :\

Back to you.
Not being able to eat is also something I have experience with, I can say with certainty that it really puts a limit on your rate of recovery if you don't eat well. Unfortunately total anorexia (not nervosa, just the temporary aversion to eating) is hard to help...

When I have felt completely wrecked after MDMA or acid especially in combinations I smoked a lot of weed and took benzo's and or GHB which all can help with protecting your nerves by inhibiting activity. In your case I would be extremely wary of smoking weed, suicidal thoughts and derealization do not mix well with it at all so keep away from it even though it helps with hunger. I also feel very hesitant to recommend GHB to you - if it would be available of course - but it could help with mood, hunger, sleep and other things that are out of whack right now. Best is to let it all get back to normal naturally but if shit feels immensely fucked up I wouldn't blame you for giving it a shot (youd need to have experience with it though).
Professionals may not usually have experience with psychedelics but they could help with the symptoms you are presenting whatever the cause was!
Lay low for a while, I don't know if it's possible for you to stay home from work or study? Locking yourself up is no good tho, just go outside if it's ok weather, try to eat some fruit, sleep a lot but do it in a day night rhythm.
Whatever you do don't beat yourself up too much and don't let yourself get stuck with the thought that it's bad right now. Try to accept that it is fucked and only time will heal you, ignore it for a bit and distract yourself with healthy activities.

Best wishes to you man!
 
Hey man, I know what you're going through. You'll pull out of it! I had a very similar thing where I had to take a benzo every once and a while because I was having bad panic attacks even after a couple weeks completely sober. I also remember thinking that if this was how it was always going to be, I might as well kill myself. But after a month the worst was over and it's only gotten better and better from there. I haven't felt any anxiety for a couple months now. Just keep yourself busy, stop drinking/caffeine, and take a benzo or pregabalin etc. when it's really necessary. Feel free to PM me if you want and good luck in your recovery!
 
^ Thankyou so much for your reassurance guys, especially cegli who seemed to be in the same situation as me. That really reassures me :). Sucks that it is going to take a month though! I don't want to get addicted to pregabalin again (have been in the past) but it seems that I may be teetering on the edge. I will try to take it only when completely necessary.

It is so unfortunate that this happened, as I had just started to feel better after a large bout of depression, and then I threw it all away by making this stupid mistake. I guess I have learnt my lesson. If nothing else, it proves the huge potential of psychedelics for altering the psyche, whether it be in a positive or negative way. The use of therapy during the session I'm sure would ensure a positive out come, whilst a bad setting and upcoming commitments results in a negative outcome.

I had to cancel work the next day. I can't believe I was so stupid as to trip when I had work in about twelve hours? I must have been so drunk that I didn't even think that through, which is ridiculous. I would never normally do that. When I called up to cancel work, I had no idea what to say, and I could tell that my boss was really sus :(. Oh wells, thanks again for your reassurance guys :).
 
eat and rest,smoke weed,fuck and watch futurama... let it go,I had something similiar with dob,but it was just anxiety.It will pass away,its all in your head... try to push that restard button in your head and relax.If you will be like "I can't function I feel so anxious and depressed, no motivation at all... if this wont stop I will have to kill myself!" you will be in this fucked up mindstate alot longer.Dont take benzo ... better to wait little bit than getting addicted to that stuff.
 
One thing that always helped me return to baseline is to remember when tripping on anything you are in a fantasy state of mind and that anything you percieved or possibly felt during that time was not how you normally feel. Think about what you enjoyed doing before had, for me its things that are major adrenaline rushes such as Motocross. If Im feeling a little down I try to pound out a few laps and that usually helps. Just make sure you have the energy and have eaten enough to do it
 
Thanks again for all your reassurances guys. It really helps to know that other people have been in the same situation. I am a little addicted to pregabalin again which sucks because I had only just tapered off it about 2 weeks prior to the trip, and it is a really hard taper to complete (for me at least). Gonna have to do it again :/. Oh well, better than what the alternative was (suicide). I can tell that the feeling is dissapating now which is very reassuring.

Thanks so much guys!!
 
Just keep thinking positive and you're going to be fine. I belive anyone who has used psychs has had some of those less than desireable trips that left them feeling down for a bit. I wont really call them a bad trip as you are still learning alot along the way. You sound like youre improving alot which is a very good sign too.
 
Permastoned, if there's nothing else you want to ask about your ordeal I'm gonna go ahead and close this.
Otherwise: feel free to ask and share, or go to our extensive list of Big & Dandy threads and stuff if that better fits you.
 
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