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Health Hazards associated with Coke

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TDK2FE

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I've been looking for a while now, and I've read several sources that say cocaine can cause things like depression, anxiety, and can damage this and that part of the brain, but the results are from tests done on people that use the stuff daily. What I was wondering was if anybody had a good source of info about how cocaine can affect you if you use it recreationally. I.E. several times a month in low dosages (1/2 gram). Thanks.
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"If we knew ourselves perfectly, we should die..."
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No neuraltoxicity in recreatonal doses have been recorded as far as I know. The toxicity level is quite high I guess. And there's the fact that cocaine uses natural reward path ways in the brain with out damageing them.
Bad side: addiction, depression, heart failer, or attack(in larger doses and binge time)
Be safe and know your limits.
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[Be All You Can Be W.O.D.]
 
There really are minimal dangers asscoiated with cocaine... of course you can give yourself a heart attack - but you could do the same if you went running or played sports (hence the reason I don't do those things - I care about my well-being and personal health!) ... lets not forgetthat snorting lots of coke is hell on the nose, injecting can REALLY get bad asthe high is so short lived you may find yourself fixing every 10 minutes or so .. smoking (crack) isn't that great for your lungs (though not as bad as marijuana) ..
In terms of it's neurological effects - it's really safe, though it COULD be neurotoxic if you really got into it...
The biggest problems are really psychological, and temporary - depression when you stop using, and shit such as that..
It's really not worth it... buy meth, you get a lot more high for your money...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
But you should mention PhreeX[egomaniac], that meth is VERY neuraltoxic (in smaller than you might think amounts).
But yea! It is more BANG for your buck[dollars]!
Now coke and meth together....well lets just say....ahhhh I won't ruin the suprise.
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[Be All You Can Be W.O.D.]
 
Um... no, that is incorrect, methamphetamine can be neurotoxic when abused - that is, when you maintain yourself on nothing but meth for days straight... or when you consume excessive amounts - but a few lines on the weekend are LESS neurotoxic then a few ecstasy pills ... IV use brings with it some increased risks, but you make it sound worse then it is...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
I do know that cocaine damages the serotonin systems, especially when combined with amphetamine, including x. The research on it is kinda weak, but i have personally seen the depression and anxiety of coke users, and there only remedy is more coke and x, fuck it!, make it an all weekend thing! As it always ends up!
Cocaine forces the serotonin systems, and it does the same to the dopamine systems, the dopamine sys. recover. the seretonin sys doesnt that quickly, which in turn causes an imbalance. Which in the meantime causes the pleasure seeking cycle. Personally I dont give a damn if u agree or not. Its the truth
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Smoke it, Bump it, Stick it up your ass!
 
Also damaging the seretonin sys is not that good of an idea(even though i definitly sould not be talking)It is not meant to be altered like the dopamine sys, which can be altered with little harm. Its when the dopamine sys stays altered, as in a coke or meth binge, the damage occurs, the damage is the ability to be excited by every day daily things,
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Smoke it, Bump it, Stick it up your ass!
 
PhreeX,"but a few lines on the weekend are LESS neurotoxic then a few ecstasy pills"
That's ridicules! ofcource a few lines of meth are less toxic than a few pills. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Your quote as I see it goes:
PhreeX,"but a stab wound to you on the weekend is Less damaging than a few gun shot wounds"
You can't compare the two. Your information has too many variables to it(meth purity & amount; pill purity & amount).
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[Be All You Can Be W.O.D.]
 
I thought it was fairly straight forward - a few lines of meth (average quality), hell, a weekend of tweaking is less neurotoxic then a couple pills (average quality) .. it was a compairson - and it's accurate enough...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
oh, and there is the research that shows that coke fries a synapse here and there ... but that hasn't really been shown to affect anyone's overall functioning (excepting the whole state-based learning thing, blah blah blah)
 
BTW,phreex the study on meth addicts i was reading about earlier(in a previous post),were results gained on people with 10-15 year habits,and they did indeed show signs of parkinism(real word?).(btw i do know you understood this).
 
Dave I told you, dammmit! Dr Deceptikon is correct, on a dose per dose basis methamphetamine is more neurotoxic than MDMA.
This makes sense if you think about it...most of the MDMA toxicity results from dopamine release, and there is even MORE dopamine release (by a significant degree) with methamphetamine use, thus MORE toxicity.
 
"smoking (crack) isn't that great for your lungs (though not as bad as marijuana) .."
Um, PhreeX are you smoking Crack?
Seriously, crack vapor is very hot, much hotter than any burnt plant. There is a whole host of problems that can result from smoking crack. This includes lung trauma, damage to the entire respiratory system, pulmonary edema, etc. You won't find anyone in the ER because of lung problems following a few uses of pot, probably even after pounds and pounds of it.
Straight from Erowid:
"2. Oh PI; Balter MS.
Cocaine induced eosinophilic lung disease.
Thorax, 1992 Jun, 47(6):478-9.
(UI: 92358464)
Abstract: A patient developed fever, bronchoconstriction, hypoxaemia, pulmonary
infiltrates, and serum and bronchoalveolar lavage fluid eosinophilia on two occasions after inhaling crack cocaine. Transbronchial biopsy specimens showed normal lung parenchyma but a dense eosinophilic infiltrate within the bronchial wall. Both episodes resolved promptly after treatment with corticosteroids. Eosinophilic lung disease may be a steroid responsive
complication of crack cocaine abuse."
 
1) Next time, please summerize the novel or post a link...
2) I maintain, on a dose-for-dose basis, MDMA is more neurotoxic then methamphetamine.. we use methamphetamine for legit medical applications, as when used in a reasonable dose, and in a responsible manor, it is NOT DAMAGING TO THE USERS BRAIN... while MDMA *IS* neurotoxic.... now of course I am not knocking either drug, and I totally agree that the experiene outweighs the negetive effects - but methamphetamine can be used with no neurotoxic effects, or at least less then that from MDMA - we have been giving it to our children for years...
My intrest in this is limited, I really don't feel like further arguing - so fairnymph, dr d, and anyone else - I disagree that meth is more neurotoxic then MDMA, if there was something in that novel that was posted, well, sorry, I didn't read all that... to each his own, I argue no-more..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Very true phreex, we have been giving meth to kids, but pharmacuetical grade meth, street meth hase a magnitude of different contaminants it it. So I would say, neurotoxicity is dose dependant. If precautions are taken( such as 5htp sups. after E use along with an ssri) like I use. Then the neurotoxicity is close to that of good meth, but the average user of x does not usually take those precations. So it is entirely dose dependant.
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Smoke it, Bump it, Stick it up your ass!
 
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