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Have you found happiness in drug use?

Several drugs bring me pleasure. But that’s not the same as happiness. And they all also bring unhappiness when I come down and when I straighten up and think rationally about my use and the likely long term damage. I’d put meth, ket, and MDMA in that category.

But LSD makes me happy when I’m high and seems to make lasting contributions to my overall sense of wellbeing and satisfaction with the world after I’ve come down - I’d count that as happiness.
 
Not in drug use but in drugs, sure. It's just been like every other kind of happiness though - fleeting. And the price for that temporary happiness has been steep.

I'd say opiates and psychedelics in particular.
 
I'm naturally kind of emotionally numb if I'm sober in not in any kind of withdrawal. Happiness is much harder to find and more fleeting when you have anxiety and depression all the time. Since drugs treat my depression and anxiety, and give me the ability to experience empathy and connection with others (depending on the drug), I would say yes, drugs are one of the only things capable of bringing me happiness. Without them, life oscillates between being gray and dull, overwhelming, or both.
I was recently sober for 1.8 years except for anti depressants. I don't regret *relapsing*. I don't know what exactly the difference between happiness and pleasure is, but I enjoy my life much more like this, and life seems much more meaningful

Of course, there is a price to be paid like tubgirl says, but I prefer to pay that price and to be in pain from time to time than to feel nothing.
 
sure have.

and misery, terror, ecstasy, fear, pain, love and fleeting enlightenment.

the key is to take nice long breaks so as to not lock your self into addiction.

addiction sucks.

getting high is fun especially with people you trust.
 
I am going through withdrawal right now on purpose so that I can get more high the next time i use :) which will probably be poppy pods, vyvanse, san pedro, weed, alcohol, gabapentin, and prazocin on wednesday
:D <---- me on wednesday
P.S. Is there an emoji with dilated pupils and red eyes?
 
ibtisam midlet said:
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It gets rid of the side effects of taking too many stimulant drugs at once, clonidine works better for me, but it can't be mixed with remeron. That way, you can take more stimulants, and still not be jittery. Most of the side effects of stimulants for me seem to come from an excess of adrenalin, some high blood pressure meds counteract the effects of adrenalin, or slow the release of adrenalin, or lower the brains sensitivity to adrenalin. Psych doctors will actually prescribe clonidine for this reason, as long as you have a blood pressure monitor, and you know what your doing, It's relatively safe. Though the prazocin/clonidine/propanolol have withdrawals of their own.
 
polarthedog said:
It gets rid of the side effects of taking too many stimulant drugs at once, clonidine works better for me, but it can't be mixed with remeron. That way, you can take more stimulants, and still not be jittery. Most of the side effects of stimulants for me seem to come from an excess of adrenalin, some high blood pressure meds counteract the effects of adrenalin, or slow the release of adrenalin, or lower the brains sensitivity to adrenalin. Psych doctors will actually prescribe clonidine for this reason, as long as you have a blood pressure monitor, and you know what your doing, It's relatively safe. Though the prazocin/clonidine/propanolol have withdrawals of their own.
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Clonidine, which I sometimes use, does not stop the neurotoxic effects of high-dose stimulants. Neither does it reduce the comedown from high-dose stimulants.

I don’t think taking it deliberately so you can absorb more stimulants is particularly safe. If you are having cardio or blood pressure problems from a particular dose of stimulants, it’s a good sign you’ve taken too much.

However, if you accidentally over-amp then clonidine is a reasonable thing to take so long as you check the interactions with other meds you are on. But your first choice should be a benzo. A small dose of benzo (5 mg diazepam) can make a surprisingly big dent in your overamp symptoms.
 
Perforated said:
Clonidine, which I sometimes use, does not stop the neurotoxic effects of high-dose stimulants. Neither does it reduce the comedown from high-dose stimulants.

I don’t think taking it deliberately so you can absorb more stimulants is particularly safe. If you are having cardio or blood pressure problems from a particular dose of stimulants, it’s a good sign you’ve taken too much.

However, if you accidentally over-amp then clonidine is a reasonable thing to take so long as you check the interactions with other meds you are on. But your first choice should be a benzo. A small dose of benzo (5 mg diazepam) can make a surprisingly big dent in your overamp symptoms.
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I don't know about the neurotoxic effects, but clonidine definitely makes all stimulants much more worthwhile to me, and gets rid of the anxiety they cause better than any other drug (for me at least), they actually work better than benzos for amphetamine induced anxiety for me.
And ya, I'll come down either way, I don't think there is any way around the come down other than not using it in the first place, the clonidine's there to increase my enjoyment during the high.
 
Perforated said:
Several drugs bring me pleasure. But that’s not the same as happiness. And they all also bring unhappiness when I come down and when I straighten up and think rationally about my use and the likely long term damage. I’d put meth, ket, and MDMA in that category.

But LSD makes me happy when I’m high and seems to make lasting contributions to my overall sense of wellbeing and satisfaction with the world after I’ve come down - I’d count that as happiness.
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i agree 100% (y)
 
Yes, although a false, temporary happiness.
But who cares if it's false? I'm on Sertraline (Zoloft) and my literally every day good mood is false. When you think about, what's the difference between the fake happiness of people who are on amphetamines or opioids and the fake happiness of people who are on SSRIs? One is socially acceptable...that's it, really.
Although, without Sertraline and other meds, I'd be dead tbf and so might my family? According to my psych anyway.*

My Psych *diagnoses me with with Psychotic Depression*
Me: what's the difference?
Psych: Between Severe Major Depressive Disorder and Severe Major Depressive Disorder with Psychosis?
Me: *nods*
Psych: Neurotic Depressives kill themselves. Psychotic Depressive kill their families.
Me: *blinks and pointedly ashes my cigarette at his white coat*
 
Happiness in drug use? Maybe relief, which could equate to same?
Most of time the happiness escapes my grasp as soon as I realize I may have just fucked up next months electric bill. :rolleyes:
Gimme some alprazolam and I feel great not having to worry about that fuck up til it runs out.
Knowing that this has been repeated ad nausea, I mainly just skip the looking for happiness and try to be satisfied with what I got. Drugs have always left me wanting and I suspect always will if I go into it looking for something it cannot provide.
My bad for gettin all serious and shit.
 
Happiness and contentedness are two different things... one is long lasting, the other is fleeting. Opioids and benzos make me happy, sometimes dissos or psychs or amps, or even weed... the duration of that happiness is generally concurrent with the duration of the drug effects :)
 
I have been happy on drugs. Any type of euphoriant (stims, empathogens, opiates whatever). I have even had a lot of what I consider legitimate and authentic joy on drugs outside of their ability to enhance my brain chemistry (mainly psychedelics and bonding on stimulants and empathogens).

I would say however that my "net" happiness from all of the drug use in my life is overwhelmingly negative. I have lost and destroyed more happiness and created more misery than each decibel of euphoria combined.

It doesn't mean I didnt need those moments of strength to survive, even if they weren't worth it in the balance
 
Yes very much so…

Most of the drugs I’ve tried to some extent or another. I’ve moved well past the stage of my life where I’m abusing certain ones, and the ones I abused I can now use sparingly.

Empathogens, psychedelics and cannabis are lovely though. They’ve done me well.

-GC
 
Well honestly drugs have brought me the most beautiful feelings I’ve felt but they have never truly giving me happiness after 10 years of abuse can’t say I’ve really had a happy moment even when high I’m still in the same spot I was years ago I keep digging a hole thank god for my family but besides that I’ve lost it all and can’t comprehend what a regular person life is or what my life could be
 
Hell no, I have more problems than ever before cause of crack+morphine.
Btw, how are u gonna find happiness in drugs? Abusing em is to run away from happiness instead
 
nznity said:
Hell no, I have more problems than ever before cause of crack+morphine.
Btw, how are u gonna find happiness in drugs? Abusing em is to run away from happiness instead
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what about shrooms
im tripping right now, and this is beautiful, i took mescaline, i would say this makes me happy
 
Parabolan said:
Have you found happiness in drug use? If so, what drugs have you found happiness in?
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I haven't found happiness. I often experience joy. Not with drugs. With people. It's always thanks to people.
I do drugs because I don't know better. It's just a habit. It's like brushing your teeth, or some other morally neutral thing.
 
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