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Have you faced death? How did you cope?

nomy

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I was going to add this cheerful question to Treacle's thread about age and dying, but thought it deviated too much.

I was wondering how many of you have faced death, or for whatever reason you thought you were dying. How did you cope, what were your experiences in accepting death.

My experience is mild compared to most, but it was intense enough at the time, and life changing too.

I remember caving in Derbyshire way back before cars were invented....probably. The golden, absolute number one rule is to tell someone where your going, then report back as you return. We did this every time with no problems. So when we entered the final cave, we thought...naaaa, we'll be fine, this is an easy one, we don't need to tell anyone about this one. So of course the inevitable happened. Deep inside the cave at a place aptly called Chaos Cavern, we got well and truly lost. It was a huge chamber with loads of exits, and we just kept going in circles for what seemed hours. Our last torch batteries were fading, we had no food and just ordinary jeans and t-shirts. I remember a feeling of utter terror and panic with the knowledge that eventual death was highly likely as the cold krept in.

Nobody had a clue where we were. There were just two of us not expected back home for another week, and only 15 years old at the time. So there we sat smoking a fag in the increasing dark as our torches slowly faded. The stuff of nightmares really, but it was odd. The panic didn't last long after we accepted we would almost certainly die and was replaced with a bizarre calmness. And impressively we had even worked out how it would be....hypothermia. Probably the best way to go. So there we were, two 15 year old kids actually chatting about how we would take our clothes off to speed the hypothermia up. Which we didn't by the way. We didn't need to, it was too cold :)

Our torches eventually ran out and it was pitch black. But still no fear. Just more smokes, and more creeping cold. Then we noticed a faint glimmer in the dark, so we blindly ran towards it shouting, thinking it was other people. It wasn't. It was a boarded up exit that turned out to be 3 miles from where we were trying to get out. We had to tear this old door down, but as we came out into the sunlight and lay on the grass, it was a feeling like nothing I've felt since. Just a feeling of how valuable and precious life is, yet the knowledge that death is not so bad when you accept it. A feeling that has never left me. Mind you, the manner of dying is the thing that scares me.

In the grand scheme of things, that experience is mild compared to traumatic injury or illness, but I'm interested in how others cope with the prospect of what is perceived as imminent death.
 
That's a pretty intense short story right there. Slowly facing death in the dark with just your torches and no idea where you were only to have the last torch fail, your eyes adjust to the near perfect blackness, then you all pick up on the tiny source of light that previously had been too dim to register and you realise there is hope after all, then clawing your way to freedom.

My near death experiences have all been surgical in nature where you know what's going to happen (more or less) 6 months before it does then they tell you things like (well, all surgery carrys risks, but we think theres a less than 98% it wont kill you and an 80% it wont leave you with reduced function. etc.) which isn't pleasant but is quite boring.
 
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Erm considering my wreckless lifestyle ive got off lightly in this situation most of the time.

One time that stood out though, was running out of my diazepam script early, using xanax a few days, then had to wait 6 days til my next refil, the 3rd day i had a seizure, and my heart stopped, had to be brought back. I was ko'd for the whole time so didnt know what was happening, but looking back it could of easily killled me if no one had seen have the grand mal seizure.
 
I nearly drowned once.I fell into a flooded stormdrain. At the time my mind just thought sort of "Oh,well....", as I was swept down the channel, but my body responded autonomously and hauled me out despite my own fatalism.
 
I convince myself I am going to die at least once a week but I have never actually been close to death.
 
I was in a high speed head on collision once. I heard the passenger say 'FUCK!!' looked up, and saw the car speeding straight towards us. You want to believe it's going to be one of those near misses that leave you wobbly legged, but the few seconds that you realise it really is going to slam into you do go into slow motion.

My final thoughts were 'this is gonna hurt and probably kill us all....' nothing more profound I'm afraid to say.
 
when i was 10 years old I experimented with an inhalor and took every last puff of it. i ended up in hopital for a few days and the verdict was, if the inhalor wasnt out of date i would have died within the hour.

another time was last year at a rave i couldnt find anything put pips and speed. id drank half a litre of vodka before the event and purchased a half g of speed in there along with 8 pips "blue question marks" by the time i got home my heart was soo fucked i literally sat there just excepting that i would die.
 
I nearly drowned once.I fell into a flooded stormdrain. At the time my mind just thought sort of "Oh,well....",

My final thoughts were 'this is gonna hurt and probably kill us all....' nothing more profound I'm afraid to say.

Yeah this is what I'm interested in. A kind of numb mental shield seems to kick in. As you say badandwicked; quite reassuring.
 
when i was 10 years old I experimented with an inhalor and took every last puff of it. i ended up in hopital for a few days and the verdict was, if the inhalor wasnt out of date i would have died within the hour.

They made that bit up and lied to you as a kid to put you off doing it again.

It's the stuff like the Butane and other volatile chemicals they use as propellants that get you high and it's this stuff that generally (unless you are huffing ant spray) kills you. They 'don't go out of date' ever unless you set fire to them.

Not that i'm saying solvent abuse isn't bad. You're better off addicted to pretty much anything than solvents, in terms of harm to health they've got all the other readily available drugs beat hands down. Solvent Abuse - Just Say No

I'm just saying you're old enough to know the truth now - it wasn't the fact the spray polish was out of date that saved your life. You were just lucky and / or didn't inhale quite enough,
 
Yeah this is what I'm interested in. A kind of numb mental shield seems to kick in. As you say badandwicked; quite reassuring.

Was it fatalism towards death or fatalism towards the situation? Because if you're hurtling down a storm drain a calm state of mind regarding the situation is more likely in you surviving than either panicking and screaming or else going catatonic thinking you are about to die.

Did your state of calm allow you to take protective actions you might not have if you'd been kicking and screaming?

If so you can look at it in terms of evolutionary psychology; you're ancestors stayed calm in the face of near certain death rather than turning into gibbering wrecks of fear and so were more likely to pass on their genes and you can now say the same.

JJ-180 said:
I nearly drowned once.I fell into a flooded stormdrain. At the time my mind just thought sort of "Oh,well....", as I was swept down the channel, but my body responded autonomously and hauled me out despite my own fatalism.

I've had a few 'high speed dismounts' (or crashes as everyone else calls them) on my mountain bike where everything slows down and a sense of not quite fatalism but of calm certainty to let the situation resolve the best means possible without panicking. Falling well like this comes with practice with a lot of sports and i wonder if the phenomena are all connected and you just tapped into it by chance (not being a practiced storm drain surfer) and got lucky. I know i take a lot less damage when i fall properly and calmly than when i panic.
 
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yes your right it was an inhalor for asthma lol not an airosol can of some sort. although i have stupidly done tht too:|

You could be right though and i can't be assed re-reading it all to double check. If so - what an arse, trying to get high off asthma inhalers. Zero sympathy from me - letting the side down:\
 
Nomy, really enjoyed your tale, interesting and well-written.

I came closest to death a few times as a teenager trespassing on the roofs of tall buildings, I think. I remember creeping around an abandoned block in total darkness, looking for the stairwell and feeling a sudden updraft. I lit a match and saw that the barriers round the lift shaft had been removed and I was about four inches from a seven storey drop into the basement. That would probably have done it.

I got the slow motion thing when I was cycling and got tangled up with a car and dragged round a corner. Luckily we were going in the same direction and I remember fitting in a lot of thoughts in a very short time, in a very dreamy and detached way as I lifted my legs out of the frame and sort of surfed the crossbar of my bike, which was being pushed along trapped between the kerb and the vehicle.
 
Only time have been near misses in the car or during heavy ketamine trips. I was going up a pretty steep hill so couldn't see anything coming the other way till the top at about 60. When I got to the top both lanes had cars in coming straight towards me. The car on my side swerved in front of the other and missed me by what seemed like inches. I was totally calm when it was all happening but about 30sec afterwards my adrenalin really kicked in - like you say, survival mechanism for sure.

As for the ket trips there was one not long ago where I can't stress in words just how much I lived through an experience of dying. I became death and time stop still, everything was just ash, black and disintergrating, including myself. I felt that this is what dying is in it's completeness - pure nothing. Then, while pretty calm (which ketamine trips of any kind generally are when you dose high) I started to be reborn. I was beginning to travel up as a pure white light, faster and faster until I exploded into life with music playing all the way through to a cresendo.

It was truly insane and pretty traumatic. I just lay and attempted to make sense of what I'd been through, my g/f lying next to me peacefully asleep. Ever since then I know that my thoughts around death have greatly increased along with a pretty nihilistic outlook. Not good. Looking back, I'm starting to view a fair few of my heavy K trips as being truly traumatic and I wondered if, on some level, I experience post traumatic stress as a result from time to time.

Anyway, WELL off topic now so I'm zip it.
 
I have but it's not a story others would feel comfortable hearing.


Basically left for dead. Spent a while on a respirator and a couple of weeks in hospital recovering. Wasn't pleasant but I ended up the person I am because of it.

Well I was that person. Happy go lucky. Not so happy these days but the times, they are a changing. I'm getting back to my old me slowly but surely.
 
7/1/2010 I contracted menegitis B alone at home... By the time I managed to get help it was pretty much too late. My dad was told I have about half hour to live and if im lucky ill make 2 hours! I died soon after, they got me going again but I was in a coma for 5 days... Were going to amputate my feet but found a faint pulse in them. In the end ony a few toes fell off!
I was too close but I survived. Facing death is hard but its woken me up. I find the positive in everything. Best thing tht coud of happened to me! I got a second chamce at life and im not wasting it x
 
Was it fatalism towards death or fatalism towards the situation? Because if you're hurtling down a storm drain a calm state of mind regarding the situation is more likely in you surviving than either panicking and screaming or else going catatonic thinking you are about to die.

Yeah, the body has more chance of survival if it goes into ragdol mode when under physical trauma, so no point in fighting it.

I suppose what I'm getting at is the calmness that comes from analysing the situation given the time, and yet still accepting death. So fatalism yes, but with time to think.

I have but it's not a story others would feel comfortable hearing....

I'd be very interested Sadie.

7/1/2010 I contracted menegitis B alone at home... By the time I managed to get help it was pretty much too late. My dad was told I have about half hour to live and if im lucky ill make 2 hours! I died soon after, they got me going again but I was in a coma for 5 days... Were going to amputate my feet but found a faint pulse in them. In the end ony a few toes fell off!

Wow. Truly life changing huh? I presume when you came out of the coma, you knew you would survive? If not, how did you cope?

Morbid git aren't I?
 
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