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Esoteric Have you ever felt spiritually enlightened?

CavernsoftheMind

CavernsoftheMind

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As an agnostic atheist I feel weird writing this.

Have you ever felt like you reached absolute enlightenment, the state people claim Buddha must have reached?

I did a month ago, after consuming MDMA, ketamine & N2O.

During one N2O ballon I felt like my "soul" is gonna leave my body soon & that I should let it happen without resisting.
I told that to my trip partner who answered with "the next balloon is gonna be very fun for you".

I inhaled another balloon & suddenly felt like being sobered up completely. I got absurdely calm, 100% zen & my trip partner instantly knew that something special was happening & started looking at me.

For the next 5 minutes I felt like an umbilical cord between me & "god", "source", "life energy" or whatever you wanna call it opened up.
The energy, the basis of all life pumped through me. I may have never felt as clear headed, in the moment & calm in my entire life.

I felt like I'm experiencing enlightenment.

After a few minutes the connection started to closed off again, the feeling getting weaker & weaker.

I feel like this is the state that's the basis for a lot of religions & cults. That everyone can find their connection to that state & can use it for good or for evil.
That you're perfect while being there 100%, as soon as you lose some of it, your ego can chime in & do bad stuff with the aura / radiance you give off to other people.

Have you experienced something similar?
 
pupnik said:
the term absolute just does not come into the picture, no matter how high definition it comes to be.
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Agreed on that statement.

Delusion to me is something different. To me delusion is seeing reality wrong or according to ones own beliefs instead of what reality really is. Like a person that says the world is flat. Something like that.... I think.

But over the years I have tried to understand what enlightenment could be. Yet the term is thrown around as if someome "reached" something that others did not. Almost condescending. Like I reached enlightenment and you didn't. (everything starts pure and then becomes a damn religion doesn't it?)

Actually when I finally understood it I realized the kind helpful soul that never gave a thought to enlightenment was enlightened. To me I get to the place where one understands that being KIND is what enlightenment is. Full Stop.

I died once on a nitrous and LSD trip. I died on my first ketamine trip (only worked once then I abandoned the drug wrote it off as a hospital drug), I have had mushroom trips where I saw the ripples of my actions affecting others, then seeing me as the source of everything. I have seen my highest self. All of that can be called an enlightening experience. But does not make me enlightened (as a noun).

Since the word enlightened has the word light in it, we all have moments where light shines on a dark area and we get understanding. That works too. More as a verb instead of a noun.

One thing I learned is if light shines on a dark area and a person understands and uses what he learned to help others, that can be an enlightening experience.

Good post @CavernsoftheMind. I have had so little time for the boards right now but I check this one. I needed this today. Still thinking on it. And I consider a lot of my experiences enlightening. But I would never say "I am enlightened" except if it were for a specific moment where at first I could not understand and then I do. The light shines on.
 
Chaurus said:
Yes, but the feeling always went back away again.
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Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.

It’s true none of that seems to lessen the pain that we have here on earth. I have a feeling it’s just something we take with us that we will be able to apply one day in some fashion. It must have some purpose. Even if it’s just moving mankind ahead, even in technical ways. I think.

Then again, before Internet, chop wood and carry water. After Internet, chop wood, carry water…
 
CavernsoftheMind said:
Have you experienced something similar?
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Oh yes!

I've had glimpses of this several times tripping on shrooms or acid, usually when I'm in the woods.

But the most profound experience occurred during sensory deprivation while on a massive dose of shrooms. I felt like I traveled throughout the Universe and became One with Everything, beyond space & time. It was indescribably ecstatic, like having endless "spiritual orgasms."

Never before or since have I been so disappointed to come back into so-called reality. It seemed obvious that the True Reality was back there where I was before.

It changed my life. I've remained extremely skeptical of any form of organized religion (they all miss the point), but spirituality is something I take very seriously.
 
JackARoe said:
Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.

It’s true none of that seems to lessen the pain that we have here on earth. I have a feeling it’s just something we take with us that we will be able to apply one day in some fashion. It must have some purpose. Even if it’s just moving mankind ahead, even in technical ways. I think.

Then again, before Internet, chop wood and carry water. After Internet, chop wood, carry water…
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It's Nothing, isn't it?

A brief moment in between things. It's here and it's now. We just aren't most of the time.

It's like an Alan Watts lecture, like a piece of knitting, elaborately and cleverly set up, only to pull the string and have the whole thing unravel at the end.

The answer is: there is no answer.

Lord, I'm boring and predictable.
 
Chaurus said:
It's like an Alan Watts lecture, like a piece of knitting, elaborately and cleverly set up, only to pull the string and have the whole thing unravel at the end.
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True, but as we see it can change a life in drastic ways even if fleeting. And what I learned from DMT is we can have an experience and not bring it back to regular daily consciousness. But the after effects, the profound changes these experiences cause is real. Like NDE's.

I have to say though, here in 2025 I would give anything to simply chop wood and carry water all day. That simplicity is enticing. We are in a technical sh*t show that steals our peace. Put me back in 1800's where I only lived till 45 years old and waited for the bail of hay all day as work. Somehow they made it through.
 
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