Mental Health Have you benefited from pharmaceuticals or vitamins or supplements? MENTAL HEALTH

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As far as considering aids to improve mental health, have you benefitted from any pharmaceuticals or supplements/vitamins?

If so, please also mention the particular drug or supplement/vitamin,the dose taken, and how long it was taken for.Also,mention how these substances specifically provided any benefit and the original reason for taking them. I'm asking the question with hoping to focus primarily on long term benefits noticed with these particular substances and not those that only have provided short term benefits but end up failing to prosper with any long term gains.
 
Vitamins: B-12 lingual or a B combination shot every week. Hema-Plex for Iron- it works well with my stomach. Vit. D, Calcium, Magnesuim. I use the dose as directed on the bottle. I also take Amino Acids which I bought at a great Vitamin store.

The Iron and B Vitamins are very important since I'm anemic. Everything else compliments the rest.
 
Vitamin D soft gel 2,000 IU, or 50mcg, helps with my depression very much so. It's marketed under "Natures Made" and I take 2x daily.

Vitamin B-complex (marketed under "Natures Made") with C. 1 pill daily. This helps with my immune system, stress, & moods. It's contents are as follows:
Vit C: 500mg
Thiamin: 15mg
Riboflavin: 10.2mg
Niacin: 50mg
Vit B6: 5mg
Pantothenic acid: 10mg

My doctor also gives me a vitamin B shot 1x every 2 months - not sure on dosage.

In addition to this as a side note I take 2,000mg vitamin C in the gummies for immuno support - ever since I had mononucleosis at 16 (I'm now 21) I get sick very easily but all these help TREMENDOUSLY.


Browsing here and here may also provide you with some good info!

Just as a caution the 2nd link may have some triggering material even though its from HL, so mods you may want to double check <3..
 
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I take viibryd, 40 mg daily..its helping me quite a bit, although I am far from cured. I was prescribed this for depression and it took a few weeks for me to feel bettr.
 
ive been looking into stuff like Piracetam and Phenibut, have some ordered, maybe im caught up in the hype but if they can help me over come this fuckin endless loop of fuck ups(scoose mah french) i will no doubt be one happy yang
 
ive been looking into stuff like Piracetam and Phenibut, have some ordered, maybe im caught up in the hype but if they can help me over come this fuckin endless loop of fuck ups(scoose mah french) i will no doubt be one happy yang
I was thinking of ordering some too, but I'm kinda iffy about phenibut considering most reports lead me to thinking its either hit or miss.

What happened to the good old days of being able to get GHB at GNC?
 
Effexor *puts on flame suit* its allowed me to function socially again.Just had my dose upped from 75mg to 150mg (the next dose im told) and also have stopped smoking weed and i feel great.Everyday i wakeup with a happy glow :D
 
I'm allergic to milk so I've been taking calcium supplements every evening for about ten years. Two pills of Caltrate every evening and I've apparently got normal levels of calcium so I'd recommend that to anyone with a potential calcium deficiency.
I also take two pills of Multibiane every evening, it's a multi-vitamin supplement with 11 vitamins & 5 minerals. I have noticed that when I don't take it for an extended period of time, I don't feel so good.
When I'm in particularly bad shape I take 1g UPSA vitamin C every day for a bit, it helps.
Aaand in exam periods/stressful times etc, one pill of D-Stress in the morning, one in the evening.

These may all be french brands though, not sure. But if you have access to them I've only noticed positive results.
 
Personally I think multivitamins are worthless if you have a good diet. I think vitamin supplements are only really worth taking if you have serious deficiency. I am not really aware of any evidence taking broad spectrum multivitamins do anything whatsoever for the average person. It's just designed to waste your money on something you do not need.

I feel differently about essential fatty acids though. I think most people could benefit from using them, definitely.
 
As far as considering aids to improve mental health, have you benefitted from any pharmaceuticals or supplements/vitamins?

Yes but I don't think TDS is the right place to discuss this, I wouldn't want my post to be seen as "triggering".

Personally I think multivitamins are worthless if you have a good diet. I think vitamin supplements are only really worth taking if you have serious deficiency. I am not really aware of any evidence taking broad spectrum multivitamins do anything whatsoever for the average person. It's just designed to waste your money on something you do not need.

I feel differently about essential fatty acids though. I think most people could benefit from using them, definitely.

I completely agree, and do not take multivitamins. I do however have a synthetic intramuscular B-12 prescription.
 
Personally I think multivitamins are worthless if you have a good diet. I think vitamin supplements are only really worth taking if you have serious deficiency. I am not really aware of any evidence taking broad spectrum multivitamins do anything whatsoever for the average person. It's just designed to waste your money on something you do not need.

I feel differently about essential fatty acids though. I think most people could benefit from using them, definitely.

Well yeah of course, I mean the only point of supplements is to supplement whatever you're not getting through food after all. I take multi-vitamin supplements cuz I know I don't get enough otherwise. I'm probably getting an excess of a few vitamins because of that but in general I can tell it's doing me good.
 
I mean the only point of supplements is to supplement whatever you're not getting through food after all.

And who fits this category of not getting enough from their food to warrant needing a multivitamin? Hardly anyone in the western world. I'm not saying these people don't exist but the vast majority of people have no need whatsoever for these pills. The people that take them are in general the people most likely not to need them.

I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just my opinion at the end of the day and you should do what you think is best for health. You're the best person to make decisions about your own health so I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong. My comment wasn't really directed at you by the way, it was more of a general point I was trying to make.

Check this out:

Time to kick the multivitamin habit, studies suggest

Daily supplements don't help prevent disease and may actually cause some harm

If you're like many Prevention readers, multivitamins have been a key part of your daily routine since... well, forever. As recently as 2002, no less an authority than the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended that "all adults take one multivitamin daily." We at Prevention have suggested them to you dozens of times over the years as well. And many doctors and nutritionists still urge a multivitamin to any "less-than-perfect eater" to compensate for dietary shortfalls.

But today, a tsunami of scientific data has resulted in a reversal in thinking among many experts in the health and nutrition community, including Miriam Nelson, PhD, director of the John Hancock Research Center on Physical Activity, Nutrition, and Obesity at Tufts University. "The multivitamin as insurance policy is an old wives' tale, and we need to debunk it," she says.

The sea change is supported by two massive studies. The first, a review of 63 randomized, controlled trials (the gold standard research method) on multivitamins, published by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, found that multis did nothing to prevent cancer or heart disease in most populations (the exception being developing countries where nutritional deficiencies are widespread). In the second paper, published last year, scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center followed 160,000 postmenopausal women for about 10 years. The researchers' conclusion: "Multivitamins failed to prevent cancer, heart disease, and all causes of death for all women. Whether the women were healthy eaters or ate very few fruits and vegetables, the results were the same," says the lead author, Marian Neuhouser, PhD.

Maybe you never expected your multi to prevent breast cancer or head off a heart attack. Maybe you just felt that taking one would make you healthier by boosting your immunity or energy level. But research on those benefits is equally discouraging, especially in specialized groups on which you'd expect them to have an impact. For instance, a British review of eight studies found no evidence that multis reduced infections in older adults. Another study found that the vitamins didn't improve fatigue among breast cancer patients undergoing radiation therapy. And inner-city schoolchildren who took a multi did not perform any better on tests or have fewer sick days than students who didn't take one.

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"There is even a small body of evidence that may suggest harm from a multi," says David Katz, MD, MPH, director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine. A 2010 study of Swedish women found that those who took multivitamins were 19% more likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer over a 10-year period than those who didn't. A 2007 paper in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute found that men who took multivitamins along with other supplements were at increased risk of prostate cancer. And other research has linked excessive folic acid intake to higher colon cancer risk in people who are predisposed. "In terms of a risk-benefit ratio," says Dr. Katz, "why would you accept even a tiny risk if you're not getting any benefit?"

Buyer beware

It still shocks people that the FDA doesn't regulate supplements, including vitamins, minerals, and herbs, the same way it does for drugs. Supplements don't have to go through any safety testing before they hit stores. Despite 2007 legislation that marginally increased the FDA's authority, health and safety critics say the FDA doesn't have enough resources to oversee the industry.

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Some new bills proposed in Congress would give the FDA more oversight and enforcement muscle, but in the meantime, these aisles are truly buyer beware zones.

Protect yourself: Choose products with seals from quality-testing companies like United States Pharmacopeia (USP) or NSF. Supplement companies pay to have their products evaluated according to these more rigorous protocols, which check for contaminants and ensure products contain exactly what their labels say.

You can also subscribe to ConsumerLab.com, an independent testing organization, for reports on specific supplement groups, like omega-3s. Finally, don't take any supplements without talking with your doctor. Many interact with medications or can worsen health conditions.

-Prevention

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So why were earlier researchers so wrong? One reason is that they were studying the wrong people. It's now well known that people who take vitamins tend to be some of the planet's healthiest to begin with. Researchers have shown that vitamin takers tend to be leaner, more affluent, and more educated. They drink and smoke less; they exercise and go to the doctor more. In other words, they're healthy despite their use of multis.

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In addition, the very concept of a multivitamin as nutrient delivery system is limited. We now have a much better understanding of how well whole foods deliver their nutritional benefits. A typical multi contains 10 to 25 isolated nutrients, but fruits and vegetables have hundreds of active compounds with a long list of health properties. "The vitamin C in a multivitamin is likely just not as effective as the vitamin C in a citrus fruit, where it's also surrounded by fiber and flavonoids and carotenoids. All these nutrients working together is what really keeps you healthy," explains Dr. Neuhouser.

So even when you're not eating the healthiest diet, there's no proof that a multivitamin is the right tool to fill in the gaps. "And it doesn't make up for the main disease-fighting nutrients the average American woman is missing, like fiber, omega-3s, and vitamin D," says Dr. Katz.

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For his part, Dr. Katz no longer recommends multis to most of his patients, nor does he take them himself. Neither does Kathleen Fairfield, MD, associate chief of medicine at Maine Medical Center and coauthor of the 2002 JAMA article that recommended multivitamins as a prudent health measure. Many Prevention advisors who specialize in cancer or nutrition research recently told us they've stopped taking and recommending multis as well.

Story: You're Eating More Vitamins Than You Think

So should you quit cold turkey? It's true that the average American woman—whether a healthy eater or not—probably won't benefit from a multivitamin. But the supplements are still recommended for certain groups, based on eating habits or lifestyle. And most women do still need a few strategic supplements to make up for certain dietary gaps.

To help with your decision, Prevention interviewed more than 10 nutritionists, doctors, and supplement experts and examined USDA, FDA, and other government data. The chart below reveals how their advice applies to you.

If you are... And your daily diet includes these foods... Do you still need a multivitamin? ... Prevention recommends these supplements

1. 50 years old or younger

Vegetables: 2 ½ c
Fruits: 1 ½ c
Milk/dairy: 3 c
Meat/beans: 5 oz
Grains: 6 oz (half whole grains)
No

Vitamin D: Up to 800-1,000 IU daily (less if you live in a year-round warm climate and get 15 minutes of unblocked sun every day). Get it from a separate pill or with calcium.

Omega-3: Up to 1,000 mg daily if you don't reliably eat fish such as salmon 2 or 3 times a week.
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Calcium: Up to 1,000 mg total from food and supplements. If you don't eat 3 servings of milk/dairy, take the equivalent in a supplement that contains vitamin D.

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2. 51 years old or older

Vegetables: 2 c
Fruits: 1 ½ c
Milk/dairy: 3 c
Meat/beans: 5 oz
Grains: 5 oz (half whole grains)
No. But adults over 50 may absorb less of certain nutrients, such as vitamin B12, from food. If you don't eat a lot of dairy or meat, talk with your doctor about B12 supplements.

Vitamin D: Up to 800-1,000 IU daily (less if you live in a year-round warm climate and get 15 minutes of unblocked sun every day). Get it from a separate pill or with calcium.

Omega-3: Up to 1,000 mg daily if you don't reliably eat fish like salmon 2 or 3 times a week.

Calcium: Up to 1,200 mg total from food and supplements. If you don't eat 3 servings of milk/dairy, take the equivalent in a supplement that contains vitamin D.

Vitamin B12: 25-50 mcg if your doctor recommends it.

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3. Pregnant

Vegetables: 2 ½-3 c
Fruits: 1 ½-2 c
Milk/dairy: 3 c
Meat/beans: 5-6 ½ oz

Grains: 6-8 oz (half whole grains)

Yes. During pregnancy, requirements increase slightly for a number of nutrients, including vitamin C, folic acid and other B vitamins, and iron. Choose a prenatal formula with at least 600 mcg folic acid and 27 mg iron, or ask your doctor to prescribe one.

Ask your doctor whether you should take an extra vitamin D, omega-3 (some Rx prenatal vitamins contain omega-3s), calcium, or iron supplement. Never take an iron supplement unless your doctor specifically recommends it. (If you're not anemic, too much iron can be harmful.)
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4. Vegetarian (You don't eat meat, poultry, or fish.)

Same as #1 if you're 50 or younger; same as #2 if you're 51 or older. Eat the meat equivalent in beans, legumes, and nuts.

No. As long as you eat dairy and plant-based protein and leafy greens, you're getting a wide variety of nutrients. If not, ask your doctor whether a multi is recommended.

Same as #1 or #2 depending on your age. Buy a plant-based omega-3 supplement.

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5. Vegan (You don't eat any animal products, including dairy or eggs.)

Same as #4. Milk/dairy servings convert to plant-based fortified milks.

Yes. It can be challenging to get nutrients such as vitamin B12, calcium, and iron from a vegan diet.

Vitamin D: Up to 800-1,000 IU daily, including the amount in your multi. Get the rest from a pill with calcium, below.

Omega-3: Up to 1,000 mg daily. Buy a plant-based omega-3 supplement.

Calcium: Up to 1,000-1,200 mg total (depending on your age) from food and supplements, including the amount in your multi and in a combined D supplement.

6. Dieting (around 1,200 calories a day)
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Vegetables: 2 c
Fruits: 1 c
Milk/dairy: 2 c
Meat/beans: 4 oz
Grains: 4 oz (half whole grains)

Yes. Such a restrictive diet makes it difficult to get optimal vitamin and mineral levels.

Vitamin D: Up to 800-1,000 IU daily, including the amount in your multi. Get the rest from a pill with calcium, below.

Omega-3: Up to 1,000 mg daily if you don't reliably eat fish like salmon 2 or 3 times a week.

Calcium: Up to 1,000-1,200 mg total (depending on your age) from food and supplements, including the amount in your multi and in a combined D supplement.

7. Worried about bone health

Same as #1 if you're 50 or younger; same as #2 if you're 51 or older. Really work on those dairy servings.

No. Omega-3: Up to 1,000 mg daily if you don't reliably eat fish like salmon 2 or 3 times a week.

Calcium/vitamin D: Ask your doctor about the right dosage for you. Some women with osteopenia or osteoporosis may require superhigh levels of vitamin D.

Additional reporting by Lauren Gelman
 
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I know it wasn't aimed at me, just wanted to give my experience.
The multiple blood tests I've had over the years show that I'm not getting nearly enough vitamins from what I eat despite eating about 6-7 fruits/veggies a day, and I'm absolutely sure I'm not a rare case - it really isn't that unusual. Regarding the article, it doesn't really convince me of much simply because there are hundreds of contradictory articles on the subject that all make their findings sound like the right ones...so I'm just judging by personal experience, and what I can say is I do honestly feel more energetic and just overall better when I'm taking my multivitamins :)
 
for me...

chellated magnesium (morning&night) ~ after 2-3 weeks of taking this consistently (so hard), i start feeling on top of the world

P5P is part of my tranquility stack
 
I'm really interested in seeing more responses, generally and in large numbers I hear very little positive about pharmaceuticals in the long run and I'm sure people would not be taking them if they did not work but what do I know. Then on the other end, the supplements and naturals, you tend to hear a lot more positive things.

But it may just be todays day in age of the general consensus starting to think supplements/naturals= natural/good and then pharmaceuticals= synthetic/bad.
 
i think naturals > synthetic mostly because they have been around long enough for us to know if they will effect us positively/negatively

pharms also tend to be band-aid (or permanent band-aids) solutions with a lot of dodgy side effects
 
I know it wasn't aimed at me, just wanted to give my experience.
The multiple blood tests I've had over the years show that I'm not getting nearly enough vitamins from what I eat despite eating about 6-7 fruits/veggies a day, and I'm absolutely sure I'm not a rare case - it really isn't that unusual. Regarding the article, it doesn't really convince me of much simply because there are hundreds of contradictory articles on the subject that all make their findings sound like the right ones...so I'm just judging by personal experience, and what I can say is I do honestly feel more energetic and just overall better when I'm taking my multivitamins :)

Yeah it sounds like your doctors specifically have checked your blood work to see if you really need them, and it sounds like you do. So it's good that you made sure they were a necessary supplement before beginning them. :)
 
i think naturals > synthetic mostly because they have been around long enough for us to know if they will effect us positively/negatively

pharms also tend to be band-aid (or permanent band-aids) solutions with a lot of dodgy side effects

There are plenty of harmful naturals, ones that are even toxic and lethal....surely there is an abundance if not an even greater amount of dangerous naturals as there are synthetics.
 
Yeah it sounds like your doctors specifically have checked your blood work to see if you really need them, and it sounds like you do. So it's good that you made sure they were a necessary supplement before beginning them. :)

Oh yeah definitely. I find it a bit annoying to be taking so many pills, especially on top of my pain pills & sleeping pills too, so I wanted to make sure it was actually necessary!
 
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