harder? physical vs. mental WD and detox vs stay clean

[RedRum OG]

so im sure these have probably been discussed somewhere before. but for any given addictive drug, is the physical or psychological aspect more painful when W/Ding? for me its my mind going crazy that gets me to keep getting high when i want to stay/get clean. i suppose the DOC would affect it... i assume with dope wd's its the physical but even for me with oxy it wasnt.

when addicted is it harder for you to break the cycle and ignore the intense cravings because of withdrawal? or.... is it harder for you to maintain your life and not eventually slip back into old ways for long periods of time?

 

[Sweet P]

I've found psychological withdrawals more difficult (and yes, I have experienced both with meth and benzo withdrawals). I can deal with sickness, aches, pains, and even seizures. I can't deal with psychosis, suicidal depression, and panic attacks. The cravings are also a bitch.

 

[Znegative]

I think they both suck. psychological is worse, because thats what always keeps me coming back. but when I'm sick , the combination is HORRIBLE. I really cannot function in the morning until I fix up. There are also times throughout the day, when I would rather not have to run into the bathroom and shoot up, but I need to, that can be a depressing situation.

In the end though, its the psychological addiction that gets me physically addicted. When I do opiates, I want to stay high all day. The days of weekend joybanging ended a long time ago, and no matter how much dope I buy, I can never make it last.

 

[RedRum OG]

yea for the last 3 years ive been madly psychologically addicted to opiates. but not physically. get doped out 2-3 times a week.

 

[ech0s85]

mentally for sure. I can be on sub and feel fine, but as soon as a certain amount of time passes i start to fiend hard. Ive never made it past three days but im sure that would ease up after a week.

I always just seem to go on autopilot and end up high when i try to kick. Even if im feeling fine ill start fiending and be like....well ill call this guy up and see if he needs anything, cuz he probably wont but at least i tried. Some self sabatoging shit. And ive just accepted that somehow someway i will always get my hands on 20 bucks if i know i can cop.

 

[Sound_Chaser]

I'm at the mental state right now and THIS SHIT SUCKS. So bummed out all day, played my show in Willimantic(THE HEROIN CAPITAL...COULDN'T FIND SHIT!)and I'm just fuckin chillin now waitin to be in Brooklyn all day tomorrow tryin to score. This shit sucks...I can't wait to be in Philly in 2 days and get my Subs.

Being on the road and being sick is not fun AT ALL. I've scored 3 times on this tour, one was bomb shit, once was weak shit, once wasn't even shit. Brooklyn here I come!(in 12 hours ).



Seriously...fuck this

It feels like I posted this 10 hours ago.

I'm gonna try and sleep for a few hours and wake up at like 9 and go back to downtown and try to find something.

 

[ech0s85]

^i feel you

I called my dude right before they closed, and his runner never showed up after he turned his phone off for the night. Going home and sleeping til the next chance to score is horrible.

 

[FiatFlux]

Psychological withdrawals are worse for me. Ive been clean off P (meth) for about 5 weeks now and every night when I dream its always about meth. Last night, for example, I dreamed I had a point and spilled the bag all over the floor. The rest of the dream consisted of me trying to pick little crystals out of a fuzzy ass carpet. wtfffff.

 

[unsettled]

Benzos are the only drug that once I became dependent on I have never been able to come off of them. I got really close once but I'd say it's a tie between the mental and physical hell of benzo withdrawal that keeps me on them. They don't even get me high, they just help keep my anxiety in check.

Everything else I've been able to get off of, including opiates. The thing that always brings me back is pure psychological craving. When I'm sober too long I get this strange sense of "everythings going well but this is really boring and I sure would like to get high and just relax and listen to some music....or whatever". Opiates are the main drugs that I continue to go back to these days.