Heroin H on suboxone

[inkindulgence]

I am a mid 20's average weight female and have been on suboxone for a year, gradually tapering down over the last month to where now I am on about 1mg a day. Last dose was 18 hours ago of 1mg. I have not done any opiates other than sub since before I started it. Before, I had an oxy tolerance of about 160mg a day just to stay straight, to get high it would take me about double that.. I have no idea what my tolerance is to opiates now with the sub. I have never done H before. With 1 gram of powder, what would be a sufficient starting amount for insufflation for a person? Thank you.

 

[misspharmacyashley]

if you haven't done any opiates for a year and are on 1mg suboxone a day your tolerance is LOW. if you stopped sub today you might withdraw for a day or a couple hours..

as for the heroin, start small is my best advice considering you don't know how potent it is and your tolerance is so low.

 

[amapola]

Also the 1mg of sub could still slightly be effecting you (blocking some effects), though 18h is likely enough time for almost all blocking effect to be gone, still don't use whatever dose it does take you to get where you want now as a baseline if you use again well after being off sub.

Since we can't know the strength of your heroin nor your tolerance as misspharmacyashley said all we can say is start small.

 

[daddysgone]

if you haven't done any opiates for a year and are on 1mg suboxone a day your tolerance is LOW. if you stopped sub today you might withdraw for a day or a couple hours..

as for the heroin, start small is my best advice considering you don't know how potent it is and your tolerance is so low.

I disagree with your statement regarding how brief and minor her withdrawal would be.

She has been on maintenance for over a year and even though 1mg of bupe sounds like a small amount, if she were to jump off from 1mg she would experience pretty heavy withdrawal. I think one of the biggest errors bupe docs make (and they make many), is they have their patients jump off from far too high of a dose. I think it is crazy to jump off from anything abouve .25mg, and I would suggest tapering even lower than that.

People think "well I started at 32mg and am at 1mg now so I have basically dropped down to nothing". While this thinking is correct with full opioid agonists, with bupe, 1mg is still a decent sized dose and will cause pretty nasty withdrawal if one were to jump off from this dose.

I know this has nothing to do with the OP's question, but I just wanted to add that.

 

[comatoserct]

just do small lines until you get where you want to be
always can add on, can't take away once it's in you

 

[MissZee]

I disagree with your statement regarding how brief and minor her withdrawal would be.

She has been on maintenance for over a year and even though 1mg of bupe sounds like a small amount, if she were to jump off from 1mg she would experience pretty heavy withdrawal. I think one of the biggest errors bupe docs make (and they make many), is they have their patients jump off from far too high of a dose. I think it is crazy to jump off from anything abouve .25mg, and I would suggest tapering even lower than that.

People think "well I started at 32mg and am at 1mg now so I have basically dropped down to nothing". While this thinking is correct with full opioid agonists, with bupe, 1mg is still a decent sized dose and will cause pretty nasty withdrawal if one were to jump off from this dose.

^^^
This. I know someone who went from taking 75ml of Methadone daily down to 5mg daily. Even though 5ml was such a tiny amount, he couldn't go a day without it.

Anyway, to the point; Like previously said - start of small. How are you planning on taking it btw, snorting/smoking??
I would say start off on something like 0.2, which should be sufficient enough I would imagine.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You're just going to have to try some and titrate upwards.

I would start with about 50 mg first, depending on how cut it is, you might need up to 100mg to understand how a baseline dose will effect you.

You can always do more but you can't use less once it's been taken.

These kinds of threads best belong in BDD so I'm going to close this. Please look in the OD Directory for the Bluelight Opiate Conversion Chart.