Heroin H and blood pressure (and propranolol with h)

[Lechium]

The h ive got out here was been pretty bad and almost always made me really anxious sometimes almost to the point of panic attacks.
I got some today that was actually pretty good. I recently snorted a little bump and smoked some (a few hrs after doing a medium sized shot). Now that little bump I did kicked in and I got a minor feeling of slight anxiety-mostly that my heart was beating kinda fast. I used my blood pressure monitor that i recently got to see what my heart rate was. My pulse was up to 96 (pretty high considering h is supposed to slow down the heart) and my blood pressure was really high (like 142 over 98 )! I pretty sure h is supposed to usually lower blood pressure too right? Any ideas what could be the deal? Maybe some cut thats in it? I did smoke a cig like 30 min ago and I usually dont smoke but that couldnt have increased it that much...

I have had sum anxiety and slightly high blood pressure occasionally that was mostly due to the anxiety and ive seen a doc that gave me a script for propranolol 20mg tabs. So my other question is- is it safe to take propranolol on h?

I just found a very interesting bit on propranolol that says taking it before h can cause presipitated wd....wonder if there is any validity to this- http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(72)91959-9/abstract

I was definitely about to take some to calm me down but now im extremely hesitent...does anyone have any experience with propranolol and opiates?
I have some .5mg lorazepqms maybe that would be a better choice in small doses right now instead of the propranolol.

I did take 1 20mg propranolol this morningut that was 14 hrs ago and I didnt have any of this bad anxiety or anything earlier after doing the shot of h it didnt start till like half hr after I snorted and smoked a little more.

also I just recently got the propranolol script so that definitely was not that cause of my anxiety/panic attacks after h those last times when I had sum bad stepped on dope.

I used to use h all the time back in cali and not once had any feeling like this from doing it....I just want to enjoy h once in a while again and its just not happening nowadays....

I just read another study that says propranolol didnt cause any bad interactions with h- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/60091/

wither way my bp is 149/95 so im kinda freakin out. I took a .5 ativan hope it helps....

my bp got up to almost 160/100...since the .5mg ativan kicked in it calmed me down and i took some l-theanine and did some pushups in hope that some exercise would help lower my bp. it helped and now im down to an 85 pulse and my bp is 135/83 feeling much better but still would like input on what could have cause this reaction.

i was thinking the previous bad batches of h that i got before which caused me anxiety and panic attacks so many times maybe conditioned the bad response in my body and now i have it every time i use h; however, after i did the shot of this good batch i didnt have any bad feelings- those didnt start till after i snorted some and smoked some more. smoking it brings it on much quicker and i didnt have this bad experience start till like 30 min or so after i snorted a little bit. i was thinking maybe the bit I snorted just happened to have more cut in it? what i shot was some of the "rocks" or solid pieces which was also what i smoked. what i snorted was the powder that came with it so maybe that had more cut in it? its weird though because back when i got the bad batches i had the opposite reaction-- i used/shot the powder first after which i was fine and i saved the "rocks" for last thinking i was "saving the best for last" but whenever i shot the "rocks" i was getting the bad anxiet/panic attacks.

kinda sucks-i was, and still am, an opiophile at heart but im starting to think that my days of abusing opiates are at an end. one thing is for sure- the dope in cali was almost always great and never caused any bad reactions but the stuff i been getting here (from richmond, VA) has been straight crap. sometimes i had batches that were all cut and im sure had no h in it at all and the last time before this good batch i had some weird crap that didnt have any rush, but instead created an opiate like body high a min or so after IVing and no euphoria and that body high would only last like 15-20 min...i actually tossed lots of the bags i got after just a few uses because its been so bad/cut. definitely a sign that its time to put this bad habit to rest.
i definitely want to use up this good stuff i have but a bit worried ima have another bad anxiety attack.

well i feel like im just talking to myself since no one else has chimed in so ill leave it at that and hope i get some good ideas/responses sometime soon. thanks in advance for the feedback.

 

[ShaunG]

I'm no H expert and I don't use needles but prob just cut to hell. If the shot felt good just shoot it or maybe filter it and waterline it if u wanna snort it? At least that will get some of the cut out...

 

[fizzymk]

Yeah, Id say the dope from CA is definitely alot better than shit in VA...I get bad batches here and there, but thankfully its rare to get crap, Ive never had any H that didnt produce at least some euphoria, so I think maybe you need to find a better connection. Try getting some from someone else and see if its the same shit, if its a small area, it may be, but if you live in a fairly large metro area, there should be a variety of types around at all times.

 

[dirzted]

Not saying this shouldn't be taken seriously, but I feel like getting a blood pressure monitor would make your blood pressure go up, know what i mean?
Like if you have anxiety already and are worried about the H you're using is causing High BP, wouldn't it be completely natural for you to then do H, easily get tripped out about it, check your BP (which is slightly high cuz you're tripping out), see that its kinda high, trip out even MORE, and then be convinced your H has bad shit in it when really you were just overly paranoid?

Not trying to be mean or anything, honestly the reason i say that is because it sounds like something I would do.

Hope it all goes well

 

[Lechium]

dirzted- i do think that once i check my blood pressure and notice that its sky high that does cause more panic/anxiety but the whole reason i checked it was because i was feeling bad to begin with and already had high pulse and bp-- its not like i had normal bp and checked it and then it flew through the roof.

fizzymk- are you from va? unfortunately i only have like 2 connects and their stuff is basically the same. this last batch was the best ive got so far tho i cant complain. i live in the hampton roads area and unfortunately the connect i got is in richmond so thats already about an hr and a half drive so you can imagine how much it sucks to drive that far and then pay such a steep price and have it end up being a bad batch or it being short (like this good batch that i got was supposed to be half a gram and it was really .3 when i got home and weighed it). really sucks because i spend 40 bucks just on gas to go get it but thats the only hookup i got and i never really go out and try coppin out here or anywhere ive never done that and it just doesnt seem safe to me though ive definitely thought about it.

ANYWAY BACK TO THE SUBJECT- i did a few shots today and didnt have any problems, though they were very big shots either because i was trying to stay functional enough to study for a test i got tomorrow.
Either way id love to get to the bottom of this.

Mostly now i am just looking for any advice on interactions between opiates and propranolol. Does anyone have any experience taking the two together or on the same day?

 

[fizzymk]

dirzted- i do think that once i check my blood pressure and notice that its sky high that does cause more panic/anxiety but the whole reason i checked it was because i was feeling bad to begin with and already had high pulse and bp-- its not like i had normal bp and checked it and then it flew through the roof.

fizzymk- are you from va? unfortunately i only have like 2 connects and their stuff is basically the same. this last batch was the best ive got so far tho i cant complain. i live in the hampton roads area and unfortunately the connect i got is in richmond so thats already about an hr and a half drive so you can imagine how much it sucks to drive that far and then pay such a steep price and have it end up being a bad batch or it being short (like this good batch that i got was supposed to be half a gram and it was really .3 when i got home and weighed it). really sucks because i spend 40 bucks just on gas to go get it but thats the only hookup i got and i never really go out and try coppin out here or anywhere ive never done that and it just doesnt seem safe to me though ive definitely thought about it.

ANYWAY BACK TO THE SUBJECT- i did a few shots today and didnt have any problems, though they were very big shots either because i was trying to stay functional enough to study for a test i got tomorrow.
Either way id love to get to the bottom of this.

Mostly now i am just looking for any advice on interactions between opiates and propranolol. Does anyone have any experience taking the two together or on the same day?

No, I dont live anywhere near VA, but I do understand your situation. It may suck, but have to take whatever your connection gives you, not much you can do except find another guy, although my dude is pretty cool about shit like this, if you dont like it or feel shorted and can prove it, they will make it right. I try not to take advantage of this though, because after all, they can give you whatever they like and if they start thinking of you as a problem customer, then they may not want to deal with you anymore, but thankfully, I have known my connection for many years, so I rarely have problems like that.

Plus you have to remember prices are always changing, it depends on what they pay to their connection, so if you go in asking for $80 worth (around here a gram is usually $150-$180), that is not always going to mean its a full half gram, I know my guy charges based on what had to pay to get it, some batches are better than others, so they are going to charge more per gram for this, thats just a given though.

Your best bet is try to find a new connection, but I would NEVER just go around asking people you dont know about this...that is way too dangerous, best way is to go thru friends of friends, or at least someone you know and knows you, this way both of you can be sure the other is not a cop.

Good luck.

 

[Lechium]

^ ya man im pretty sure im done dealin with this guy. I once bought a gram and got .33. Next time he said he hooked me up since I got shorted so much...I got .4 instead of .5 . Its just not worth it anymore especially the couple times I go out and spend about 100 bucks (with gas) and get .3 and it ends up being total crap too I dont know why I bothered going back- h is a hell of a drug I guess. Ya I aint going to go around asking strangers I think its just time for me to move on and leave this shit behind.

 

[The Doc.]

^^ yea that's why I'm so glad I stick to my pharmaceuticals now so no more asshole drug dealers that know they got you under their thumb cause your addicted to their product. IVe been ripped off 500 bucks for a whole 8 ball years ago it was all the money I had so I had to be sick for a week till I had money again it was a friend I bought it from too. I rememver a few times coming home after being sick for so long ready to get my fix only to find out its not even heroin just some caffeine powder or sumthibg. And every small time dealer that uses slowly starts ripping you off point by point until you end up getting half what you pay for I think I'm getting a gram nope its a half gram uhhh so shitty I was so glad to tell that old friend who screwed me for 500 off when he called me asking to borrow money after not speaking to him for 6 months it felt so good to be able to finally call him an asshole and that he deserves everything he gets.

 

[Lechium]

Ya I was weak of will and decided to get some more since it was good...ended up with shit thats not even half as good and really regretting that decision. If only I had a time machine to go back and smack myself silly for the dumb things my mind tricks me into doing...