Opioids Going on vacation to get off opiates, good or bad idea?

[starlett7]

My bf and I are planning on going away in a couple days to Cuba or something to get away from opiates because this way we won't be able to get our hands on any no matter how bad we want them! We are getting off fentanyl and from what I've heard and read the withdrawals are the worst on the third day so we are just going to take diluadids and T3s for 2-3 days until we start our vacation in hopes things won't be TOO unbearable after.

I'm just starting to wonder if it's a good idea to do this as we obviously won't have access to any medication (OTC or prescription) or other things we may need to get through this.

What are everyones thoughts on this? Good or bad idea? If good, what should we pack to get through this hell!

Thanks guys!

 

[Ksa]

Are you crazy? If you travel somewhere you must increase your opioid dose to account for the exhaustion and agitation of airports, travel etc., not decrease it. If you want to go in withdrawal you do it in bed, with water, food, medication and phone within hand reach.

What if your flight is canceled and you have to run around the airport for 8 hours to re-schedule your tickets?

 

[starlett7]

Well we're not bringing any with us so there won't be any increasing of anything except feeling like shit lol.

And thats just the initial part of the trip, even if things go wrong they'll be over and we'll be spending a week at the beach in the nice weather. I'm more worried about access to things we may need, not so much the stress of getting there.

Also everyone says to keep busy during withdrawal, going away seems like a really good way of doing so!

 

[T. Calderone]

I've got mixed feelings about this since I've tried detoxing at home alone using vacation time from work. I would end up caving in and getting more oxys. One time it did work for me though using codeine tablets. But then a week later, I went right back to my old habit.

My last time trying to go on "vacation" I checked myself into a hospital detox. I was truly desperate and scared I couldn't do it by myself. That was how I finally got clean for good. Until you're really ready, it doesn't matter where you detox. I would rather be comfortable at home but that didn't work well for me. If you're thinking you might slip up, there's a good chance you will. Wish you two the best!

 

[starlett7]

I just figured a vacation to somewhere hot and nice would be good because the weather has a huge impact on my mood and right now its cold n nasty here has been for a while and probably will be for a while longer. I have anxiety and slight depression to begin with so it'll be worse during withdrawal and my atmosphere has a HUGE impact on how I feel so I'm hoping being out in the sun and hot weather will help keep my spirits up.

I love getting high but I think I'm ready to get off... my friends and little brother bust my as about being on this stuff all the time and I don't want to rely on this shit forever... I just want to be back to how I was before all this crap. Not to mention I'm always broke!!!

 

[Ksa]

Well we're not bringing any with us so there won't be any increasing of anything except feeling like shit lol.

And thats just the initial part of the trip, even if things go wrong they'll be over and we'll be spending a week at the beach in the nice weather. I'm more worried about access to things we may need, not so much the stress of getting there.

Also everyone says to keep busy during withdrawal, going away seems like a really good way of doing so!

Have you ever experienced an opioid withdrawal before and how much of what opioid are you taking daily?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

yeah it souds like a good idea at first. But you need your home comforts. Your favourite chair, books, films, music & tv programs. A warm bed to lie in all day, with a bucket next to it. You wont have any energy. The last thing you will want is hot sunshine IME. You will be dehydrated from vomiting and constant liquid shits. To loose even more liquid through sweat sounds dangerous - sun stroke, or some type of collapse seems possible.Darkened rooms FTW.

You will have NO mental or physical energy either. 20 minute top ups of sunshine in the cooler parts of the day, now and then could be therapeutic though..

The only positive is that you may have trouble repleneshing your supplies. Even then some sharp eyed local/waiter might suss what you're going though and fix you up with something....

Sounds like a female u/n but it's a very macho, tough guy, way of doing it.

Having said that if it's your first WD it will be less harsh than any others you may go through down the line. The first one can see you 100% physically well in 4 days (the mental side is another matter).

Subsequent w/ds get tougher and tougher.

 

[starlett7]

I've been smoking about half a fentanly patch a day, sometimes more sometimes less. I've went through withdrawal for one day before when I tried to stop but the anxiety and lethargy made me feel awful. I experienced restlessness and minor RLS plus the cold sweats and nausea... I always gave up after a day or two though so I haven't expereinced the full thing.

 

[Ksa]

I've been smoking about half a fentanly patch a day, sometimes more sometimes less. I've went through withdrawal for one day before when I tried to stop but the anxiety and lethargy made me feel awful. I experienced restlessness and minor RLS plus the cold sweats and nausea... I always gave up after a day or two though so I haven't expereinced the full thing.

This is bullshit, you wana kill yourself go ahead but leave your boyfriend out of it...

Hot weather, scortching sun with risk of hepatitis...You got my opinion.

 

[starlett7]

yeah it souds like a good idea at first. But you need your home comforts. Your favourite chair, books, films, music & tv programs. A warm bed to lie in all day, with a bucket next to it. You wont have any energy. The last thing you will want is hot sunshine IME. Darkened rooms FTW.

You will have NO mental or physical energy either. 20 minute top ups of sunshine now and then could be therapeutic though..

The only positive is that uou may have trouble repleneshing your supplies. Sounds like a femal u/n but it's a very macho, tough guy, way of doing it.

Having said that if it's your first WD it will be less harsh than any others you may go through down the line. The first one can see you 100% physically well in 4 days (the mental side is another matter).

Subsequent w/ds get tougher and tougher.

I just feel bad laying in bed restless all day and I feel like I should get up and do something, but when your on vacation your SUPPOSED to lay around doing nothing lol. I get the cold sweats really bad so I figured the hot weather would help, and for the body aches as well but mostly for my mood.

I do agree about the comfort thing though.... he's very set on going now and gets pissed off at me when I bring up reasons not to go...

 

[starlett7]

This is bullshit, you wana kill yourself go ahead but leave your boyfriend out of it...

Hot weather, scortching sun with risk of hepatitis...You got my opinion.

He is totally down for it as well, he's actually getting angry at me for doubting this choice... which is why I came here to ask for opinions. No need to get snappy, I just wanted to hear other people's thoughts geez.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

TOP TIP: Take plenty of Immodium with you , and a couple of rehydration scahets just incase.

If you're ill to the point to not having enough energy to stand up for more than minute or 2, there's nothing for it but bed rest.

I was into o-desmethyl tramadol (200 stonger as an opiate than tram)/

Felt like death on day 1 in WD. Longest day ever. But I felt 25 % physically better every following day when my supply ran out. It left an emotional and mental emptiness in its wake though. Hence attempt number 1 was not successfull. Wasnt prepared for the PAWS.

 

[starlett7]

Ahh good idea! Didn't think of the rehydration sachets. As for immodium, I read it works amazing for withdrawal but how much should I take?

 

[Ksa]

I just feel bad laying in bed restless all day and I feel like I should get up and do something, but when your on vacation your SUPPOSED to lay around doing nothing lol. I get the cold sweats really bad so I figured the hot weather would help, and for the body aches as well but mostly for my mood.

I do agree about the comfort thing though.... he's very set on going now and gets pissed off at me when I bring up reasons not to go...

My mom thinks the same way. She always needs her sunny weather and IKEA furniture to have any extracellular dopamine and is always thundering around when she doesn't have it. She blames her bad mood on the weather, atmospheric pressure, clouds, day of the week or on other people's behaviour. She blames her diseases on processed food, VOCs, Es, additives, GMOs, food irradiation. She always eats every crap that's labeled organic and claims everything else causes cancer. Orange juice is toxic because it contains sugar which weakens the immune system. Coke causes cancer due to presence of 4-methylimidazole. She is always petting her white dog for some extra dopamine and watches Cesar TV show to idolize the puppet.

And every once in a while...she explodes in tears of a rage fueled temper tantrums, hating her life, hating her family, hating...everything and everyone. Deep down she knows...she knows she's got it ALL fucking wrong.

You see, in this life, the key to everything is understanding. You need to understand that you cannot rely on weather, a drug, a dog or another person in your life to be in a good mood.

 

[starlett7]

I do understand that! I know I can't rely on that stuff to make it go away but it will help me while going through withdrawal. The mental part is a lot of the reason I go back to it so I feel that being in a place that makes me feel good while I'm mentally feeling my worst will help keep me strong. Although coming back will be quite depressing in itself...

I do kindof beleive the things your mom says though... about the crap in our food. It's incredibly full of chemicals and sugar and all that other crap that we don't need and shouldn't have in our bodies. Eating well can improve the way you feel, and sun does have an impact on mood!

 

[mydrugbuddy]

It works for relieveing diarehea nd also contains some very mild opiate, which can help slightly with the effects of WD on the opiate receptors in the intestines. Start at recomended doses, but gradually increase if its not working. You dont want to poop yourself on the beach lol.

It wont get you high unless you take 200 pills and something to help it cross the blood brain barrier (not recommended)

 

[Ksa]

Well, take me for example. Outside there's a snow storm, it's all dark and cold and windy, I'm in Ottawa now. My Dexedrine bottle is empty and I have no opioid. I get the refill in a few days. I am alone in my room, I have no reason whatsoever to be happy and yet, I am in a state of cottony feeling of well being, having a conversation on bluelight. If I can do this, you can do this and your bf can too. Take Yoga classes and do some meditation and if you can't, just sit with your body straight in a dark/silent room with your eyes closed for an hour without moving.

At first you get all sort of thoughts and random crap like how your trip is going to be, what your bf will say or do...but after a while, the thoughts will start to change in nature, do that and see for yourself. You will see what trully matters.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I dont know what the food hygeine and bacteria levels are like in Cuba, but they are bad in Turkey, even when in the prime of health and resistance.

 

[bdomihizayka]

I moved to Russia to get away from heroin..... totally worked for me. 6 months sober. I couldn't find heroin here if I wanted to....... I think it's a great idea!

 

[tricomb]

Horrible idea. Every trip I've taken during withdrawals ended up sucking all of the fun out of my family, friends, and lovers. Your like a black hole of energy and that feeling of helplessness of "Im XXXXX miles from home/heroin dealer" and everyone around you will hate that shit.

Either get clean BEFORE or get clean AFTER. not during.

$0.02.