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Opioids going crazzy without my roxys killin myself with percs could use some helpful advic

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wishinihadoxy

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ok im taking 20 percs a day 6500mg apap smh

and i cant help myself im not turning yellow or getting any pain but i am worried im slowy fucking up my liver i norm get 30mg roxys without apap and i was up to 10 of em a day and now i can only get 5/325 percs and i need atlest 20 daily to keep myself cool im 21 weigh 130 i start taking them around 6 am finish aroun 7 pm i dont drink alcohal ive tried cwe and it never seems to work i follow instructions right but dont get any feeling from the left over water so i dont like waisting them i do drink alot of green tea and i was recently at the hospital to get my liver checked and they said it was fine but thats when i was at 5000mg apap a day does anyone have some helpful advice i get the worst cravings when i try to stop it never works ive thought bout methadone clinics but they told me i need to not take anything for 12 hours before my visit and that aint guna happen so i dont know what i should do i feel stuck in a loop
 
You have to either learn how to do a CWE properly or suffer the unnecessary/very dangerous consequences of APAP on your system.
What are they prescribed for?
 
id try buprenorphine (suboxone) before methadone

And im not trying to be your therapist here, but if you dont ease off a little bit I can see someone with your habit and attitude turning to heroin real quick.
 
You dont need to be a psychic to predict the next move of opiate addicts
 
Fire&Water said:
Cool..an online psychic !!
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Don't be an asshole. A lot of people on this site have a lot of experience with opiates and opiate addiction. Whether they've put a dent in their own lives or watched people close to them fuck up theirs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone with firsthand experience warning someone with less experience about the very serious and dangerous world that is opiate addiction. Shimazu is not trying to be a know-it-all, he's trying to potentially save another human being a ton of agony. This is a harm reduction website after all. Anyone who wants their drug habit justified by an outside party is in the wrong place.
 
I just had a similiar conversation in Healthy Living. That's a dangerous amount of apap you're taking. You only have one liver and once it's compromised, you could be well fucked. I would consider the methadone over all those tablets with apap. 12 hours is really not so long to wait.
 
APAP is absorbed very poorly when plugged so you can do a lot and be alright so I would Plug em all, but you would probaly have to do at least 2 plugs for 20. If their small you can just load em in the barrel till its full then draw up water and shake. It would be easier to powder a bunch then dump the powder into the oral syringe and draw up water. Its easier to get it into a pluggable paste.
 
Yeah that is a very large amount of APAP. Whatever you do, whether you get on methadone, bupe, etc, definitely do not just keep taking that amount of percs. Your tolerance is only going to increase for the oxy, resulting in you taking even more APAP. Your liver will thank you if you save it all that punishment.
 
majorigpa said:
Don't be an asshole. A lot of people on this site have a lot of experience with opiates and opiate addiction. Whether they've put a dent in their own lives or watched people close to them fuck up theirs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone with firsthand experience warning someone with less experience about the very serious and dangerous world that is opiate addiction. Shimazu is not trying to be a know-it-all, he's trying to potentially save another human being a ton of agony. This is a harm reduction website after all. Anyone who wants their drug habit justified by an outside party is in the wrong place.
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It could be that you're the sixth sense of assholes...
 
Ya know that sentence doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, but i get the point you're struggling to convey. Unfortunately, wherever you go, most people in that place are probably going to be smarter than you and have more to offer other human beings. And right now, in this place, some of those people want to help the OP with what could potentially be a very serious problem. Please allow that to happen.
 
I dont know the rules for Methadone clinics in waiting for 12 hours before you can does but thats messed up if its true. i would think if you need help getting off drugs, they should be able to help you a.s.a.p.
 
You really need to practice the CWE technique. It won't arouse suspicion like you suggest, I'd highly recommend you give it another go.

That amount of APAP can cause imminent and quite deadly damage to your liver. It isn't an exaggeration of any sort; many people die (truly, MANY) yearly due to acute/chronic APAP overdoses.
 
You are ingesting an immense amount of APAP, it's twice the recommended upper limit (3000 mg/day). Good thing your liver is ok for now, but you are risking acute liver failure anytime.

The only way is to learn to do a CWE properly. Please tell us how many pills and how much water have you used. Too much or not enough water can botch the extraction. Tell us more about the technique you used for the CWE, we'll try to help. Hot water will also ruin the opiates, you need to use warm water...
 
You're going to have to figure out something because that's way too much acetaminophen to be ingesting on a daily basis. You might be an extremely rare case, but i guarantee at that rate your liver will just fail one of these days without warning. That is generally what happens when you keep fucking with organs, they usually just go. You might have done the CWE incorrectly, but you never really get 100% out of a CWE. You gotta figure it out though, stopping for 12 hours isn't really a big deal especially when considering your other option of liver failure. 12 hours off of opiates and you're going to be in mild withdrawal, then you can get methadone. That's a pretty good option.
 
TheLostBoys said:
I dont know the rules for Methadone clinics in waiting for 12 hours before you can does but thats messed up if its true. i would think if you need help getting off drugs, they should be able to help you a.s.a.p.
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I bet the 12 hour wait is so he doesn’t go into precipitated withdrawal.

12 hours isn’t really that long. Every time I run out of my script early it’s always been at least 12, 18 or more hours into even days. That’s been with either Oxycodone, or Hydrocodone. On the Oxy I was @ 120mg - 180mg a day and an average of 150mg a day.

Leaping Gnome
 
Bro, as said before: CWE. I'm allowed to put how to CWE here right? Anyways you never really said how many pills you take per hour or whatever, but i suggest taking either all 20 or doing this twice a day. Say mix 10 ground up percs with warm/almost hot "ish" water id use a cup? Idk i cant picture a ratio in my head maybe 2 cups, in some sort of bottle mix super well and put it in the freezer JUST before it starts freezing not sure on time but an hour maybe an hour and a half. Since the acetaminophen isn't cold water soluble the water will be just oxycodone. Now I'm sure like 5-10% apap gets in the mix but that snit shit compared to before. Anyways use a cheese cloth or i even used a white t-shirt because i didn't have a cheese cloth. Cut a part of a old (obviously clean) tshirt maybe 12'' by 12'' and use a thick rubberband or hair tie around the top and I'm sure the rest is self explanatory. Now, there is going to obviously always be some drug left over so do another wash over again with the left over powder starting with warm water. I wouldn't do more than one repeated rinse or you may end up getting a little too much unnecessary apap, but you should be in the clear doing it 2-3 times. Although 6.5g apap a day wont kill you it will sure harm you more than needed especially you can take the 5 minute prep and hour wait of the CWE and save your liver a lot. Also the plus side is since its liquid it should absorb quicker. Its gonna taste nasty so i think you could even use some kind of juice. I always used white natural cranberry juice because its proven to slow down the metabolism of most if not all opiate/opioids especially oxy. Please be cautious with apap, its worse for your liver than probably all the chemicals you consume every day. Oh and its early I just got some dillys in my arm so I'm feeling rather talkative so don't mind if i overlooked someone already explaining this. Foreal, seems like you are getting dope sick man, if you are going to continue to subject yourself to it id look into some potentiation like taking 30mg dxm 45mn before dose cranberry juice a few hours and the hours leading up to and with the dose and maybe some diphenhydramine/ dimenhydrinate (benadryl antihistamine) a half hour before the dose. Sorry for the long ranty post. Give your liver a hug for me :D
 
id look into some potentiation
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That sounds good to be able to take less APAP.

The last couple of months when I was on the Oxycodone I drank "white" grapefruit juice. I found I could take about 1/4 - 1/2 less of the Oxy I usually did. I didn't find it to make the Oxy much stronger, maybe a little, but it stayed in my system a lot longer. Instead of wanting to re-dose @ 3 - 4 hours, I could go 6 - 8 plus hours and be fine.

The down side was when I ran out it was the WORST WD's I'd ever had!!! I think that was from it giving a much longer 1/2 life.

The other down side for "me" was one of the blood pressure meds I take the grapefruit juice wouldn't let it work. (I guess that's called a prodrug where it needs the liver CY-whatever enzyme to make it work.) With that I stopped drinking the GF juice.

Leaping Gnome
 
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