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God created man. Man created illusion. Illusion created belief. Belief created God

fieryslash

fieryslash

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Life is an overly complicated paradox that naturally eludes human beings because we are sentient. If we weren't sentient, then we wouldn't be "alive", or so we call it. We are hypocritical when it comes to questioning our very own existence because we are allowed and capable. God is just a pattern in reality that is fueled by us to keep us believing that there is something to look forward to after we die and to make us have that feeling of comfort and that we are righteous in our actions here in this universe. Some people think they have everything they could ever want in life but what about the needs of others? We turn a blind eye to the ones who are suffering because they need guidance. Humans should be helping out but ironically we don't and because of that reason we are evil and bad and that is exactly why we feel pain and grief because we are shrouded by an illusion that we cannot see. Think of life as being a blind person. We are able to experience reality but we cannot see, which is the paradox of life. There is nothing that will save us from ourselves but ourselves. We are the cause in the effect. The ego in the id. Stuff that cannot be classified into words or emotion is the very essence of what we are made of. If you look at ourselves in a microscope, you would see this kind of stuff floating around. Happiness is like a glass half full/empty; experiencing both sides at the same time produces a feeling of being in and out of reality and cannot be expressed into words. I want my 2 cents back.
 
^LOL. Some points there, yes, but your assumptions might be seen as bottomless- some of them (like the blatant disqualification of "God" or "afterlife" based out of an idea that we're self-reinforcing in a way, compensating). Not that they are wrong. You seem like you have some resonant thoughts of mine, but along with it a stream (which is necessary sometimes) of some stuff, echos... free associations? (Don't take personally). As Crack says, it might benefit us to have more clarity into what you're wanting to discuss/debate.

Your title is interesting, but it can't really be backed. It's sort of fancy, though. I doubt man created illusion (at first) but then again... And at least two of those seem to cancel each other (but such might seem to be in the nature of nature). Then it might also mean that man and God are the same, which in a sense is definitely true.

Regardless... Interesting. Please continue.
 
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twentysix said:
^LOL. Some points there, yes, but your assumptions might be seen as bottomless- some of them (like the blatant disqualification of "God" or "afterlife" based out of an idea that we're self-reinforcing in a way, compensating). Not that they are wrong. You seem like you have some resonant thoughts of mine, but along with it a stream (which is necessary sometimes) of some stuff, echos... free associations? (Don't take personally). As Crack says, it might benefit us to have more clarity into what you're wanting to discuss/debate.

Your title is interesting, but it can't really be backed. It's sort of fancy, though. I doubt man created illusion (at first) but then again... And at least two of those seem to cancel each other (but such might seem to be in the nature of nature). Then it might also mean that man and God are the same, which in a sense is definitely true.

Regardless... Interesting. Please continue.
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Agreed. Man didn't create illusion as though they synthesised a new chemical. It's not synthetic, it's pseudo-existent and it's comprehended by humans - not 'synthethised'. As for wrong or evil? Who's to say what evil truly is other than the intentional deprivation of one other's liberty. Just because one ignores other one's suffering (perhaps out of selfishness or carelessness) doesn't necessarily mean they're evil.
 
What I'm trying to say is that life is not all about religion. I am a man of science and believe that things that cannot be explained can be, but not in a humanly way. A man wakes up one morning and believes he is man. But when he falls asleep that night, he changes his mind and believes he was created from God. To me it the pattern looks like a never ending cycle of "I am this, but I really came from this so how can this be possible" story.

When that thought enters your mind about God, it becomes a important to realize how faithful you really are. Sometimes I feel like I'm stuck in a black hole that I can't escape and from learning from experience, I can assure myself that I really do have faith in something I cannot begin to fathom. I hope I made my statement more clear about what the first post was about.
 
i completely understand exactly what your trying to say. The bottom line is humans are responsible for their own lives, we create our own suffering and misery then we ask ourseleves why its happening and we blame others. Our true nature and the truth cant be expressed through words, it must be experience. there is no god in heaven or hell, god is everywhere, god is what you make of him.
 
It's a cold world out there and nobody wants to feel it. I think everyone subconsciously feels guilty, some more than others, but it doesn't really matter as long as the tvs on and there's ice cream in the freezer. In life your either meek or your humble, the more comfortable you are the less you know about true emotions. People dont know how diluted they really are, everything is a drug.
 
I think that thats a convincing answer to the cosmological argument the "who created God". When you get into this kind of discussion shit stops making sense - youre dealing with a realm outside time and space. Youve created a closed circle with God creating man and man creating god. Creator and created are one and the same. That way there is no first cause just an infinite cycle of creation.
 
crossroads said:
It's a cold world out there and nobody wants to feel it. I think everyone subconsciously feels guilty, some more than others, but it doesn't really matter as long as the tvs on and there's ice cream in the freezer. In life your either meek or your humble, the more comfortable you are the less you know about true emotions. People dont know how diluted they really are, everything is a drug.
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"Everything is a drug" People dont realise how true this is..just think about it for a second. People hate on Chemical drugs only, but the truth is addiction can happen with almost ANYTHING. Its not only drugs that are addictive and can ruin your life lol.
 
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