GHB/GBL related brain damage

[CrimpJiggler]

Last night I took 5g of GHB and an extra 1mL of GBL. I fell asleep but woke up about 3 hours later feeling like I was going to die. I was sick but what was worrying is my brain wasn't working properly at all. I could hardly make it back to my bedroom because I couldn't remember the way. I was completely disorientated and didn't really know what was going on. Luckily, a lot of my cognitive abilities seem to have come back to me. I'm still worried that I might have suffered some kind of hypoxia induced brain damage though. I have woken up sick after going to sleep on GHB before but this is the first time I have ever been disorientated like that. I honestly couldn't figure out the way back to my bedroom and ended up wandering around the house looking for it. I should have taken some piracetam before going to bed. Has this happened to anyone here before?

 

[lightforce]

One night I was high on meth and was doing GHB and accidentally took too much, i think it was like 3 or 4 caps within an hour. Anyways i started to G out but never fully past out. It was a weird buzzing feeling in my head and i too thought i had fucked up my brain. Had no clue what was going on or whee I was. After about a day the feeling went away but it definitely scared the shit out of me.

 

[Renz Envy]

One night I was high on meth and was doing GHB and accidentally took too much, i think it was like 3 or 4 caps within an hour. Anyways i started to G out but never fully past out. It was a weird buzzing feeling in my head and i too thought i had fucked up my brain. Had no clue what was going on or whee I was. After about a day the feeling went away but it definitely scared the shit out of me.

I have been there. GHB in high quantities while on meth is a very "neutral" feeling.

Last night I took 5g of GHB and an extra 1mL of GBL. I fell asleep but woke up about 3 hours later feeling like I was going to die. I was sick but what was worrying is my brain wasn't working properly at all. I could hardly make it back to my bedroom because I couldn't remember the way. I was completely disorientated and didn't really know what was going on. Luckily, a lot of my cognitive abilities seem to have come back to me. I'm still worried that I might have suffered some kind of hypoxia induced brain damage though. I have woken up sick after going to sleep on GHB before but this is the first time I have ever been disorientated like that. I honestly couldn't figure out the way back to my bedroom and ended up wandering around the house looking for it. I should have taken some piracetam before going to bed. Has this happened to anyone here before?

Sounds like the dopamine rebound caused quite a bit of anxiety. You're fine, OP. Be better about dosing GHB from now on.

Any time you plan to take monstrous doses, always have enough to taper off the rebound so that it is not uncomfortably stimulating. The rebound should be "pleasurable" and never uncomfortable or paranoid.

 

[CrimpJiggler]

One night I was high on meth and was doing GHB and accidentally took too much, i think it was like 3 or 4 caps within an hour. Anyways i started to G out but never fully past out. It was a weird buzzing feeling in my head and i too thought i had fucked up my brain. Had no clue what was going on or whee I was. After about a day the feeling went away but it definitely scared the shit out of me.

Yep, that sounds like what happened to me. I've had this weird buzzing feeling in my head all day. I just found out that I was probably overdosing on GHB regularly because I've been having this buzzing feeling every day. I'm quitting GHB for good starting tonight. I'd been using it to sleep but I kept getting muscle cramps last night so I concluded that the cramps were caused by ingesting too much sodium so I decided to supplement the GHB with GBL which was clearly a huge mistake. My last dose was 12 hours ago and I am feeling way better now. I was anxious and could feel pressure in my head and felt tingling on my face and head for the whole morning and felt like crap. I went to the doctor about this a few days ago but I didn't know about doctor patient confidentiality at the time so I said nothing about the GBL. I have been taking it every night for about 2 weeks now so I'm hoping I'm not addicted. I have a bit of GHB handy just in case, as I hear GHB withdrawals can be fatal.

 

[Renz Envy]

You are not addicted to GHB or GBL unless you 24 hour dose.

Unless you're having bad shakes/anxiety in between doses every 2 hours, I would say it's psychological.

 

[CrimpJiggler]

Sounds like the dopamine rebound caused quite a bit of anxiety. You're fine, OP. Be better about dosing GHB from now on.

Any time you plan to take monstrous doses, always have enough to taper off the rebound so that it is not uncomfortably stimulating. The rebound should be "pleasurable" and never uncomfortable or paranoid.

This is the first time I hear of dopamine rebounds with GHB. Can you elaborate on that a bit. I should point out that I was not on meth when this happened. I never redose the next day because I only take it to sleep. Are you saying this weird anxiety feeling is a normal phenomenon? In other words, did people only think it was weird because they assumed I was redosing the next morning? Lots of the time, I felt good after waking up on GHB. It seems to be only those overdose experiences that leave me feeling bad. That bad feeling fades away and is replaced by euphoria at the end of the day. In retrospect, I now know that milder versions of this have happened to me. I recall a humorous memory of me being unable to get out of the bathroom because I couldn't find the door for some reason. I assumed the light was off but maybe it wasn't. Maybe I was just so out of my head that I couldn't remember where the door was. Maybe that wasn't a milder version of this experience lol. Reading this thread has put my worry to rest. I actually feel abnormally euphoric right now which seems to follow the bad feelings I get at the start of the day. So if what lightforce described is the same thing that happened to me, I should be back to normal by tomorrow. Thats it for GHB for me. I don't get recreational effects from it and I see I've been coming mighty closed to falling asleep permanently on it so I'll take it as a sign that I'm not responsible enough for this substance. I'm quitting drugs altogether and gonna go sober for a while. My main problem when I'm sober is drowsiness but I'm optimistic that this supplement I found (rhodiola rosea) will help fix that. If you have had a negative experience with this supplement, please don't tell me about it as I want to at least have the placebo effect with me on this one. If you have positive experiences, do share them though.

You are not addicted to GHB or GBL unless you 24 hour dose.

Unless you're having bad shakes/anxiety in between doses every 2 hours, I would say it's psychological.

Thanks! That makes me far more optimistic about quitting tonight. I really hope you're right about this being psychological because this will be by far the most solid evidence of the power of the placebo effect I have so far. When I started taking GBL/GHB, I didn't know there was supposed to be no aftereffects, I had the idea in my head that I would feel different for the whole day after waking up from GHB sleep for some reason. I now know that GHB isn't supposed to have aftereffects but I'm still feeling like this every day after waking up from GHB sleep. I even got a few hours of normal sleep on one of the nights and woke up feeling the same way.

 

[CrimpJiggler]

One night I was high on meth and was doing GHB and accidentally took too much, i think it was like 3 or 4 caps within an hour. Anyways i started to G out but never fully past out. It was a weird buzzing feeling in my head and i too thought i had fucked up my brain. Had no clue what was going on or whee I was. After about a day the feeling went away but it definitely scared the shit out of me.

Wait a minute. Were you on meth the next day when you got the buzzing feeling? If so, that would explain what happened to me last week. Its all starting to make sense now. Well it isn't, but at least we've figured out the cause of the effect. I had that crazy unable to get out of the bathroom experience the night before my exam. I had more exams to study for so I took dexedrine after the exam. I overdid it and took around 70mg in the space of a few hours. About 6 hours after taking the dexedrine, I started feeling WEIRD. I could feel tingling all over my face and head. I was convinced I was about to have a stroke. That night, I drank myself to sleep with GBL and when I woke up the next morning, I felt strange for the rest of the day. I really think it was the placebo effect because now that I'm accepting it may have been all in my head, the negative state is being replaced with a euphoric one. Whats amazing is I can study in this euphoric state. Did I just stumble upon proof that I don't need drugs to study? Either that or what I'm experiencing is this GHB rebound that renz envy was talking about.

 

[CrimpJiggler]

I just looked up the GHB dopamine rebound. That explains everything. I wish I'd asked about this on this forum last week. Would have saved me a lot of trouble.

 

[Dave]

Have you seen Other Drugs? They cover all kinds of stuff like that there.

Glad to hear that you were able to resolve your problem!

 

[Renz Envy]

Dopamine rebound can be a good thing after a single dose of about 1-2g. It is similar to about 20mg of amphetamine for me. During dopamine rebound I find the inspiration to clean and study.

However in higher doses dopamine rebound is the opposite of enjoyable.

For me, I have never had a GHB withdrawal last longer than about 5 hours after the last dose. I have once 24-hour dosed for 2 weeks straight.

I do not use for more than about 6-8 hours a week. I do not have a bad experience unless I take over a 2 gram dose under the influence of a stimulant.

 

[DexterMeth]

I just looked up the GHB dopamine rebound. That explains everything. I wish I'd asked about this on this forum last week. Would have saved me a lot of trouble.

I was just going to meantion this aspect of GHB. It's far worse with GBL btw.

 

[Dave]

Since this has become a discussion more of the effects of GHB than anything else, I'm going to move this to OD. Mods: my apologies if it should have gone elsewhere, please move it as needs be

 

[Limitbreaker]

Sounds like the dopamine rebound caused quite a bit of anxiety. You're fine, OP. Be better about dosing GHB from now on.

I've had this lately, by redosing GBL too quickly I've overdosed and this resulted in: first, falling asleep for 5 min or so, then I don't remember anything. But it was schizofrenia-like psychosis, didn't know what's happening, I barely remember any of it, I was running around like if I were chased by demons and got myself into some trouble due to that. Don't overdose GBL! The dopamine rebound we're talking about here is a serious danger.

 

[Renz Envy]

Anxiety alone never killed anyone. I have yet to read of a fatal withdrawal from GHB. At some point anxiety stops being anxiety and it becomes debilitating pain.

I've never understood why people don't do the simple conversion. You get a solution with much, much fewer side-effects and more positive effects.