GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

[Fry-d-]

GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

Hey Peeps,

Being that we now have a discussion/social thread for IV drug users, i figured we should have one for G use.

I know alot of us here use juice, and half of the time when we post in the FAQ thread, our posts are deleted for whatever reason. So i've created this thread in hopes we can have a rant about juice, its analogues and relative things here.

Any current trends in use or the particular analogues being used would be interesting discussion - as well as dosages, horror stories and harm min tips.

Please refrain from ANY anti-g crap in here, this is not a thread to post how much you hate g blah blah blah. It's for users of the chemical and those wanting information. any anti-g bullshit will not be tollerated. Thanks.

 

[zaineaol.nu]

Hey Peeps,

Being that we now have a discussion/social thread for IV drug users, i figured we should have one for G use.

I know alot of us here use juice, and half of the time when we post in the FAQ thread, our posts are deleted for whatever reason. So i've created this thread in hopes we can have a rant about juice, its analogues and relative things here.

Any current trends in use or the particular analogues being used would be interesting discussion - as well as dosages, horror stories and harm min tips.

Please refrain from ANY anti-g crap in here, this is not a thread to post how much you hate g blah blah blah. It's for users of the chemical and those wanting information. any anti-g bullshit will not be tollerated. Thanks.

 

[Splatt]

Great idea! I love my juice.. when I can actually find it.
The popularity of juice was high in Queensland, brisbane and gold coast years and years ago, but it has really died down. Melbourne seems to be the G-Head capital.

It is funny how things have changed. Most juice is 1,4b now, or if you're lucky GBL, and 2-3ml is a dose**, it probably won't be pure unless you've got a good source, but 2-3ml for a dose is very different to back in the old days where people took around 10mls or 20mls, and took swigs and caps etc..

So who here used to take G regulary, and then stopped? And did you stop out of boredom of the drug, because you were addicted, because you overdosed (once or many times?), because you ended up in hospital, because of mates ODing in a b ad way? etc.. ? Just interested to know.

** Always start at ~1.5-2 for a new batch, just because you needed 4ml to get nicely high on the last batch from the same dealer, doesn't mean it will be the same! It could even be real GHB (unlikely, but still) and I'm sure you could dilute over a gram, maybe even two in one ml of water.)

 

[basix]

I use to take G (i think it was 1.4b) every weekend when I went out to clubs and raves in melbourne weekly, but havne't done it for about 2 years now since I stopped going out. From what I hear its a bit harder to find and lower quality.

G is the best club/rave drug ever and I cant stand any those anti g fuckers who waste their time campaining the rave scene that G is evil. I had the best times of my life doing G and Im sure Ill try it again some time.

 

[zaineaol.nu]

I'm not so much a fan of doing g out in clubs, mainly because alot of my friends are massive promoters - who know i take it, and they are massive anti-g.

Out of respect i dont do the stuff in those clubs. I wait til afterward when i get home - G has the ability to make any come down null and void, scratch that - fun and exciting.

[EDIT: I can't allow that link, check your PM. hoptis]

 

[ilikeacid]

the G i've gotten from Qeensland was the only pure GBL I've ever had, got it from a very reliable source and 2ml would get me high as a kite.

the stuff I've found locally has been pretty average, very gluggy, I could swig it without burning out the back of my throat. Here in melb it seems pretty hard to get a hold of and is generally overpriced.

I agree with zaineaol, the stuff is the best for comedowns, its gotten such a shit rep from clubs and people who have no idea about how to dose safely. I wish I could get a hold of some now

 

[basix]

I agree with it being better at an afterparty or at someones house when you're coming down, you have to be extremely careful with doses if you are going to take it while out, and have a good group of people that can look out after you.

Also, I only took G when I took meth, I wouldnt have one without the other, it was my fave drug combo especially while clubbing.

 

[who_can_say]

I've had some really poor stuff in my time, but the last time I had it it was ace as. Felt little waves of euphoria coming over me, was great. We started with 2mls and then went up to 3mls later. My idiot friend took an extra ml on the sly the third time round and went to 'sleep'. Luckily I was clued in. When we woke up he was like "fuck that was stupid of me...went against my own harm reduction policy".

I like taking it with crystal, gives a nice combo. I only take it at home....great for the sexing

 

[MR Candyslut]

G is the best club/rave drug ever and I cant stand any those anti g fuckers who waste their time campaining the rave scene that G is evil. I had the best times of my life doing G and Im sure Ill try it again some time.

Dude, just because you have had a good time with it, and have not fucked up on it, does not negate the fact that unless you are very well educated about this drug, it can be extremely dangerous (more so than others). 8)

I think a mass-education campaign about Fanta is essential, and certainly one that should be encouraged by all bluelighters as being in the interests of harm minimisation. The only people that I have ever heard campaigning 'against' G is people from ravesafe, and I highly doubt they would be campaigning against, more offering advice about what to do with it.

And I mean, the reality is, it is a very dangerous drug for people who are just used to popping a few pills at raves on weekend and then end up g'ing out on the pavement somewhere

 

[Splatt]

I agree. Meth and G is a beautiful combo, amazing body buzz, and you can sleep after meth when you're tried of being awake.

 

[who_can_say]

Re: harm reduction with G....the people who work in clubs that I have spoken to directly about this have said that it's really the newbies who know nothing about G that are the cause of most of the problems they see. They are now worried that there is a new gen of users who know *nothing* about G, or who think they know stuff when in reality it's all just heresay/myth stuff, coming up through the scene. And there seems to be a crowd coming through that think "wow I'm at a dance party, and thus, I MUST do drugs" and so they take whatever is offered to them and later fall over. I think people forget that just because a message has been put out there once doesn't mean that every group will get it.

I definately think that there needs to be new campaigns out there about G. I think my state government is about to release a new campaign for 'party drugs', so hopefully it'll be something decent that doesn't contain the usual "drugs are bad" message that gets toted out.

Sorry....I'll stand off my soapbox now

 

[person]

Well since I feel like im the only kiwi on this site that does juice in nz, then id have to add my 10c worth - 5c now being abolished. I do find the melbourne gbl from when ive sourced it whilst on travels to be of very good standard (eg my mate opened a new bottle/labelled 99.9% pure) and basically the same consistency here/nz, except with the availability of 1,4b more than GBL, and GHB popping up now and then when someone is willing enough to convert to GHB, hence the prices of a litre.
But yeah 2.5ml is considered a decent dosage here, with 1,4b at least 3 - 4mls. So were the days (almost 98 - 99) when 1 - 1.5ml would knock your cotton socks. Trends have changed no-one wants to add food colouring, as its now preferred to be sold 'untouched', a few street names here are 'mellow yellow' for 1,4b, and 'petrol' for GBL, with 'rinse' for all the above.
I love GHB!@! but only like to hang with mates who do it too+hate having to walk through an orgy to buy it. I do like taking it after meth/ice, but I ALWAYS find im waking up exactly after 3 hours. So benzos does it for comedowns, my mates brother went into a coma for 8 days in hospital taking G+valium, so ill definately not mix it with other downers.
I tend to g out for perhaps a weekend with weed, but then stop otherwise I go on this 'around the clock' bender for a week+ which is like drinking myself sober+acid guts feeling. But yeah I think knowing ones dosage on every new batch is essential for the euphoria, too much and you may as well bring a sleeping bag.
The club scene here tends to be these days more rc+pills+ice nights. G more like for the house parties/home people. I like G with methylone or mdma (just a smaller amount like 1ml, nothing more than that, makes the m1/mdma journey to peaceful heights for me) blah blah, rant rant..

 

[Woody Wood Pecker]

Well since I feel like im the only kiwi on this site that does juice in nz, then id have to add my 10c worth - 5c now being abolished. I do find the melbourne gbl from when ive sourced it whilst on travels to be of very good standard (eg my mate opened a new bottle/labelled 99.9% pure) and basically the same consistency here/nz, except with the availability of 1,4b more than GBL, and GHB popping up now and then when someone is willing enough to convert to GHB, hence the prices of a litre.
But yeah 2.5ml is considered a decent dosage here, with 1,4b at least 3 - 4mls. So were the days (almost 98 - 99) when 1 - 1.5ml would knock your cotton socks. Trends have changed no-one wants to add food colouring, as its now preferred to be sold 'untouched', a few street names here are 'mellow yellow' for 1,4b, and 'petrol' for GBL, with 'rinse' for all the above.
I love GHB!@! but only like to hang with mates who do it too+hate having to walk through an orgy to buy it. I do like taking it after meth/ice, but I ALWAYS find im waking up exactly after 3 hours. So benzos does it for comedowns, my mates brother went into a coma for 8 days in hospital taking G+valium, so ill definately not mix it with other downers.
I tend to g out for perhaps a weekend with weed, but then stop otherwise I go on this 'around the clock' bender for a week+ which is like drinking myself sober+acid guts feeling. But yeah I think knowing ones dosage on every new batch is essential for the euphoria, too much and you may as well bring a sleeping bag.
The club scene here tends to be these days more rc+pills+ice nights. G more like for the house parties/home people. I like G with methylone or mdma (just a smaller amount like 1ml, nothing more than that, makes the m1/mdma journey to peaceful heights for me) blah blah, rant rant..

agree with you %100

 

[beech]

Haven't had G for probably 3 months. Used to use it quite a lot in clubs and stuff but that was not til i had used it quite a lot in more controlled environments like recoveries and stuff.
I agree with previous comments that it is a very dangerous drug and those using it probably do need to be a little more educated on it. Well at least the younger, newer breed of people on the scene need it. Those who I've seen blow out do seem to be younger or inexperienced users.

The prejudice against G kinda shits me a fair bit. The fact that people will look down their nose for someone 'fucking up their scene' by using G yet they will eat 7 pills and sit munted in the corner most of the night.

 

[Splatt]

Yeah the people that use the fucking the scene line can fuck off and get a clue.
Drugs are drugs. Be it pills, alcohol, speed or G. At least the real G users (not the inexperienced newbies) know what the hell they arew taking, where as most pill users don't even give a shit nor test their pills.

 

[person]

Ive also found the pill only users can get bitchy at g and needle users, probably the cross stigma of a junkie holding a fit, to a g user walking around with a 3ml barrel?
Also forgot to mention the 99.9% pure gbl was hospital med grade in those thick brown bottles with one of those kid lock type caps (didnt know what to google, but am positive it was by the same company that press temazepams etc). Incidentally most benzos, opiates/prescription medicine etc are made in melbourne anyways lol.

edit: mybad, it was actually 99.9% GHB lol - xyrem, redistributed/licensed through another company I guess? but that was definately the bottle I saw, but had a bit of red and blue on the label.

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edit v1.0a Yeah ive witnessed someone blowing out from rinsing their bottle a while back, so next time I tried myself how much GBL I could get from the dreggs of a small bottle by turning it upside down and burning the outside, was amazed how much recycling I could get from it, if not slighly concentrated. Im too chicken shit to synth juice to ghb if I had a chance, probably from the thought of crapping something up+the $ it can cost just for the precursors. A friend succeeded and I was amazed from the result, was sort of fluffly light meth looking appearance. Once diluted tasted more like the smell of chlorine, but nonetheless good times.

Havent necessarily taken myself to hospital, but back in 98 when 1,4b was easily available at local retail stores, im sure I came close to blowing out more than a few times due to plainly being stupid, bit like taking caps full of 1,4b to knowing my limit, then trying GBL for the first time, making a drastic change to shallow breathing. Its just crazy when you get people aka body builders who would go through a litre a week 8(

I prefer GBL over 1,4b if I had an option at the time, probably cos I get really crook guts, than if I dose on GBL or the odd GHB.

 

[hoptis]

Let's keep the off-topic/social chatter to a minimum, this is not meant to be social forum, cheers.

 

[phase_dancer]

Let's keep the off-topic/social chatter to a minimum, this is not meant to be social forum, cheers.

Agreed. Once upon a time on this forum such a thread would have been closed or moved the moment it appeared.

Unless you have an appropriate comment, or something constructive to add that hasn't been posted in previous G related threads, then I'd suggest not posting at all. Personally, I think the word "social" should be removed altogether.

 

[Fry-d-]

The threads been renamed.

If if the flames or social banter continue the thread will be closed. Constructive discussion only.

 

[lil angel15]

Let's keep the off-topic/social chatter to a minimum, this is not meant to be social forum, cheers.

As Hoptis has said, keep the social banter for the social forums. This forum is for the discussion of and relating to Harm Minimisation when using substances.

If off topic remarks continue to be posted, the thread will need to be closed as it will be offering nothing constructive to this forum.