about 4 years ago i stopped taking strattera, i have adhd but i found that when i took it, it made me very tired and unmotivated. I did fine in school with out it, but now that i am going into university i have a lot more work and would like to get some again. It seems that it is common for doctors to perscibe ritalin before adderall probably because adderall is an amphetamine and over a stronger drug. I have tried all the different types of add medicines and have found that adderal was the best one for me. So if i go in an ask for an adderall script specifically is the doctor just going to think that i want to get high, or would that be alright to do. I would really like to have some add meds to help me out, im honestly not even looking to get high off of them, but i dont want to just end up with ritalin, i only want adderall or vyvanse or another amphetamine base. So do you think hes just going to turn me down if i just straight ask for adderrall or should taht be ok?
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Stimulants getting prescribed adderall after strattera
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StaySedated
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tell him what you feel, say u dont want an antidepressant, if he gives u ritalin, say it still isn't helping. if all fails find another doc, i had to.
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Yeah I mean what do the doctors think that we are not going to take any interest in the mental disorders we have? That you're not going to look it up and have prefereances? Man you are giving yourself a guilt trip over nothing. I go right in to my doctors and #1, they work for me, not the other way around, after all I am paying for their benz and the apartment for them to go fuck hookers in. So if a doctor disrespects my intellect by admonishing me for having a medical medication preference (just like the doctor has for brunette hookers) I say fuck you and go find a real doctor that understands these simple things in life.
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Adderall made me very very tired the first couple of weeks. IME the very first time you take an amphetamine you feel like a zombie (if you have ADHD) if you dont have ADHD it makes you hyper instead of tired
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^I dunno about that first-time feeling relationship. I assure you I am diagnosed with ADD-PI and it ran my life off a cliff because it went undiagnosed for so many years. I have been treated for dozens of mental problems stemming from the result of this disorder running rampant in my mind unchecked for 35 years.
Anyway my first time I felt energized/hyper/alive and had direction and purpose. Most importantly the concrete that was poured over me and kept me frozen in a never-ending trance started to come down that day.
So I don't know if that is entirely true about what you feel like on you or first time and how it might be a diagnostic tool to detect the true ADD sufferer.
Anyway my first time I felt energized/hyper/alive and had direction and purpose. Most importantly the concrete that was poured over me and kept me frozen in a never-ending trance started to come down that day.
So I don't know if that is entirely true about what you feel like on you or first time and how it might be a diagnostic tool to detect the true ADD sufferer.
i've just been prescribed concerta for my ADHD (same as ritalin, slow release) and have been taking it for 2 weeks. in the UK adderall is very uncommon and expensive which is a shame as ive always wanted to try it.
Let us know how it goes and good luck!
Let us know how it goes and good luck!
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... :Getting tired from stimulants is amazingly common among ADD people. It's practically a diagnostic test:
http://index.healthboards.com/add/751508/adderall-tired/ as read from that link
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After Strattera
After many years in a $100,000/yr. job, I had to leave because of severe attention problems. The State took my license to practice until I got a psychiatric eval for ADD/ADHD. I actually knew I'd had it since childhood, but selfmedicated for many years and did real well. Dr. diagnosed severe ADD and prescribed Strattera. I knew it was the fave "non-narcotic". I didn't like it, it caused impotence. I went back thinking he'd Rx Adderall. He tried to get me to stick with the Strattera but I told him after just a month, I couldn't function with my girlfriend and wanted to try something stronger anyway to "get my concentration where it needs to be" and that stuff wasn't working. Hoping for Adderral, he said that the "side effects would wear off,keep using it." (I wasn't ready for that response, now I'd have that damned Strat again). I stood my ground and said that I had worked hard to see if that stuff improved my concentration, regardless of the side effects I couldn't live with. I argued it hadn't worked and I'd prefer something stronger without the side effects. He relented but prescribed Ritalin, warning me of the amphetimine effect. After a month, I'll go back for the Adderall.
So, I think you're right that many want Ritalin as an interim step. But, I think you're in better shape to argue your case. I got upgraded from Strat to Ritalin after only 2 weeks.
You've had a much longer, documented experience with the Strat, so you may be able to argue that "look, I've tried this stuff for a long time, an absolute failure on improving my concentration and has side effects that's impairing my quality of life. Tell him what they are, and make sure the med you're asking for doesn't have the same side effects you're complaining about--generally some are the same for all 3 but complain only about the ones that you know Strattera and Ritalin have that Adderall doesn't. (if you can) They're all listed on the internet, so do your research and make sure you're a match for Adderall. I thought Ritalin was for kids so I only researched Strat vs. Adderall. If I'd have known, I'd have been prepared to lay out the case that Adderall is the only option. Key is to make it think based on your comments that the Dr. decides on his own to Rx it. But, always do like I do, once you've laid out the case, just simply say that you've had a few years experience with the other drug and that you'd like to try Adderall for 30 days.
That way, you've laid it out for the Dr. with reasons why he can Rx the Adderall. You didn't just go stampeding to the result you want. He won't think you're shopping for Adderall, otherwise you'd have asked in the beginning and not explained why the old drug doesn't work. You've given him reasons he can use in your file for Rx'ing it, at least to see how you do for 30 days. After 30 days, tell hime its working great and get it renewed (assuming you don't scarf them down in 10 days--but that's up to you.)
If you're final plea doesn't work and he hits you with Ritalin, tell him you'll like to report back in 30 days about how the Ritalin works. (I'd go back in 2 weeks and say its crap and tell him that the Ritalin didn't do a damn thing except improve your frisbee game ( I actually, use pot and acid for that, but that's just me).
But your class room concentration still sucks. He may make you wait 2 more weeks or not, either way you should so be trade up to Adderall.
So, give it the best shot as described or you see fit, hope this helps. Even if you have to settle for the Ritalin, just make sure you cooperate politely by telling him him you'll give it 30 days. Persuasion works better than demand (unless you're armed).
After many years in a $100,000/yr. job, I had to leave because of severe attention problems. The State took my license to practice until I got a psychiatric eval for ADD/ADHD. I actually knew I'd had it since childhood, but selfmedicated for many years and did real well. Dr. diagnosed severe ADD and prescribed Strattera. I knew it was the fave "non-narcotic". I didn't like it, it caused impotence. I went back thinking he'd Rx Adderall. He tried to get me to stick with the Strattera but I told him after just a month, I couldn't function with my girlfriend and wanted to try something stronger anyway to "get my concentration where it needs to be" and that stuff wasn't working. Hoping for Adderral, he said that the "side effects would wear off,keep using it." (I wasn't ready for that response, now I'd have that damned Strat again). I stood my ground and said that I had worked hard to see if that stuff improved my concentration, regardless of the side effects I couldn't live with. I argued it hadn't worked and I'd prefer something stronger without the side effects. He relented but prescribed Ritalin, warning me of the amphetimine effect. After a month, I'll go back for the Adderall.
So, I think you're right that many want Ritalin as an interim step. But, I think you're in better shape to argue your case. I got upgraded from Strat to Ritalin after only 2 weeks.
You've had a much longer, documented experience with the Strat, so you may be able to argue that "look, I've tried this stuff for a long time, an absolute failure on improving my concentration and has side effects that's impairing my quality of life. Tell him what they are, and make sure the med you're asking for doesn't have the same side effects you're complaining about--generally some are the same for all 3 but complain only about the ones that you know Strattera and Ritalin have that Adderall doesn't. (if you can) They're all listed on the internet, so do your research and make sure you're a match for Adderall. I thought Ritalin was for kids so I only researched Strat vs. Adderall. If I'd have known, I'd have been prepared to lay out the case that Adderall is the only option. Key is to make it think based on your comments that the Dr. decides on his own to Rx it. But, always do like I do, once you've laid out the case, just simply say that you've had a few years experience with the other drug and that you'd like to try Adderall for 30 days.
That way, you've laid it out for the Dr. with reasons why he can Rx the Adderall. You didn't just go stampeding to the result you want. He won't think you're shopping for Adderall, otherwise you'd have asked in the beginning and not explained why the old drug doesn't work. You've given him reasons he can use in your file for Rx'ing it, at least to see how you do for 30 days. After 30 days, tell hime its working great and get it renewed (assuming you don't scarf them down in 10 days--but that's up to you.)
If you're final plea doesn't work and he hits you with Ritalin, tell him you'll like to report back in 30 days about how the Ritalin works. (I'd go back in 2 weeks and say its crap and tell him that the Ritalin didn't do a damn thing except improve your frisbee game ( I actually, use pot and acid for that, but that's just me).
But your class room concentration still sucks. He may make you wait 2 more weeks or not, either way you should so be trade up to Adderall.
So, give it the best shot as described or you see fit, hope this helps. Even if you have to settle for the Ritalin, just make sure you cooperate politely by telling him him you'll give it 30 days. Persuasion works better than demand (unless you're armed).
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As long as the doctor knows you have been diagnosed with ADHD and have been treated for it before with amphetamine based medications...its much more likely that he/she will prescribe you what you want.
Allthough, it is still up to the doc to decide what to do...but I would imagine it wouldnt be too hard to find a doctor who will give you adderall since you have allready been diagnosed with ADHD.
Hell....if i tried hard enough I could get adderall prescribed.
Allthough, it is still up to the doc to decide what to do...but I would imagine it wouldnt be too hard to find a doctor who will give you adderall since you have allready been diagnosed with ADHD.
Hell....if i tried hard enough I could get adderall prescribed.
If your records show only strattera, going in and asking for a call brand is likely not going to be in your best interest. State problems/reasons associated with your desire to change meds, but let the man try to do his job. Most docs have big heads anyway, and don't warm up to patients trying to tell them how to do there job. If you walk out with a med you know you don't want, walk out anyway. Walk back in next month and claim compliance, and be justified in your desire to amend your meds again, because of specific issues you can now claim you've endured over the last month. You'll look more sincere, he has a patient history to document his actions, and most important, he still feels in control. Theres not but so many meds he can try you on. Within a few months you'll have what you want. That is unless you walked in and demanded desoxyn from the first visit.
haha i forgot i made this thread...well i went to the docotor, just said well i used to take strattrera 4 years ago but i didnt like it and so after doing some reaserch on some other drugs, i thought adderall would be a good one. and he goes yea my niece uses that blah blah about the drug, and then he says alright im going to perscbribe you 30mg a day of adderall xr. dope that was easy...wait one more idea, i then say to him, i talked to my friend who used to take xr and he said he switched because he didnt like how long it woudl last if he accidentally took it a bit later in the day. The docotr goes, oh alright, well ill just write you up for 2 15mg irs a day....hahah wwwwiiiiiinnnnnn.
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I get tired from stims..after taking them daily I definitely feel like a zombie..so yeah, if that happens, chances are you're adhd.
haha wow yea ive been on the for 5 days and i already hear you completely. I actually think im going switch to focalin a soon as i can now. I had a pretty bad mdma addiction last year, when i was blowing 3 grams or so a week for a while. I had only started doing it a year before that so i still didnt really have the respect to know how to handle mdma or amphetamies responsibly. The reason i finally stopped was that towards the end of it all i was starting the feel what seemed like the onset of amphetamine psychosis. im all done with it now, and i honestly havent noticed really too many lasting effects from it, other than the 2 months after stopping where i was just horribly spaced out all the time. But now that i have started taking adderall again, altho my tolerance has dropped significantly and i do feel pretty focused like i should, im also in some ways very spaced out at the same time. I am looking at the computer screen as i type this, and the words i have written look as if they are flowing in a liquid like energy feild, and i as i look around the room i still see hallucinations. I dont think i took enoguht to actually halucinate nomally, and these are plesant halllucinations like normal ones, this feels more like the psycosis. fuck aha idk wher im going with thread...guess its about taht time agian to find a new drug...i dont like mthylphenidate at all but i do need to still be taking something for add as i do really need it for university now. It is an amph still but im almost tempted to try dexidrine instead because ive heard it is a bit more relaxed than addy, but with the the dexis i probly wont be taking any more than the actual dosage, or i would consider focalin. If i got taht tho, even though i dont like it as much as a drug id still probly use more than adderall since its so much nicer to snort and i just have a love for snorting. fuck haha this is getting bad, i just need to be perscribed medical LSD for add...haha i am being serious though, a dose of 25-75 micro gams of lsd(very small amount, less than 1 hit) is a great way to focus your mind and in some ways unlock parts of it that you normally would not be able put use. everyone on heres probbably heard of it if you do lsd, but the scientist who discovered the double helix shape of dna was taking lsd at the time. I doubt it will ever be legal or because of the ridiculous amounts of government propoganda made up about lsd after the 60s, i doubt there is any drug out there even including weed that they have made more flat out lies about...Once i am able to maintain a steady connection for acid again im going to stop doign all other drugs compltetely, and use it as more of a medicinal drug as strange as that may seem to some people. i probably wont even smoke weed at that point...but fuck guess its just shitty focalin lines for a while now.
hah alright fuck im gotta stop writing, still kind of high from addy/got taht psycosis like state hanging over me slightly, just makes me want to keep rambling on whatever the fuck comes to mind but ill stop now haha.