Misc GBL withdrawal - need HELP

[delphinen]

Hello,

I have been a GABAergics drugs addict for 5 years or more -this addiction began with delicious Diazepam ampoules to Flunitrazepam and Lyrica binges. I have also taken a considerable amount of opiates and opioids in the last years, *lots* of DXM, some psychedelics (LSD, K, 2C-X, etc), and some uppers too (being Modafinil the most "suitable" for me). I have also taken recreational Diphenhydramine, Memantine, and Lexapro doses.
I have done an incredible amount an variety of drugs in the last 5 years that I can't believe I'm still alive, I have a normal family, a nice job, slowly paying my own place.. and ... good health overall 8)

But exactly 45 days ago I was introduced to this weird drug called "GBL"; I didn't care about it, the reason I got it was because I was able to met a nice friend and score some psychedelics

The first time I got a 200ml bottle of it. It smelled horrible, it tasted like petrol, and every Google search was about GHB and not GBL. I was supposed to convert the stuff before drinking it. But it was already too late.

I had already drink my first 1,5ml of the stuff. 10' minutes after that I was feeling incredible. Really. I blogged about it. I redosed. And redosed. And felt an ecstasy not even comparable to the most fine opioids I ever did.
I never felt so good, never felt so happy, it was the drug the gods created to kill humans like me. And I was grateful for that. I knew right away I was getting into something very dangerous. But what the hell, after all the drugs I did in my life, was I gonna care about getting addicted to another one?

A month passed by. I got another 200ml bottle for free. While I was dancing, fapping, laughing, and chatting in my room, I began to research little by little about how GBL worked in the body. It was a GABA B receptor. There weren't too many GABA-B agonists. A powerful Dopamine stimulant. That was strange, I thought I didn't like Cocaine. A Kappa opioid receptor agonist. ..Wait, what?

Soon, I was afraid reading anything about GHB/GBL withdrawals. But I couldn't stop taking it. I didn't care at the time too. My life was already fucked up, right?

My daily regular dose always was 2~2,5ml at morning before going to work and 4,5~8ml at night before doing shit in my place.

I tought it wasn't so much. Still think so. But, having only 5ml left of GBL I feel ... afraid. I'm a very suicidal-behavior person and, although people say otherwise, I feel death as an easy way to escape of my problems.
Ok, maybe I'm going too far, but I don't know how I'll operate without GBL after 1.5 months of doing it, and suddenly, stopping. Sure, I can get some benzos, some opiods, hell, even try a life changing trip with some 2C-E... but will that work? I don't want to return to the damn Seroquel in order to get some sleep and lose my job after that.

So, please BLighters, will you help me? sorry if I said too much in this post. I am actually high.
Again:
My daily regular dose always was 2~2,5ml at morning before going to work and 4,5~8ml at night before doing shit in my place. This, for 45 days almost non stop

Thanks in advance.

 

[Znegative]

Phenibut and baclofen are GABA B agonists, so you might be interested in looking into these to help you get off. I'm pretty sure that phenibut is not scheduled, and you can buy it pretty easily online? I have never dealt with withdrawal from GBL, though I heard it can be pretty nasty. You might want to grab another bottle of it and try and taper yourself down a bit, as well, if that's a possibility.

 

[delphinen]

Thanks for the input guys. Tonight is my last night doing GBL. I'll miss it a lot, but if the withdrawals don't ruin my life, I'll purchase a liter in some weeks. Thankfully, I can afford it.

Well -today I ate 2 Bayer Supradyn multivitamin pills, 10mg Memantine, and bought a box of Phenylalanine capsules (already ate one too, each pills contains 255mg of Phenylalanine). I couldn't search too much today, but it seems there is no Phenibut in my country; there is Baclofen, but it is highly scheduled, I'll have to think of a way to get it.

I also have a box of 2mg Klonopin and 60mg Codeine for the next week.
Am I missing something? would a beer with benzos and opiates help at night?

 

[Znegative]

Alcohol is not usually good, at least for benzo withdrawals it isn't, not so sure about GBL, but I wouldnt risk it. Clonazepam I think has some activity at GABA B which would be great for your situation, but don't quote me on that. I also found this overview of GHB (will apply to GBL) withdrawal which might be helpfull http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_addiction2.pdf

Also gabapentin would be good to have on hand, the article has some other helpfull info too

 

[delphinen]

I have been tapering off with Gabapentin, Clonazepam and Codeine for 4 days so far.
I don't have pain nor tremors, and sleeping it's difficult but I can easily achieve it with Clonidine. (that a lot of pills I know!)

I have read somewhere that taking Phenylalanine would make me more anxious and unable to sleep because of more Dopamine in the brain... I am confused, didn't I need more Dopamine because of the lack of GBL?

The point is, since 2 days ago I have been feeling incredible down. I don't feel like going out, I don't feel like doing my job, I feel like doing nothing.. I'm also having some mild suicide thoughts.

What can I do? is there any advice left? I tried buying more GBL through Western Union but my country doesn't work with some countries of Europe.... if someone ever bought G online in Latin America please PM.

I'm very afraid of losing my job because I just feel like doing NOTHING, while having money I'm thinking about doing the worse....

On an unrealted note, it's so hot here (30ºC) that I think I'll take another nap.. there's nothing I can do

 

[Znegative]

Delphinen,
I'm glad the clonazepam, and gabapentin are working for you. I'd be a little carefully with the codiene, as that is a totally different class of drug, that is also physically addicting. GBL does not cause the release of dopamine in ways that drugs like cocaine and methamphetamine do. The dopamine effect is a rebound. GBL works on some GHB receptors, and on GABA B. when you stop taking the GHB\GBL, you're brain produces a lot of dopamine for a reason that I'm not exactly clear on, but if you're not using too much GHB/GBL, this dopamine rebound can feel like a nice mild stimulant buzz, but if you're using a lot of GHB/GBL, it can be very unpleasant and ovrstimulating, seizures are possible etc..

Im sorry that you are so depressed, I hope you make it through alright.

 

[delphinen]

Thanks Znegative.
I will try tomorrow with a big dose of Modafinil how I feels.
And I still don't know if I should take the Phenylalanine of not...

 

[Znegative]

I would go easy on the modafinii, start out at a dosage that you usually take. The reason I say so, is that modafinil is a CNS stimulant that does activate dopamine so you don't want to over do it. That being said modafinil is a good choice stim wise, as it's pretty easy going, not too intense. Make sure you still take you're clonazepam and gabapentin.

 

[delphinen]

I'm beginning to think that the worse has already passed. Today I have 3 hours of sex, which really helped a lot both physically and psychologically; Endorphins, stabilized blood pressure, placebo, you name it. It helped more than I thought.
I'm trying to lower the Lyrica now because it makes me gain a lot of weight in short time, however, I'll keep my Clonazepam intake just as it is for now. I'm also still taking my Phenylalanine (which comes with B6 and B12).


I won't lie, while listening to music I miss a lot the GBL effect... I have tried 2 online vendors, but I didn't have luck with the shipping from here (Wester Union).
While I keep searching for a vendor that works with, UPS (for example), is there any other drug out there that mimics the GBL effects for listening to music in particular? like, a low recreational dose of DXM?

Thanks.