Limpet_Chicken
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Got a question here.
Namely, when using heroin freebase, intended for smoking off foil/in a vaporization pipe, and converting it for injection with citric/ascorbic acid, how do people measure the quantity of acid required? because its starting with base (insoluble in H2O) and adding acid rather than starting with a salt and titrating with ammonia to slightly basic PH, its not practical to prepare an aqueous solution and use either PH paper or my electronic PH testing pen, since the freebase not converted into a soluble, neutral salt would just adhere as a suspended particulate solid to either the paper or to the electrode of the PH monitor without contributing towards the measurement.
Also, one cannot simply go by observation of the H going into solution vs staying undissolved. Because there is always the potential for insoluble cuts which won't go dissolve no matter what the PH of the solution.
I've only been using a few small grains of citric acid, but even then its really difficult to ascertain the amount of acid required, last time I overshot to some extent, and made the solution over-acidic. Registered, and then missed a unit or two, which stung like fury. I had at first assumed it was histamine release from the opioid, and managed to get inside the vein with little effort, and depressed the plunger, shooting the entire 1ml, can't remember how much gear I used, but several hundred mg of pretty good quality heroin base, then a few moments after I'd depressed the plunger and sent the gear rushing through my veins, it was followed by a sensation like searing fire crawling up the limb I'd shot into, starting from the foot and rising, eventually dissipating once the acidic solution had become sufficiently diluted so as not to burn like a cunting mother of shitting screaming fuck.
Anyone think the best way to gauge would be by taste, adding small quantities of additional H, and using the syringe to withdraw a microliter at a time or so, and rather than of course, allowing the needle to touch my tongue, just letting a tiny drop fall onto my tongue at each addition of more heroin, until I can taste only bitter, and no sourness?
Namely, when using heroin freebase, intended for smoking off foil/in a vaporization pipe, and converting it for injection with citric/ascorbic acid, how do people measure the quantity of acid required? because its starting with base (insoluble in H2O) and adding acid rather than starting with a salt and titrating with ammonia to slightly basic PH, its not practical to prepare an aqueous solution and use either PH paper or my electronic PH testing pen, since the freebase not converted into a soluble, neutral salt would just adhere as a suspended particulate solid to either the paper or to the electrode of the PH monitor without contributing towards the measurement.
Also, one cannot simply go by observation of the H going into solution vs staying undissolved. Because there is always the potential for insoluble cuts which won't go dissolve no matter what the PH of the solution.
I've only been using a few small grains of citric acid, but even then its really difficult to ascertain the amount of acid required, last time I overshot to some extent, and made the solution over-acidic. Registered, and then missed a unit or two, which stung like fury. I had at first assumed it was histamine release from the opioid, and managed to get inside the vein with little effort, and depressed the plunger, shooting the entire 1ml, can't remember how much gear I used, but several hundred mg of pretty good quality heroin base, then a few moments after I'd depressed the plunger and sent the gear rushing through my veins, it was followed by a sensation like searing fire crawling up the limb I'd shot into, starting from the foot and rising, eventually dissipating once the acidic solution had become sufficiently diluted so as not to burn like a cunting mother of shitting screaming fuck.
Anyone think the best way to gauge would be by taste, adding small quantities of additional H, and using the syringe to withdraw a microliter at a time or so, and rather than of course, allowing the needle to touch my tongue, just letting a tiny drop fall onto my tongue at each addition of more heroin, until I can taste only bitter, and no sourness?
