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Cocaine first time smoking crack question

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so in a few weeks my friend and i are getting some good heroin and since he likes crack/coke when he does dope, we'll have some. cocaine is the only stimulant i dig besides mdxx's, and it's not a problem, haven't done it since december and never really had a problem with it. (dope is my downfall) and i'm on a two week break.

anyway, since it's going to me my 22nd birthday, and i've always had a fascination with the "hard", i might be smoking some. i'm wondering if i don't like coke that much, the likelihood of me becoming a rockstar is reduced, right? or is it not?

oh, and we won't be shooting, just sniffing and smoking, but still pussyspeedballing so i know the heart gets fucked with that. so if i do both, i should smoke crack a while before doing the dope? though i'm sure doing them together is the higher way.

i've done coke n dope years before and had a blast, tryna do the same.

like i said, i like heroin more than all, so the only problem is becoming addicted to the speedball, like my friend is, or idk. call me a moron if you want, because that'll stop me...

i've done just about all except crack, meth, and ayahausca, and am trying to cross crack off. so yeah, peace.
 
Just make sure that you don't do too much of either of them. The main danger with speedballing is that a person might do some crack/cocaine, and then do some dope but not feel the dope as much since they are so wired, so they might decide to do some more dope, and when the crack/cocaine wears off they realize they did too much dope. Rule of thumb is to do less of either drug that you usually do on their own.
 
Biggest thing with crack, if you never did it, is BREATHE BETWEEEN HITS. I know it's your first thought after your first hit, but breathe anyway.
Doing 3 big crack hits w/o no beathing between the hits is sure fire seizure.
As for dong too much dope, split your normal dose in two. Take half before and half 20 minutes after last hit

@Brose Yeah, that order, tho when it's me there's a few more cracks involved. :)
 
lazylazyjoe said:
Dope, crack, crack, crack, crack, dope.
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sweet, thanks. i don't plan on smoking too much rock though, i'll update though.

and yeah, i tend to build up to big doses slow, so werd up. would suck with a worse tolerance, but i stop when it hits like +4 bags or so.

one more thing, personal preferences, crack or coke or shooting either? i know its all subjective, but yeah.
 
Most people don't "plan" to smoke alot. Why, ive driven an hour round trip in a truck getting 8mpg 5 times in one night cause each time i only "planned" to smoke a gram.
I always prefer to shoot unless its reallllly good.
Seriously, be careful. I know youre just doing this to do it, but it sucks in quick. you might think youll be fine caue youve done a couple lines of soft before, but smoking is way different. Have fun, be safe and happy birthday
and DONT FORGET TO BREATHE!
 
lazylazyjoe said:
Seriously, be careful. I know youre just doing this to do it, but it sucks in quick. you might think youll be fine caue youve done a couple lines of soft before, but smoking is way different. Have fun, be safe and happy birthday
and DONT FORGET TO BREATHE!
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Not to hi-jack but I wanted to ask ya'll something;

I've done soft maybe 10 times over the last 8 years, and I've had the odd night where I've stayed up til dawn on the stuff. I find it easy to pick up for one night than lay back down until whenever it gets kicked out again. Even then, I often turn it down. But this is mainly because it scares me, because of the urge to constantly re-dose.

With smoking, is the urge to re-dose greater or is it just...the rush begin that much better, or both? I've been offered hard but never tried it due to the stigma attached, but I've often wondered how it compares to soft. For the record I've had a taste of the "good stuff" and the "shitty speedy stuff" so I'm familiar with what the real stuff feels like.

That begs another question; Is hard usually more pure than soft? Getting soft seems to be more hit than miss, so I don't even mess with it. But I've seen locals buy it and rock it up themselves for personal use...so I dunno... Not really an expert on this at all.

Any insight is welcomed. Doubt I'll be smoking anytime soon but if I do change my mind I'd like to have a better idea of what I'm getting into.
 
With crack, the urge to redose is MUCH stronger. The high lasts 5-10 minutes compared to 15-20 with snorted coke.

Hard is not more "pure" than soft, if anything less so because it's made from the same cut cocaine that's sold as soft, plus any cuts the dealer adds to it. It's very easy to make fake rocks.

And it's really easy to make your own crack too, I'd never buy crack but I'll get some good coke, acetone wash it, then make some boulders =P
 
I tried crack once by itself. I didn't like it, it made my fingers tingle and made me jittery as all hell but five minutes later, even though it sucked, i wanted some more. Tread carefully, if you like it you might not be able to put it down so easily. Also i also shot raw(just regular coke) on a number of occasions alone and along with heroin. Shooting coke can be awesome as it makes you feel like a god but be wary, its very easy to overdose when booting it. On a number of occasions i shot too much and for a half hour felt as if my heart was going to explode, heard crackling and popping in my ears and could not stop moving. Mizing the two makes you feel like the son of jesus christ himself but for that reason it should be avoided, it'll hook you for sure, those competing rushes and body feelings are too amazing for them to be good for anyone.
 
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Yeah... When you smoke crack you just want to keep re-dosing. Shit that's all we did till all the crack was gone. The only reason we stopped smoking was because we didn't have anymore crack... That was to the penguinheadphones whatever dude, I forget his username. But yeah smoking crack is like eh to me but when I had it I didn't want to stop smoking the shit. Then you gotta chase the high and look for rocks you dropped... Even if they're there or not.
 
I hate when people do that. My wife would crawl around looking for bits, never finding any.Drove me carzy.
Honestly, I think iv'ing coke is even more fiendish than smoking tho It's harder to keep up with cause after your 5th or so shot, you've killed all your sweet spots on your arm and missing w/ coke is a big no-no.
I think crystal/dope speedballs are way better tho that's a whole different story.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
With smoking, is the urge to re-dose greater or is it just...the rush begin that much better, or both? I've been offered hard but never tried it due to the stigma attached, but I've often wondered how it compares to soft. For the record I've had a taste of the "good stuff" and the "shitty speedy stuff" so I'm familiar with what the real stuff feels like
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As others have said the urge to redose is MUCH greater with crack. You get a much harder, faster hit than snorting coke, but the crash is almost immediate, and feels really shitty. Much worse than a coke comedown snorting. Like a massive vice round the head just winding in tighter and tighter. You'll blaze your way through any amount of crack not because subsequent hits are really even getting you that high anymore, but to stave of the crash. That's why so many take heroin with it, to soften out the rough edges and make the crash bearable.

Crack when properly washed should be purer than the powder coke started out with, but street gear generally hasn't been washed properly at all. Dealers tend to do only half a job, leaving a lot of bicarb in the 'finished' product to bulk it out and add weight. You're probably better off finding some half decent coke and washing it yourself.
 
I have always said crack is evil. Some people(and some people i know) just cant stop themselves. Its sad. Ive watched someone crawl around looking for rocks then hear a noise and jump up and peer out the window thinking the cops were there to get him.
 
Whenever I had both crack and heroin, I would smoke some crack first which for some reason always made me feel like I needed a crap.
Save the heroin for after the crack cos it will really help you come down off the crack and stop you feeling jittery & anxious and just bring you back down to a nice chilled out place.
Crack then Smack is the way to do it in my opinion.
 
I always found the crash from soft worse than hard. I always seem to feel drugs most intensely through the nasal route though (meth, heroin, MDMA, whatever)
 
okay, last question: since only the first line of coke and first hit of crack are the real highs, should we do it as coke first, and then cook it up? this is the only way i could see the actual high being prolonged. anyone done that?

and i know, hit until you quit with the rock but thats why ima do the dope soon after. i need to get celebrating my birthday out of my head lol.
 
^ That sounds like a good plan. Thats like why I may sniff half my oxy and eat the other half, getting the best of both worlds in terms of faster onset and peak (from snorting) and longer duration (from eating). The same idea applies to you snorting and smoking.
 
I found that soft and hard don't really satiate the come downs of each other for some reason... YMMV
 
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