Bupe first time posting, could use some help with detox

[twotree]

i have been on and off painkillers for a number of years and every time i have come off it has been verydifferent.. the very first time i tried i was only on a few perc for 3 months straight and a doc put me on four 8 mg subs a day, after about a year n a half i decided to come off them and antidepressant meds at the same time, so truth is i dont know what was worse, but i do know it took at least 3 weeks for me to start to see the the light, and 3 months before i felt 100% like myself..so hear we are 10 years later, after getting so sick on subs the first time i swore id never take them again.every time i would get high off pills id usta wean down and deal with it. after a few days id be ok..so this time for a few reasons, i was on roxys for about 4-5 months, i had a hard time weaning down so i decided to get a few 2mg sub strips from a friend and try to do a quick detox..i waited 14 hours after my last roxy and starting going out of my mind, so i took 4mg of subs and actually got high and felt fine. i made it threw the rest of the day and night n felt pretty good, even went for a walk..i drank so calming tea n slept a full 8 hours.. i took 3mg of subs around 9am and just slept most of the day, then went for a walk and feel pretty good..its been almost 48 hours since my last roxy...so i guess my question is i dont know where to go from here??? i know i dont want to be on subs for a long time cause i know the wd is worse than percs n roxys (for me at least) how long should i stay on the subs and how should i wean off? i am so scared its not even funny cause i know how bad it can get. i have spoke with a few people who have done a detox and all say that no matter what or how much your on they do a 3-5 day tapper of sub?? please any help or advise would be great.. im also looking at going to na meetings and seeing someone who specializes in drug abuse as well..thank you for listening...quick update, im now 78 hours of pills and on day 3 of subs and down from 4mg to 2mg and feel pretty good..id go to a doc but i truly dont trust any of them..any help would be great..thank you

 

[Tommyboy]

I would just wait until you feel sick again, and take the smallest dose you need to keep the sick away, starting with about 0.5mg. I think that people get too caught up in planning out little tapers like this, and they usually end up taking more than needed. You will probably feel fine for the next 48 hours or so, and then on day 3 of no subs you should have a good idea of how the withdrawals will be this time. If it's not so bad then just ride it out, and don't take any sub, but if it's too much and you don't want to be sick then take 0.5mg, and if it happens again then take 0.25mg.

 

[Swain]

Just a warning, taking 4mg bupe was probably 10-20x more opiates in than you were takign in terms of dependency. I take 2-4mg bupe when I am detoxing off a 10-20bag daily IV heroin habit.

You feel good at 2mg because you are taking more opiats than you were when you were on percs... You are increasing your dependency here man. Keep it up and when you stop the bupe withdrawals wil be worse

 

[twotree]

thats great, i thought i was doing a good thing by only taking 2mg, the last few day i have been slightly going threw withdrawals so i thought it was slowly leaving my system. so what do i do i know? its day 4 n i took 2mg and still feel slight withdrawals..thanks for your help and advise