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Heroin First time HR?

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Jimmy25

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I am getting some good quality boy from a trusted source. This will be my first time, and ill be snorting it. I am experienced with cocaine hard, and soft, but my opiate tolerance is quite low 40mg-50mg hydrocodone for a nice high. How much to start off? I want to be able to get wreckless and floored, but be able to stay on the safe side. I will be buying anywhere from 1-3 grams of this stuff.

What are some good tips to practice hr, and how to get the most out of the product (drinking alcohol, empty, or full stomach, and any other factor). I didn't use the search engine, if there is a thread that would assert my questions, please provide the link id really appreciate it.
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Don't drink alcohol at all when mixing it with heroin, it can cause respiratory depression and could result in death. As far as I know, about 50 mg should be okay for an oral dose but I'm not sure if this would be the same for snorting.
 
We're not here to use the search engine for you... that's why it exists, so people can see if their questions have been answered before making an entirely new thread..(and this topic has been covered 1000 times)

Anyway, first of all... if you're getting even decent dope.. 1-3grams is way too much to be buying.. the average dose of even mid-range quality heroin for a novice is a bump about the size of a match head. You don't need all that dope. Nothing but bad can come from that.

Don't drink alcohol on heroin or any opiate, having a full/empty stomach doesn't matter, use caution when re-dosing, and preferably have somebody sober around who can help you in the event something goes wrong.

Also, you should seriously reconsider beginning to mess with heroin at all... the search engine would have been helpful as well to see just how many threads exist about heroin ruining peoples lives.

That being said, It's good to see you seeking out safe practices but.. you really will most likely regret this.

Preaching over.

Good luck.
 
You do NOT need anywhere near even one gram, let alone 3. My god man, that's just craziness!!! Just get enough for one night. Anything else I'd say is already posted above. Good luck and be careful...
 
"Also, you should seriously reconsider beginning to mess with heroin at all... the search engine would have been helpful as well to see just how many threads exist about heroin ruining peoples lives. "

What this person said!

I'm assuming you're getting either brown powder, "china" or tar. If you're getting base dope you need to search for how to prepare that for use - smoking it I believe, but search the forums. Know your drug - is it base or hydrochloride salt?

In the interest of harm reduction let me add my concurring opinion that more than a few points (0.1 - 0.3 g or 100- to 300-mg, same amount/different units) of even half decent dope is way more than enough to experiment with, and I don't mean taking it until it's gone. Sounds like you have very little to no experience with strong opioids, not trying to be a douche, but hydrocodone is nothing like H. Do a very, very small amount. I like the match head amount suggested above - insulfated. You can swallow heroin but it ruins it, so don't. Just snort as little as you can, it will seem like soooo little, but it very well may rock your world, especially if it's good dope - and of course you believe it is, and it may well be. If it doesn't have a powerful effect or make you sick, wait an hour and - if you really don't feel anything - try the same amount again, but not more, it will add to what's already in your system, and there will be some even if you don't feel it the first time. H is often a subtle experience for beginners (like with weed) that takes getting some experience to learn to enjoy, it may not feel like much but the difference b/w "feeling it" and a cold, blue death is a fine line unlike with any other substance I can think of... esp., for beginners. And please understand that we're not trying to be dickish when we say you're inexperienced or a beginner - it's just the truth and please take our words as the sage advise it is...

As stated above - have someone with you who is sober and will be around for the duration - plan on ten or twelve hours. Too much hassle? Then don't do it.

You may die from this - even at the amounts we've suggested here - this is not an exaggeration. And absolutely no alcohol, benzos, downers of any type. In fact, do this sober and don't add anything. If you snort this and decide a half hour later to smoke some rock or snort some blow that will wear off b/f the dope and you may OD well after snorting that tiny amount of dope once the stimulant wears off. I lost a close friend this way and almost my g/f - three times from the dope&coke routine.

I now take Suboxone, 8-mg/day, as prescribed and worry every day what will happen if I need pain relief. Screw with opiates and they will screw you back, x100. I've known only two people out of dozens who could actually "chip" and not become addicted, but nonetheless it affected their lives enormously when our friends began dying from ODs at an increasingly rapid clip.

More than anything - please reconsider. Do you really want to go down this road? Read some more here, look at the Dark Side forum.

I wish you the best.
 
I agree with Mr.Scagnattie in that recently trying H (dry powder snorted) the first time with no tolerance, the match head sized bump as he mentioned is perfect for safe nasal dosing and carefully redosing to desired levels every 40 mins or so if necessary, as per my experience.

Also in my experience as the others have said, 1g is to much. It kept me high and nodding most of the time for about 60 hours straight, no sleep. This resulted in (tested twice with the same effects) getting ill, as in actual sickness, not drug effects making me feel ill, and some bad withdrawals for 4 days after.

Its not worth those side effects, withdrawals and duration of binge being a new or infrequent user. I would prob want to buy 250mg or 0.5g to avoid them. Mostly i don't do it because i cant get less then 1g and there is no stopping with product remaining. Getting 2-3 G will mean you are high for like a week straight and very unhealthy for long after, if your lucky, or you will be dead from OD. AT least for a new user.

Lastly, to add on Alcohol use, besides the danger as already mentioned, even low safe doses will just cloud and destroy the subtle opiate effect. Not worth even one beer even if you don't care about the danger side of things. I wouldnt mix anything with an opiate because its already exactly the best it can be by itself. No combos necessary.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
We're not here to use the search engine for you... that's why it exists, so people can see if their questions have been answered before making an entirely new thread..(and this topic has been covered 1000 times)

Anyway, first of all... if you're getting even decent dope.. 1-3grams is way too much to be buying.. the average dose of even mid-range quality heroin for a novice is a bump about the size of a match head. You don't need all that dope. Nothing but bad can come from that.

Don't drink alcohol on heroin or any opiate, having a full/empty stomach doesn't matter, use caution when re-dosing, and preferably have somebody sober around who can help you in the event something goes wrong.

Also, you should seriously reconsider beginning to mess with heroin at all... the search engine would have been helpful as well to see just how many threads exist about heroin ruining peoples lives.

That being said, It's good to see you seeking out safe practices but.. you really will most likely regret this.

Preaching over.

Good luck.
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Yes yes yes yes and yes.

Seriously don't buy 3 grams! That's way way too much. A lot of people think that you need the same amount of heroin as cocaine but you need way less and a gram of heroin looks like less than a gram of cocaine. Please be careful.
 
blight12 said:
I agree with Mr.Scagnattie in that recently trying H (dry powder snorted) the first time with no tolerance, the match head sized bump as he mentioned is perfect for safe nasal dosing and carefully redosing to desired levels every 40 mins or so if necessary, as per my experience.

Also in my experience as the others have said, 1g is to much. It kept me high and nodding most of the time for about 60 hours straight, no sleep. This resulted in (tested twice with the same effects) getting ill, as in actual sickness, not drug effects making me feel ill, and some bad withdrawals for 4 days after.

Its not worth those side effects, withdrawals and duration of binge being a new or infrequent user. I would prob want to buy 250mg or 0.5g to avoid them. Mostly i don't do it because i cant get less then 1g and there is no stopping with product remaining. Getting 2-3 G will mean you are high for like a week straight and very unhealthy for long after, if your lucky, or you will be dead from OD. AT least for a new user.

Lastly, to add on Alcohol use, besides the danger as already mentioned, even low safe doses will just cloud and destroy the subtle opiate effect. Not worth even one beer even if you don't care about the danger side of things. I wouldnt mix anything with an opiate because its already exactly the best it can be by itself. No combos necessary.
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There is NO way you went through withdrawal after one use. Don't be silly. Also OP please use the search engine this has been covered over and over again.
 
You can check my trip report for the details. I explained it was not what i have researched as proper withdrawals but some other minor form of it or even possibly a hangover type of effect that lasted 4 days and this occurred exactly the same consistently 3 separate times a month or two apart. I might say i got ill or something but the symptoms where unlike anything any illness has manifested before.
 
100mg would be a dose for you thatd get you floored fashure, probably nod a lil here n there n if its flame dope ull def b noddin. this would b a safe if you arent mixing any other drugs. i always like to have a some food in my stomach cause when i dont n do dope i tend to get a lil nausea but not much since when i did do dope it was daily
 
Get ready to puke up everything for the next 8 hours--if you're anything like me. Be careful; heroin takes you up, but it doesn't always let you get off when you want.
 
Yeah bruh please be careful, first of all you're buying more than enough to kill several people if it's any good. More than enough to start a heavy addiction. Heroin is not a toy, it's nothing like coke, it's serious shit. You're playing with you're life. I know you don't want to hear abunch of lecturing not to do it but if you've never done it you should really reconsider. Just remember there's some feelings you can't unlearn and you will crave for the rest of your life. If you're gonna do it start with an extremely small amount, this is something that can kill you. Maybe like an eighth of what you think is way too little. And wait awhile, you can always do more. No alcohol or benzos with it either. Have Somone there preferably with narcan incase you fall out. Good luck and enjoy. Let us know how it goes
 
Following the matchhead sized bumps and 40 minutes between redoses rule should allow proper management and safety. I did this exactly my first time with H having no experience with any other opiate and not knowing what to expect.

Its was rather easy reaching and identifying the preferred and safe level using the above method. You know it when you get there. For me the nod kicks in and there are no longer any thoughts of redosing. Its not fiendish like meth where you find any retarded excuse to redose or like zolpidem where you just eat the shit like candy for no reason at all and cant remember doing it either.

I was rightly a bit fearful, apprehensive and respectful as you should be and that will ensure you dont do stupid things.

I remember every second of usage clearly including the different dreamlands entered via the nod and felt like i was in control all the time. I didnt sense an increase in risky behavior or loss of control like you could with alcohol for example.

Even nodding, the periods inbetween are of pure clarity and awareness. This is obviously one of the reasons this drug has such excellent rec appeal and honestly surprised me since what you hear and see regarding opiate use indicates a far more intoxicating experience with diminished mental capacity. This is not the case.
 
Read at least a couple dozen 'advice' posts from H users...

The only obvious good HR advice is to stay the fuck away from heroin.

Read my post on the subject, in my newbie-heroin thread.
 
I ended up getting 3 grams of a purpleish powder, I drank half a fifth of crown and took a couple bumps. I was so fucked up I puked all over, nodded out at a mc Donald's drive thru, pissed on the hallway floor in this apartment complex, and woke up naked. That's all I remember thanks for the help all I'm glad I have alot of this stuff =D
 
I also have a huge goose egg on my head, idk how it got there but it hurts like hell!!
 
^Glad you followed everyone's advice and decided to take the safe route!

I mean Jesus, what's the point of coming on an HR website and asking people how to safely use heroin only to turn around and do exactly the opposite of what everyone recommends...

Somebody asks this exact same question every other day, and the problem with it is, we feel responsible to give you the best possible advice we can because it could make the difference between life and death....I've been guilty of taking heroin use lightly because I'm naturally just a risk taking, wreckless person in some ways, but luckily I lived long enough to respect heroin before it killed me....

even if you everything right, you could just drop one day and be gone forever, it may sound dramatic, but unfortunately it's true, sounds like you almost died your first time! How would your mom feel? "My son, the the idiot died in a Mcdonalds bathroom from an alcohol and heroin overdose!"...

Not tryin to be a dick but hey!
 
You came on here and asked us how to do it safely and we gave you good advice. Don't take with alcohol, 3 grams is too much. And you went ahead and drank then took it. You could've killed yourself. Sounds like you made a right idiot of yourself too. Congrats.
 
Could be a troll...."Purple" powder?....Is making fake accounts and asking questions on OD and then going back and laughing about it actually funny to somebody with no life? Since this is an anonymous forum website, it seems kind of pointless....sometimes I wonder if this is what goes on....hmmmmm
 
You're a fucking fool jimmy25. What was the point in asking about HR when you're just gonna do the exact opposite.But I think you're bullshittin cuz Ive never seen purple heroin because there is no such thing. If you're not bullshittin, it sounds like you're headed for a good hard introduction to heroin addiction. Have fun. All I can hope is that maybe Somone serious reads this post and takes all the good advice about having respect for the reality of this drug.
 
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