First time cocaine, wow

[yaesutom]

wow, got a tiny bit of coke tonight. i like it! I just got back from a "rave" after a long day, its 5:30 am, i snorted the last little bit. I can see why it can be mentally addicting.
I've been reading up on ADD/ADHD, and since like half of my family supposedly has it, the "docs" said i had it when i was a kid (never went on any meds though) and i've always thought i've had it, maybe i should go and try and get a script for ritalin/adderal/whatever. This coke makes my social anxiety vanish, very talkative, a lot less introverted. Very calm (sober i'm always feeling "jittery" and restless). As for side effects, my heart rate is pretty much normal, i just feel very mentally alert, but mostly normal. Just the urge to get things done (i'm a normally lazy person).
If ritalin is so "similar" to cocaine, is there really many other bad things about it besides it costing so much (war on drugs)? I dont feel like my body is on any kind of stress, i actually feel very relaxed, but feel like talking a lot, i even feel like working on my homework this late at night (well really early sunday morning).
If cocaine was legal, available in a pill form, cheap (prescription or whatever), what would be the downside of taking it every day for concentration? I dont see any bad side effects tonight (maybe tomorrow i will, lol). But if i get ahold of some good coke soon (and cheaply), i could take little before class, and i think i'd be able to actually do the work without my mind wandering/daydreaming.
Hmm, i feel like a normal person for a change, pretty cool

well maybe a little too talkative, since i have no one else to talk to at 5:40 am and i'm typing this message on bluelight.
I know coke is expensive so its not something i'm going to be doing a lot (i will control myself), but its making me think i should try and get some ADHD meds.
So what is the "harm" from doing it maybe just once a week at a party or whatever? Besides the cost?

 

[Brainrape]

There is no harm (besides the inherent) in doing any drugs. There is a possibilty for harm in HOW you do them.
Doing coke once twice a week, not much harm.
Shooting 3 8-balls a day for 2 months solid. A tad bit of harm is probably being done.
Remember, everything the media has led you to believe about cocaine (and drugs in general) is wrong.
With constant habitual use I'm sure slight dopamine related brain activities are temporarily running at less than optimal, along with normal body degredation. But that really requires lots of use, the main problem is of course, psychological addiction, and with the super expensive shit coke circulting American streets, it's usually not a factor (Unless of course, you do modern cocaine the proper way, you IV it)...
Remember, some of our greatest minds (Freud, Poe) where habitually coke users, shit Sigmund Freud was like the fucking cocaine posterboy of his times...
So don't worry till you have mortgated your house and sold yourself at a gay bar to a gang of drag queens for a 20 bag and a rig....when you get to that point, you have a problem.
Btw, if you haven't tried methaphetamine/speed for that ADD/ADHD you will probably like that MUCH more than cocaine.
Essentially ADD/ADHD medications that your friendly doc hands out are essentially, legal froms of methamphetamine, and work much better with ADD/ADHD patients than most medications...
Essentially, if coke helped your medical condition, methamphetamine/speed (or Actual ADD/ADHD medications like Ritilan, Adderall, and Dexedrine) will probably do wonders....
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"Rock and roll adolescents storm into the streets of all nations. They rush into the Louvre and throw acid in the Mona Lisa's face. They open zoo's, insane asslyums, prisons, burst water mains with air hammers, Chop the floor out of passanger plane lavatories, shoot out lighthouses, turn sewers into the water supply, administer injections with bicycle pumps. They shit on the floor of the United Nations and wipe thier ass with the treaties, pacts, alliances."

 

[AbraMontague]

Speaking of greatest minds...

 

[sparklr]

Cocaine is a very short acting stimulant. It wouldn't be a good choice for ADD/ADHD treatment. If taken for that reason, it would most likely just exacerbate the problem.
As it already is, it's very hard to differentiate between an effective dose versus a recreational/euphoric dose for Ritalin, Adderall, Dexedrine, etc. And they are much longer acting.

 

[Whoknows]

A question cause i thinking of doing coke soon, does it leave you feeling all scattered and dumb like pills and speed does?
(i dont know if pills and speed does to everyone but im fucked for a week after i have it)
Is it much easier on your brain?

 

[Deus121]

If you do enough of course it will leave you feeling hungover the next day. Most (I can't think offhand of any that DON'T) simulants do.

 

[Psykosiz]

Whoknows, i know wot you mean - Ez make me feel dumb for upto a week. I havent tried speed.
Coke, for the most part, makes me feel OK the next day but I think the more you do it the worse the comedown gets. Still, I woodnt say im more than maybe a bit irritable the next day.
Oh and for yaesutom, who has found this wonder drug... coke is very, very sly! keeping it recreational requires some willpower and using it long-term, without becommin addicted, is something else. it is twisted as well.. once you start you'll want more, the more you have the more you will do... days seem to go slower without it when your taking breaks for the next session.
its not difficult to fall into using it for classes and wotever but coke wont fuck with you unless you fuck with it, habitual coke users DO develop problems... mainly that they cant really be happy without it, ie. you wont smile when you wake and see the sun shining, etc...

 

[yaesutom]

Well i only bought a small amount that night, and only snorted a little bit a couple times, and i didnt really notice a "high" besides being more awake, focused, more talkative, my heart rate and other stuff was normal. Not sure if i "hit" a "real" recreational dose or not.. I took the little bit i had home, waited til the next day and snorted it up, again i didnt feel euphoric, i felt CALM, and focused. I'm normally a introverted person, i'm easily bored with things, and for the 20-40 minutes it lasted, i felt very calm and very focused on the outside world, very motivated to do things i would usually put off, instead of all the useless thinking i usually do bored sober.
I felt "clear" headed, my usual music and "head noise" that goes on was not as loud. So now i want to go try the "add/adhd" thing with a psyciatrist, and see if i can get on some meds...ritalin or adderal... See if it helps.. Whether i "really" have add or not, i dont really care about so much about a "diagnosis", but if one of these drugs will make me more focused on homework, more sociable, motivated, then that would help me a lot. As for coke, it cost way too much for the little bit i got so its not something i'm going to be doing often.

 

[sparklr]

'kay...
I'm just saying, don't try to use cocaine to alleviate your possible ADD/ADHD.
Everyone, with or without "legitimate" ADD, will benefit from a stimulant, given that the dose is not too high. I mean, it will always bring with it more focus, etc. And most people will interpret that as beneficial.
So, go to your doctor and see what he says. But, also keep in mind that there is no "wonder drug", like a pill one can take to "get better". Especially with stimualants.

 

[Tijo]

Personally I think it was all in your head. Most peoples (I know) first coke experience is very suttle if anything at all. I bet if you tried it a few more times your thoughts would change(as with all drugs). I can't imagine someone doing coke to concentrate. When I do coke all I can concentrate on is when I'm gonna do more.

 

[TDK2FE]

This is in reply to the post earlier that stated that great minds of the past had habitually used cocaine. That statement in istelf is true. The METHOD of use, however, is not completely known by many people.
Frued did use cocaine habitually when he first discovered the drug. He even recommended that his wife use it. However, the way he ingested cocaine was in a pill form, infrequently (but frequently enough to be considered habitual). He did prescribe larger doses to his friend, who eventually developed a state of cocaine induced psychosis, at which point Frued decided to ditch all research and lay off.
Just a little bit of info the next time you use people of the past as references. I think its good to know the circumstances and methods that they used the drugs in question, as they are not always the same as we may use them today.
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[Brainrape]

Ah...
I thought it was inherently understood that for most posts in this forum, specifics like doseage levels and "prefferd" methods of administration are so relative there is generally isn't much benefit in going into any detail with them. (Esp Doseage levels because the liability involved, and to a lesser extent "reaction" to methods of admin because everyone is different, it's too relative to be factual...
And espeically in a post that isn't even a direct informative guide on Cocaine specifics so much as just an opinion on a ceartin drug and is referencing drug use from the last century

The cocaine Freud used and the modern day street level cocaine are pretty much 2 totally different drugs. Most people don't realize the full extent of the mind boggling drop in quality Cocaine has through all it's levels in the drug distribution chain, it's a fucking crime. And in Freud's time, with no War on Drugs making things difficult and cocaine not being taboo in the least, he was getting the highest quality cocaine available most likely. Nothing you could equate to modern street samples of Cocaine...
Oh and btw, Freud wasn't strictly an oral user, he was prone to snorting a tad bit of coke here and there, by tad I mean a small key bump droped on his wrist, it would give him an intensne euphoria that lasted a good while, unlike today where snorting 3 fat rails makes you "relaxed", for all of 10 minutes...
Brainrape
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"Rock and roll adolescents storm into the streets of all nations. They rush into the Louvre and throw acid in the Mona Lisa's face. They open zoo's, insane asslyums, prisons, burst water mains with air hammers, Chop the floor out of passanger plane lavatories, shoot out lighthouses, turn sewers into the water supply, administer injections with bicycle pumps. They shit on the floor of the United Nations and wipe thier ass with the treaties, pacts, alliances."

 

[PhreeX]

Go to a shrink and get some ADHD meds.. cocaine isn't usefull as a tool for self-medication, it's a play toy for parties.. the high is way to short lived and the crash is hellish... it's also not very active when taken orally..
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